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You like Solzhenitsyn but not other Russian writers? Tom Send a noteboard - 27/02/2011 02:43:46 PM
You're entitled to your opinion, certainly, but that is one of the oddest things I've heard in a long time. Russians usually don't like Solzhenitsyn because of his style, which is heavy and often bad (to my mind). I have found that TV miniseries of his books that follow dialogue exactly have been the best format for taking in his ideas, which are often very interesting, because they strip away the style that I don't like.

Don't forget that, for foreign books, a translation can make or break a book. My opinion is that translation is a necessary evil at best, and so if I can avoid translations, I will. I recently read (and reviewed on the Books board) Madame Bovary and Siddhartha in their original languages, two books which suffer from accusations of bad translations, and with Bovary at least I could see why it might be difficult to translate without losing a lot.

If you're going to read a book, go on amazon and root around the comments about the different translations for at least five minutes and you'll see which translations work the best.

Having said that, have you read Lermontov's Hero of Our Time? Based on your choices, I think you would like it. Turgenev's Fathers and Sons (recently discussed on the Books board) is another good one to try. I do not think you will enjoy Dostoevsky. Pushkin's Eugene Onegin is a book that I would recommend due to its content - it's very good - but it's a story in poem form and poetry is extremely hard to translate. Pushkin's Captain's Daughter is a good prose work. In all cases that I've recommended, the most background you'd need would be about one or two quick wikipedia article reads.
Political correctness is the pettiest form of casuistry.

ἡ δὲ κἀκ τριῶν τρυπημάτων ἐργαζομένη ἐνεκάλει τῇ φύσει, δυσφορουμένη, ὅτι δὴ μὴ καὶ τοὺς τιτθοὺς αὐτῇ εὐρύτερον ἢ νῦν εἰσι τρυπώη, ὅπως καὶ ἄλλην ἐνταῦθα μίξιν ἐπιτεχνᾶσθαι δυνατὴ εἴη. – Procopius

Ummaka qinnassa nīk!

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Well Said! - 22/02/2011 02:42:22 PM 1641 Views
I can take a shot at that, since nobody else seems willing to. - 22/02/2011 07:29:20 AM 1986 Views
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Re: Can someone explain to me how Jordan is not a particularly good writer? - 22/02/2011 06:27:11 PM 2443 Views
Brain overload! This is really well thought out. - 23/02/2011 10:22:37 PM 1583 Views
thank you for the insight into the outside view lol - 24/02/2011 04:34:57 PM 1557 Views
I think DomA answered the question best, but the "do you like it" argument is weak. - 22/02/2011 10:32:51 PM 1853 Views
Re: I think DomA answered the question best, but the "do you like it" argument is weak. - 22/02/2011 11:16:24 PM 1750 Views
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There are nine, actually... - 23/02/2011 12:04:55 AM 1704 Views
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Re: I hope I am misunderstanding you. - 24/02/2011 10:41:09 AM 1521 Views
If the core of the story is all that matters, why read a book - 24/02/2011 10:32:01 PM 1466 Views
Re: If the core of the story is all that matters, why read a book - 24/02/2011 11:23:42 PM 1445 Views
So wait, style is good? - 25/02/2011 12:32:07 AM 1738 Views
Re: So wait, style is good? - 25/02/2011 08:53:55 AM 1354 Views
I'm not trolling - 25/02/2011 11:57:18 PM 1373 Views
That depends... - 23/02/2011 03:00:35 AM 1651 Views
the "do you like it" is the most important criterion - 23/02/2011 10:45:17 PM 1488 Views
Re: the "do you like it" is the most important criterion - 24/02/2011 01:53:59 AM 1457 Views
Thumbs up - IMHO, all discussion can end here - 28/02/2011 05:45:34 PM 1589 Views
Not for quality of writing. - 24/02/2011 05:17:52 PM 1455 Views
Those who can do, the rest are critics. *NM* - 24/02/2011 07:55:50 PM 948 Views
I object, sir! People don't read WoT for the way it's told? - 24/02/2011 12:58:58 AM 1516 Views
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I still don't get it. - 24/02/2011 08:27:50 AM 1367 Views
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I don't mind that you ask, but I'm not going to engage in a defense of literature. - 24/02/2011 05:35:27 PM 1368 Views
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I'm sure you have a wonderful job awaiting in fast food service. - 25/02/2011 01:57:15 AM 1506 Views
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Jack @$$ snobbery at its best. WOW *NM* - 28/02/2011 05:48:43 PM 915 Views
... - 25/02/2011 01:07:22 AM 1342 Views
Maybe you should have used better prose? - 25/02/2011 01:23:17 AM 1246 Views
It is not a serious question. - 25/02/2011 01:53:59 AM 1480 Views
How so? - 25/02/2011 02:59:05 AM 1545 Views
I have every right to use that tone. - 25/02/2011 03:08:14 PM 1422 Views
Is that so? - 25/02/2011 05:58:31 AM 1614 Views
I'm not fixated with Jordan. - 25/02/2011 03:13:56 PM 1456 Views
Then why do you keep trying to qualify the passage in relation to him? - 25/02/2011 06:29:31 PM 1495 Views
You're conflating two things. - 25/02/2011 07:32:59 PM 1585 Views
All right, now we're getting somewhere. - 26/02/2011 12:40:57 AM 1455 Views
you raise very good questions... *NM* - 26/02/2011 09:21:13 AM 871 Views
Okay, here you go. I am giving you the benefit of the doubt as to your sincerity. - 26/02/2011 03:20:44 PM 1297 Views
Thank you, and I agree with all your explanations. *NM* - 26/02/2011 07:28:09 PM 842 Views
Glad to hear that. - 27/02/2011 03:42:33 AM 1368 Views
No problem, these things happen on the internet. *NM* - 27/02/2011 04:36:57 AM 873 Views
No, it is a serious question, just one that can never be seriously answered. - 25/02/2011 03:28:48 PM 1488 Views
Your opinion isn't as valid as anyone else's if that's your opinion. - 25/02/2011 04:44:57 PM 1594 Views
Jack @$$ snobbery at its best. WOW *NM* - 28/02/2011 05:51:48 PM 787 Views
double post. oh my! *NM* - 28/02/2011 05:52:17 PM 812 Views
Just makes you right twice *NM* - 28/02/2011 09:42:19 PM 933 Views
Re: ... - 25/02/2011 08:59:37 AM 1420 Views
And part 2, on the analysis of writing. - 24/02/2011 01:16:20 AM 1498 Views
Florid desciption is usually not a good thing. - 24/02/2011 05:30:30 PM 1382 Views
Re: I find this whole thing elitist and more than a bit silly - 23/02/2011 06:45:05 AM 1645 Views
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Re: Why do you think mind-expanding literature is restricted to the classics? - 23/02/2011 09:25:10 AM 1528 Views
Of course people read for pleasure. - 23/02/2011 09:04:24 PM 1375 Views
Ok... - 24/02/2011 08:59:27 AM 1377 Views
"Yeah well, that's, like, just your opinion, man." Good argument. - 24/02/2011 03:43:24 PM 1487 Views
*NM* - 24/02/2011 05:37:02 PM 841 Views
I find your above average tastes and intelligence uninspiring. - 24/02/2011 08:42:03 PM 1297 Views
I'm curious to hear who Tom and DomA consider a "very good writer"? - 24/02/2011 05:49:13 PM 1493 Views
Among living writers? - 24/02/2011 08:16:08 PM 1544 Views
No Rushdie? - 24/02/2011 09:22:46 PM 1353 Views
I was considering mentioning Rushdie. - 24/02/2011 09:32:20 PM 1346 Views
My list would be similar... - 26/02/2011 07:24:11 AM 1651 Views
That was a very good list. - 26/02/2011 03:07:31 PM 1567 Views
Re: That was a very good list. - 27/02/2011 04:51:43 AM 1556 Views
Once I finish Hugo I'm probably going to read Druon. - 27/02/2011 02:30:03 PM 1420 Views
Oh, and another question - 27/02/2011 05:28:47 PM 1228 Views
Re: Oh, and another question - 01/03/2011 03:42:02 AM 1504 Views
One final question, if you'll indulge me... - 01/03/2011 06:43:23 PM 1287 Views
Well, until I have time to return to your previous post but... - 01/03/2011 07:45:13 PM 1556 Views
I think the two of you have taken too narrow a meaning of 'great' - 27/02/2011 11:14:30 AM 1675 Views
You like Solzhenitsyn but not other Russian writers? - 27/02/2011 02:43:46 PM 1492 Views
Re: You like Solzhenitsyn but not other Russian writers? - 02/03/2011 11:47:19 PM 1617 Views
Re: I think the two of you have taken too narrow a meaning of 'great' - 28/02/2011 11:51:49 PM 1571 Views
Re: I think the two of you have taken too narrow a meaning of 'great' - 03/03/2011 12:01:30 AM 1572 Views
Link to DomA Post from up above: - 03/03/2011 12:20:11 AM 1688 Views
He's a great storyteller, but his prose is somewhat uninspiring. *NM* - 27/02/2011 07:28:00 PM 955 Views

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