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The people at the Nicene Council and the other councils were not prophets. CaptainHammer Send a noteboard - 05/10/2011 04:59:50 AM
They were not being inspired by God as to what the requirements to be a Christian were. The prophets in Old and New Testament times, who received revelation and knowledge from God, never made any statements as to what you had to believe to be Christian. Thus, how can a council of men, who did not receive any revelations from God as to what you have to do and believe to be a Christian or any guidance from a prophet of the Lord, be the ones to make the tenets for being Christian?
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There are Mormon literalists? Seriously? *NM* Legolas - 03/10/2011 03:02:18 PM 681 Views
In fairness, I wonder the same about Christian literalists. *NM* Ghavrel - 03/10/2011 07:57:19 PM 750 Views
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I know they don't have multiple wives anymore, so no misconception there ironclad - 03/10/2011 01:23:50 PM 1221 Views
There are Fundamentalist "Mormons" who do... Danu - 03/10/2011 11:32:56 PM 1114 Views
Don't get me wrong by the way, I've met wonderful Mormons ironclad - 04/10/2011 12:22:03 PM 1201 Views
Question: Why are you such a faggot? *NM* Urza - 03/10/2011 02:23:45 PM 593 Views
Answer: because it's the only way he could return your burning love for him. Nate - 03/10/2011 03:24:23 PM 815 Views
Oh dont be such a fuddy duddy. Urza - 03/10/2011 10:42:06 PM 808 Views
Better a faggot than a fuckwad. Cheers fuckwad! *NM* everynametaken - 04/10/2011 01:27:20 AM 705 Views
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Really? You really just pulled a "takes one to know one"? *NM* Kronin al'Sulc - 04/10/2011 04:19:22 PM 751 Views
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I'll tell you whats embarresing... Urza - 04/10/2011 02:08:02 AM 921 Views
That is hilarious. Nate - 04/10/2011 03:10:50 AM 819 Views
Goodness.. Urza - 04/10/2011 03:20:30 AM 763 Views
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You know, my mother had a saying. Urza - 04/10/2011 03:39:32 AM 821 Views
I think it's safe to say ... Nate - 04/10/2011 04:09:17 AM 729 Views
I'm not sure which would be sadder... Legolas - 04/10/2011 11:32:55 AM 858 Views
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Re: You flatter me. *NM* Gaps - 04/10/2011 01:31:01 PM 726 Views
OK, you need to delete the "Re:" You're using it incorrectly beetnemesis - 04/10/2011 01:55:53 PM 737 Views
"Re" doesn't have to mean "reply", it can also mean "regarding". Legolas - 04/10/2011 02:01:31 PM 746 Views
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you are still using it incorrectly. *NM* LadyLorraine - 04/10/2011 02:09:48 PM 713 Views
He's doing it on purpose though. Nate - 04/10/2011 03:31:39 PM 847 Views
Re: Yeah, it's just a shtick... Gaps - 04/10/2011 03:47:17 PM 747 Views
Those were the good old days. Nate - 04/10/2011 04:02:33 PM 756 Views
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I agree, it's driving me nuts *NM* ironclad - 04/10/2011 02:36:45 PM 638 Views
That's not quite right, actually. Nate - 04/10/2011 03:25:54 PM 673 Views
Disagree. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 04/10/2011 10:04:09 PM 691 Views
Considering that "CaptainHammer" is LDS, I'd rather doubt he's gay. Great Lord of Chaos - 04/10/2011 02:32:56 AM 707 Views
Re: Considering that "CaptainHammer" is LDS, I'd rather doubt he's gay. Urza - 04/10/2011 02:37:41 AM 731 Views
Heh. Oh, Ryan. Kronin al'Sulc - 04/10/2011 04:36:43 PM 852 Views
*sigh* to all of you above.... LadyLorraine - 04/10/2011 03:06:21 AM 760 Views
I thought that was "Do not talk about /b/"? *NM* Great Lord of Chaos - 04/10/2011 03:12:52 AM 749 Views
i don't know, but if THAT is the first rule... LadyLorraine - 04/10/2011 03:41:20 AM 708 Views
Please explain why you think we should consider you Christians. Tom - 03/10/2011 04:33:06 PM 1382 Views
you know, that does make me wonder though LadyLorraine - 03/10/2011 04:58:21 PM 1258 Views
We're not as immovable as we are sometimes portrayed. Dannymac - 03/10/2011 05:27:17 PM 1231 Views
"Even Christ didn't do that"? I can't agree. Legolas - 03/10/2011 09:00:34 PM 1245 Views
I conceded your last point. Dannymac - 03/10/2011 10:14:28 PM 1102 Views
Point of Anal Retentive Dissent: Joel - 04/10/2011 03:54:00 PM 1164 Views
That concept is alien to the Christian theological understanding, however. Tom - 03/10/2011 10:18:55 PM 1251 Views
I understand what both you and Danny are saying LadyLorraine - 04/10/2011 12:19:57 AM 1195 Views
Oh, that's very simple Tom - 04/10/2011 04:02:24 AM 1246 Views
I honestly don't know what it would take. Dannymac - 04/10/2011 07:41:55 AM 1189 Views
thank you, both of you LadyLorraine - 04/10/2011 01:46:05 PM 1186 Views
I love the Nicene Creed. It is such an excellent encapsulation. Rebekah - 03/10/2011 06:07:53 PM 1284 Views
Agreed. Joel - 04/10/2011 04:44:49 PM 1148 Views
The absolute best part about your post (plus the best thing about Mo's/LDS's) Jeordam - 03/10/2011 09:02:17 PM 1218 Views
Glad you enjoyed it Tom - 03/10/2011 10:10:39 PM 1322 Views
Though they can cause interesting changes in patterns. Dannymac - 03/10/2011 10:16:55 PM 1278 Views
We believe that Jesus Christ is the Savior of all mankind, and the only way back to God. Gher - 04/10/2011 01:29:30 AM 1315 Views
If you think the Book of Mormon was well-written, there is really little left to discuss. Tom - 04/10/2011 03:57:08 AM 1484 Views
I never said well-written, I said complex. Gher - 04/10/2011 07:04:24 AM 1357 Views
Ignore facts all you want to. Tom - 05/10/2011 01:07:35 AM 1250 Views
Re: If you think the Book of Mormon was well-written, there is really little left to discuss. CaptainHammer - 04/10/2011 07:24:27 AM 1464 Views
Woah nelly. Ghavrel - 04/10/2011 10:04:33 AM 1264 Views
I have to "Wow" as well... racist much? LadyLorraine - 04/10/2011 01:52:48 PM 1183 Views
Re: I have to "Wow" as well... racist much? CaptainHammer - 04/10/2011 04:42:47 PM 1274 Views
oh well that makes it all better... LadyLorraine - 04/10/2011 04:54:14 PM 1277 Views
Exactly ironclad - 04/10/2011 06:00:54 PM 1198 Views
Was the twin banging and the gay wedding the same event? Joel - 04/10/2011 06:36:03 PM 1269 Views
Yikes. Even for religion, that's more than a little crazy. Nate - 04/10/2011 03:47:56 PM 1255 Views
I don't think there's much of a difference in crazy as opposed to other more mainstream religions. Vivien - 04/10/2011 07:08:06 PM 1222 Views
A difference exists if only in continued unabashed affirmation of a rather distasteful doctrine. Joel - 04/10/2011 11:06:51 PM 1216 Views
Then why can't women be priests? Or enter the altar? The curse on Eve is very much in place. *NM* Aeryn - 05/10/2011 12:27:04 AM 656 Views
OK, within the Mormon context I can see that point. Joel - 05/10/2011 12:33:52 AM 1164 Views
They can in quite a few denominations. *NM* Ghavrel - 05/10/2011 06:12:35 AM 689 Views
Whoops! You meant in LDS specifically. My mistake. *NM* Ghavrel - 05/10/2011 06:14:05 AM 682 Views
Right now I am not making an absolute statement but a relative one. Vivien - 05/10/2011 08:37:50 PM 1031 Views
Yes, that is kind of the problem. Joel - 06/10/2011 12:13:27 AM 1168 Views
Oh, you didn't know? Joe Smith said black people are cursed for following Satan. Tom - 05/10/2011 01:10:35 AM 1226 Views
I guess this is a variation on Hams punishment; Ghav, at least should know better than to be shocked Joel - 04/10/2011 04:13:59 PM 1157 Views
it's not that we're surprised because it's "novel" LadyLorraine - 04/10/2011 04:19:16 PM 1199 Views
It is not NECESSARILY racist. Joel - 04/10/2011 04:39:33 PM 1237 Views
Sure, except ... Nate - 04/10/2011 04:50:53 PM 1252 Views
Well, the funny thing is Christian doctrine presupposes everyone, along with their ancestors... Joel - 04/10/2011 06:31:13 PM 1153 Views
Yeah, circular logic is fun, isn't it? Tom - 05/10/2011 01:09:25 AM 1178 Views
It it is nigh impossible to be a "non-Nicene Christian." Joel - 04/10/2011 03:12:06 PM 1281 Views
I think we've had this discussion before. Gher - 06/10/2011 05:54:39 PM 1265 Views
Arianism is a bad comparison for arguing LDS=Christian. Joel - 06/10/2011 11:45:36 PM 1154 Views
Wikipedia confirms what I already thought: you're off base with the monophysitism. Legolas - 07/10/2011 12:06:40 AM 1480 Views
I had not realized it was that late, but used it only as an example of multitudinous controversies. Joel - 07/10/2011 01:03:56 AM 1601 Views
Monophysites, miaphysites, monothelites, etc. certainly accept the consubstantiality of God/Christ Larry - 07/10/2011 11:58:05 AM 1186 Views
Virtually everyone has a more sound Christology than Mormons. Tom - 07/10/2011 06:45:45 PM 1212 Views
Your ideas intrigue me and I would like to subscribe to your newsletter. Joel - 08/10/2011 05:30:38 PM 1221 Views
I can see that with the Monothelites (can see their appeal, in fact,) but not Monophysites. Joel - 07/10/2011 09:43:27 PM 1151 Views
Tempting as it is to prove Joel wrong (since he so frequently is), I need to take issue with this. Tom - 07/10/2011 06:59:13 PM 1231 Views
I was just saying there were competing views. Gher - 07/10/2011 07:49:26 PM 1616 Views
Oh, there were definitely competing views, just not competing Christian views. Joel - 07/10/2011 09:26:22 PM 1131 Views
That sounds really nice. Vivien - 04/10/2011 06:38:29 PM 1232 Views
Why wait though? Joel - 05/10/2011 12:12:21 AM 1390 Views
So that Vivien can avoid reading and thinking about the stuff that you just wrote. *NM* Aeryn - 05/10/2011 12:28:23 AM 626 Views
Ack, not reading and thinking111 Joel - 05/10/2011 12:36:11 AM 1192 Views
I really want an answer from a mormon. Vivien - 05/10/2011 08:48:49 PM 1236 Views
Good luck with that; just because I can see no explanation save that I offered does not preclude one Joel - 06/10/2011 07:03:50 AM 1117 Views
Yeah, that's what I thought. Gher - 06/10/2011 05:43:57 PM 1160 Views
I'm satisfied by that explanation. Vivien - 06/10/2011 08:51:15 PM 1396 Views
Re: I'm satisfied by that explanation. Gher - 07/10/2011 07:45:29 PM 1209 Views
Oh no you idn't... *waves finger and weaves head* everynametaken - 04/10/2011 03:53:07 AM 1029 Views
....i don't know what you look like LadyLorraine - 04/10/2011 03:54:56 AM 1153 Views
Shoot, my Mick Jagger strut is way better than my angry hispanic girl head/finger bob and weave. *NM* everynametaken - 05/10/2011 04:58:53 AM 752 Views
Took the words right out of my mouth, repeatedly. Joel - 04/10/2011 12:49:13 PM 1384 Views
Off-Topic Larry - 05/10/2011 01:14:16 AM 1153 Views
Hmm Tom - 05/10/2011 02:03:13 AM 1340 Views
True Larry - 05/10/2011 02:13:00 AM 1140 Views
I think of Protestantism in terms similar to a Xerox copy. Tom - 05/10/2011 04:57:42 AM 1249 Views
Maybe Xeroxes of abridged texts and dumbed down theology Larry - 06/10/2011 02:26:58 AM 1331 Views
I like that analogy - an echo chamber! *NM* Tom - 08/10/2011 10:44:04 PM 681 Views
Re: Off-Topic CaptainHammer - 05/10/2011 02:56:50 AM 1366 Views
Uhh... Larry - 05/10/2011 03:08:49 AM 1124 Views
The people at the Nicene Council and the other councils were not prophets. CaptainHammer - 05/10/2011 04:59:50 AM 1273 Views
And you know that because... why, again? Joel - 05/10/2011 07:13:53 AM 1228 Views
Tough Crowd. Dannymac - 03/10/2011 04:44:31 PM 1310 Views
No questions. Have a nice day. TaskmasterJack - 03/10/2011 11:40:58 PM 1167 Views
Why don't they have anything approaching a formal theology? *NM* Dan - 04/10/2011 03:58:16 AM 750 Views
Re: Why don't they have anything approaching a formal theology? CaptainHammer - 04/10/2011 05:23:12 PM 1285 Views
Danny is right, it is a pretty tough crowd, but better tough than weak and whitewashed. everynametaken - 04/10/2011 04:02:16 AM 1202 Views
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