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Oh, and another question Tom Send a noteboard - 27/02/2011 05:28:47 PM
Why is it odd to think of the Pléiade editions as hardcovers? They're listed as relié and certainly have nice leather covers. I wish the paper were thicker and the books bigger, but they are still very nice books.

And for the record, it still bothers me that the Germans are able to produce lots and lots of lovely, inexpensive hardcovers but for French books you either have cheap books or Pléiade and nothing in between (with a few rare exceptions).

If you ever come across a nice hardcover edition of Stendhal's Chartreuse de Parme or Hugo's Quatrevingt-treize, please let me know.

Political correctness is the pettiest form of casuistry.

ἡ δὲ κἀκ τριῶν τρυπημάτων ἐργαζομένη ἐνεκάλει τῇ φύσει, δυσφορουμένη, ὅτι δὴ μὴ καὶ τοὺς τιτθοὺς αὐτῇ εὐρύτερον ἢ νῦν εἰσι τρυπώη, ὅπως καὶ ἄλλην ἐνταῦθα μίξιν ἐπιτεχνᾶσθαι δυνατὴ εἴη. – Procopius

Ummaka qinnassa nīk!

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Can someone explain to me how Jordan is not a particularly good writer? newyorkersedai - 21/02/2011 05:41:31 PM 3554 Views
I personally see it as more of RJ being a fantastic story teller, but not a well structured writer. darius_sedai - 21/02/2011 06:44:21 PM 1983 Views
Re: I personally see it as more of RJ being a fantastic story teller, but not a well structured Lo'oris - 22/02/2011 10:59:25 PM 1652 Views
What do you think about the Southern Gothic authors? Ghavrel - 23/02/2011 08:08:26 AM 1484 Views
Re: What do you think about the Southern Gothic authors? Lo'oris - 23/02/2011 10:51:57 AM 1558 Views
Oh, it really depends. Ghavrel - 23/02/2011 05:39:07 PM 1348 Views
thanks, I'll have a look *NM* Lo'oris - 23/02/2011 05:40:50 PM 1025 Views
For the same reason that most people think they have above average intelligence. RabidWombat - 21/02/2011 11:13:34 PM 1970 Views
Thank you. Nargs - 21/02/2011 11:43:08 PM 1675 Views
Re: For the same reason that most people think they have above average intelligence. *NM* Gerbeaud - 22/02/2011 02:39:20 PM 1134 Views
Re: For the same reason that most people think they have above average intelligence. Gerbeaud - 22/02/2011 02:41:37 PM 1485 Views
Well Said! Evil_Monkey - 22/02/2011 02:42:22 PM 1751 Views
That's possibly the best explanation of literary criticism I've ever seen. The Count - 23/02/2011 02:47:12 AM 1531 Views
I can take a shot at that, since nobody else seems willing to. Ghavrel - 22/02/2011 07:29:20 AM 2053 Views
Do you enjoy reading Robert Jordan's ... Nargs - 22/02/2011 04:31:28 PM 1760 Views
Not particularly. Ghavrel - 22/02/2011 10:22:00 PM 1911 Views
Agreed. Tom - 22/02/2011 10:37:08 PM 1512 Views
Re: I can take a shot at that, since nobody else seems willing to. Lo'oris - 22/02/2011 11:23:38 PM 1683 Views
That has very little to do with anything unless you can provide a real-world analogy to a channeler. Ghavrel - 22/02/2011 11:30:52 PM 1542 Views
Re: That has very little to do with anything unless you can provide a real-world analogy to a Lo'oris - 23/02/2011 12:02:24 AM 1557 Views
As far as I'm concerned, the only way to gauge whether an author is good or not is ... Velveti - 22/02/2011 03:58:17 PM 1595 Views
Amen *NM* Nargs - 22/02/2011 04:32:50 PM 939 Views
Re: Can someone explain to me how Jordan is not a particularly good writer? DomA - 22/02/2011 06:27:11 PM 2611 Views
Brain overload! This is really well thought out. RabidWombat - 23/02/2011 10:22:37 PM 1694 Views
thank you for the insight into the outside view lol Onarishma - 24/02/2011 04:34:57 PM 1620 Views
I think it has more to do with limitations imposed by how the story was organized and edited. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 22/02/2011 07:50:18 PM 1882 Views
That's interesting, and I have a weird agree/disagree here; also, that Adam Roberts sucks newyorkersedai - 23/02/2011 02:15:12 AM 1652 Views
Re: That's interesting, and I have a weird agree/disagree here; also, that Adam Roberts sucks Lo'oris - 23/02/2011 11:02:14 AM 1598 Views
adam roberts reviews uglycat - 23/02/2011 03:53:49 AM 1753 Views
And I suspect those who prefer the BS books are those who largely read WoT for the story. *NM* Ghavrel - 23/02/2011 08:06:16 AM 997 Views
Oh GAWD!... not another pointer to Robert Adam's incoherant muckraking HyogaRott - 24/02/2011 07:47:35 PM 1494 Views
I think DomA answered the question best, but the "do you like it" argument is weak. Tom - 22/02/2011 10:32:51 PM 1987 Views
Re: I think DomA answered the question best, but the "do you like it" argument is weak. Lo'oris - 22/02/2011 11:16:24 PM 1836 Views
The Necronomicon isn't actually a book, you know. *NM* Ghavrel - 22/02/2011 11:28:29 PM 926 Views
There are nine, actually... Lo'oris - 23/02/2011 12:04:55 AM 1781 Views
Lovecraft's Necronomicon was fictitious. If you want to count fanfiction, fine. *NM* Ghavrel - 23/02/2011 12:38:07 AM 994 Views
Based on how poorly worded that response was, I'm not sure what to think of it. *NM* Tom - 23/02/2011 12:13:00 AM 1001 Views
I hope I am misunderstanding you. Stephen - 23/02/2011 10:57:47 PM 1426 Views
Re: I hope I am misunderstanding you. Lo'oris - 24/02/2011 10:41:09 AM 1580 Views
If the core of the story is all that matters, why read a book Stephen - 24/02/2011 10:32:01 PM 1528 Views
Re: If the core of the story is all that matters, why read a book Lo'oris - 24/02/2011 11:23:42 PM 1569 Views
So wait, style is good? Stephen - 25/02/2011 12:32:07 AM 1811 Views
Re: So wait, style is good? Lo'oris - 25/02/2011 08:53:55 AM 1410 Views
I'm not trolling Stephen - 25/02/2011 11:57:18 PM 1439 Views
That depends... DomA - 23/02/2011 03:00:35 AM 1711 Views
I didn't say aesthetics was the primary criterion. I named three criteria. Tom - 23/02/2011 05:39:03 AM 1589 Views
the "do you like it" is the most important criterion RabidWombat - 23/02/2011 10:45:17 PM 1546 Views
Re: the "do you like it" is the most important criterion DomA - 24/02/2011 01:53:59 AM 1518 Views
Thumbs up - IMHO, all discussion can end here Nargs - 28/02/2011 05:45:34 PM 1652 Views
Not for quality of writing. Tom - 24/02/2011 05:17:52 PM 1520 Views
Those who can do, the rest are critics. *NM* HyogaRott - 24/02/2011 07:55:50 PM 1003 Views
I object, sir! People don't read WoT for the way it's told? newyorkersedai - 24/02/2011 12:58:58 AM 1584 Views
If you don't mind me asking... Fanatic-Templar - 24/02/2011 01:05:12 AM 1526 Views
Re: If you don't mind me asking... DomA - 24/02/2011 02:19:17 AM 1453 Views
I still don't get it. Fanatic-Templar - 24/02/2011 08:27:50 AM 1455 Views
Re: If you don't mind me asking... Lo'oris - 24/02/2011 11:29:14 PM 1497 Views
I don't mind that you ask, but I'm not going to engage in a defense of literature. Tom - 24/02/2011 05:35:27 PM 1458 Views
Re: I don't mind that you ask, but I'm not going to engage in a defense of literature. Lo'oris - 24/02/2011 11:26:55 PM 1504 Views
I'm sure you have a wonderful job awaiting in fast food service. Tom - 25/02/2011 01:57:15 AM 1571 Views
Re: I'm sure you have a wonderful job awaiting in fast food service. Lo'oris - 25/02/2011 08:56:06 AM 1518 Views
Jack @$$ snobbery at its best. WOW *NM* Nargs - 28/02/2011 05:48:43 PM 948 Views
... Fanatic-Templar - 25/02/2011 01:07:22 AM 1417 Views
Maybe you should have used better prose? fionwe1987 - 25/02/2011 01:23:17 AM 1308 Views
It is not a serious question. Tom - 25/02/2011 01:53:59 AM 1603 Views
How so? fionwe1987 - 25/02/2011 02:59:05 AM 1628 Views
I have every right to use that tone. Tom - 25/02/2011 03:08:14 PM 1485 Views
Is that so? Fanatic-Templar - 25/02/2011 05:58:31 AM 1769 Views
I'm not fixated with Jordan. Tom - 25/02/2011 03:13:56 PM 1525 Views
Then why do you keep trying to qualify the passage in relation to him? Fanatic-Templar - 25/02/2011 06:29:31 PM 1556 Views
You're conflating two things. Tom - 25/02/2011 07:32:59 PM 1709 Views
All right, now we're getting somewhere. Fanatic-Templar - 26/02/2011 12:40:57 AM 1560 Views
you raise very good questions... *NM* Nargs - 26/02/2011 09:21:13 AM 935 Views
Okay, here you go. I am giving you the benefit of the doubt as to your sincerity. Tom - 26/02/2011 03:20:44 PM 1385 Views
Thank you, and I agree with all your explanations. *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 26/02/2011 07:28:09 PM 876 Views
Glad to hear that. Tom - 27/02/2011 03:42:33 AM 1460 Views
No problem, these things happen on the internet. *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 27/02/2011 04:36:57 AM 909 Views
No, it is a serious question, just one that can never be seriously answered. HyogaRott - 25/02/2011 03:28:48 PM 1613 Views
Your opinion isn't as valid as anyone else's if that's your opinion. Tom - 25/02/2011 04:44:57 PM 1699 Views
Re: Your opinion isn't as valid as anyone else's if that's your opinion. HyogaRott - 25/02/2011 06:05:18 PM 1994 Views
I'm not wasting my time proving something to an internet moron and troll like you. Tom - 25/02/2011 07:36:19 PM 1425 Views
Ah yes, the wonderful "dissmiss the person who disagrees with me by insulting him tactic" HyogaRott - 28/02/2011 02:30:35 PM 1406 Views
Re: Your opinion isn't as valid as anyone else's if that's your opinion. Lo'oris - 26/02/2011 11:06:26 AM 1391 Views
Jack @$$ snobbery at its best. WOW *NM* Nargs - 28/02/2011 05:51:48 PM 851 Views
double post. oh my! *NM* Nargs - 28/02/2011 05:52:17 PM 876 Views
Just makes you right twice *NM* HyogaRott - 28/02/2011 09:42:19 PM 999 Views
Re: ... Lo'oris - 25/02/2011 08:59:37 AM 1477 Views
And part 2, on the analysis of writing. newyorkersedai - 24/02/2011 01:16:20 AM 1590 Views
Florid desciption is usually not a good thing. Tom - 24/02/2011 05:30:30 PM 1442 Views
Re: I find this whole thing elitist and more than a bit silly GarethBryne - 23/02/2011 06:45:05 AM 1774 Views
Why do you think mind-expanding literature is restricted to the classics? Ghavrel - 23/02/2011 08:03:59 AM 1416 Views
Re: Why do you think mind-expanding literature is restricted to the classics? GarethBryne - 23/02/2011 09:25:10 AM 1584 Views
Of course people read for pleasure. Ghavrel - 23/02/2011 09:04:24 PM 1467 Views
Ok... Nargs - 24/02/2011 08:59:27 AM 1467 Views
"Yeah well, that's, like, just your opinion, man." Good argument. Ghavrel - 24/02/2011 03:43:24 PM 1587 Views
*NM* Tom - 24/02/2011 05:37:02 PM 925 Views
I find your above average tastes and intelligence uninspiring. Nargs - 24/02/2011 08:42:03 PM 1358 Views
I'm curious to hear who Tom and DomA consider a "very good writer"? VTHokie - 24/02/2011 05:49:13 PM 1580 Views
Among living writers? Tom - 24/02/2011 08:16:08 PM 1650 Views
No Rushdie? fionwe1987 - 24/02/2011 09:22:46 PM 1420 Views
I was considering mentioning Rushdie. Tom - 24/02/2011 09:32:20 PM 1404 Views
My list would be similar... DomA - 26/02/2011 07:24:11 AM 1746 Views
That was a very good list. Tom - 26/02/2011 03:07:31 PM 1680 Views
Re: That was a very good list. DomA - 27/02/2011 04:51:43 AM 1647 Views
Once I finish Hugo I'm probably going to read Druon. Tom - 27/02/2011 02:30:03 PM 1544 Views
Oh, and another question Tom - 27/02/2011 05:28:47 PM 1291 Views
Re: Oh, and another question DomA - 01/03/2011 03:42:02 AM 1594 Views
One final question, if you'll indulge me... Tom - 01/03/2011 06:43:23 PM 1364 Views
Well, until I have time to return to your previous post but... DomA - 01/03/2011 07:45:13 PM 1665 Views
I think the two of you have taken too narrow a meaning of 'great' Iain83 - 27/02/2011 11:14:30 AM 1741 Views
You like Solzhenitsyn but not other Russian writers? Tom - 27/02/2011 02:43:46 PM 1577 Views
Re: You like Solzhenitsyn but not other Russian writers? Iain83 - 02/03/2011 11:47:19 PM 1715 Views
Re: I think the two of you have taken too narrow a meaning of 'great' DomA - 28/02/2011 11:51:49 PM 1653 Views
Re: I think the two of you have taken too narrow a meaning of 'great' Iain83 - 03/03/2011 12:01:30 AM 1628 Views
Link to DomA Post from up above: Nargs - 03/03/2011 12:20:11 AM 1769 Views
Re: I think the two of you have taken too narrow a meaning of 'great' DomA - 03/03/2011 02:17:06 PM 1563 Views
He's a great storyteller, but his prose is somewhat uninspiring. *NM* Marshall - 27/02/2011 07:28:00 PM 1018 Views
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