With Cadsuane mid-to-high 30s, Eg/Avi/El at 40, Nynaeve at 65, etc. Androl, meanwhile, is probably around 4 or 5. I see him as similar to Morgase, only a little more powerful.
I would agree with this.
Egwene said that she would need to link with Romanda and Lelaine to be able to challenge one of the Forsaken, and she's directly been exposed to Lanfear's strength. It seems that in a circle of three, Egwene and those two women equal approximately Lanfear's strength. This is similar to a mixed circle of three equaling Demandred's power, and also similar to Moiraine's statement that Egwene and Aviendha together would equal a Forsaken in strength. The only logical ratios are Moiraine/Romanda/Lelaine on 25 and Egwene/Flinn on 50.
There is no way in hell Moiraine is 60% as strong as Lanfear. If Rand can match any three women who are not Forsaken strength then all of those women must be below 50 in power. Kiruna believes that six Aes Sedai would not be able to take Rand and she backs this up with evidence that previous False Dragons of great power could not be overwhelmed and were often killed or stilled if only six went for them. You'd have to be dimwitted to think that six women have a combined strength of approximately 300 and cannot overwhelm men of a third of that strength. Its much more likely that six women have similar strength to one high powered male and can barely match him. Five women can hardly hold a shield on Logain - imagine actually matching his channeling power.
Moiraine's strength is 30 at best, especially because Aviendha tells Egwene that she is more powerful than Amys and Melaine combined, and both are women with significant strength. What is Egwene's strength... 100?
Androl's strength is probably 5 (he's more like Sorilea and can channel fully, unlike Morgase who's not really a channeler with her negligible weakness). If he links with someone whose strength is 24 he will be exposed to many magnitudes of his own natural strength. It substantiates little regarding Pevara's strength and considering she's close to Moiraine in strength, its likely she's stronger than most Asha'man.
Most men and women lie between 10 and 20 in strength. Higher values can't be substantiated by the majority of the quotes in the series.
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This message last edited by Sidious on 25/10/2012 at 08:38:29 PM
Ch2 : Pevara & Androl and channeling implications
- 24/10/2012 06:40:47 PM
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Did Perva actually initiate the link or was it Androl? *NM*
- 24/10/2012 07:02:15 PM
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Androl did. *NM*
- 25/10/2012 05:10:31 AM
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But didn't Nynaeve do it first at the cleansing?
- 25/10/2012 12:43:15 PM
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Pevara was thinking on very sketchy information.
- 25/10/2012 08:56:20 PM
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Re: Ch2 : Pevara & Androl and channeling implications
- 25/10/2012 05:13:43 AM
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Travelling
- 25/10/2012 08:56:41 AM
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Yes that's a pet theory of mine
- 25/10/2012 04:21:53 PM
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Re: Yes that's a pet theory of mine
- 25/10/2012 06:12:21 PM
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Re: Yes that's a pet theory of mine
- 25/10/2012 08:50:15 PM
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Perhaps, but if no on in the AoL could do it when mixed circles were common
- 28/10/2012 04:22:20 PM
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How strong Pevara is...
- 25/10/2012 07:08:26 PM
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I'm pretty sure Moiraine is closer to 30...
- 25/10/2012 07:41:37 PM
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Agreed
- 25/10/2012 08:37:24 PM
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That was disproved long ago...
- 26/10/2012 01:36:24 AM
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But Moiraine isn't 'exceptionally strong'
- 26/10/2012 05:16:10 AM
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Not particularly strong evidence for that last.
- 26/10/2012 05:36:54 AM
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But we know that it takes significantly more strength to maintain multiple weaves
- 26/10/2012 08:14:58 AM
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The Bell Curve explained...
- 26/10/2012 10:27:34 AM
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Re: The Bell Curve explained...
- 26/10/2012 11:40:04 AM
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Re: The Bell Curve explained...
- 26/10/2012 12:32:01 PM
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Re: The Bell Curve explained...
- 26/10/2012 12:48:51 PM
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Re: The Bell Curve explained...
- 26/10/2012 01:07:39 PM
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Re: The Bell Curve explained...
- 26/10/2012 01:18:32 PM
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Yet Sharina, Nynaeve etc exist, thus the BC is the same
- 27/10/2012 09:39:58 PM
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The curve is OBVIOUSLY the same...
- 28/10/2012 01:50:37 AM
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Re: The curve is OBVIOUSLY the same...
- 28/10/2012 02:01:59 PM
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You need to go read RJ's quotes:
- 28/10/2012 02:41:49 PM
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Re: You need to go read RJ's quotes:
- 28/10/2012 05:39:12 PM
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I need to come and save you from blatant fallacies being spouted by the loonies.
- 28/10/2012 05:56:21 PM
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Re: I need to come and save you from blatant fallacies being spouted by the loonies.
- 28/10/2012 07:44:02 PM
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This is like watching a train-wreck.
- 29/10/2012 02:58:51 AM
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Re: This is like watching a train-wreck.
- 29/10/2012 01:10:35 PM
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So what's your conclusion?
- 29/10/2012 02:14:33 PM
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you do realize that is an impossible question to answer from the books right?
- 29/10/2012 07:50:02 PM
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Excellent points...
- 29/10/2012 02:16:39 PM
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Re: Excellent points...
- 29/10/2012 02:47:30 PM
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You seem confused.
- 29/10/2012 03:22:47 PM
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Re: You seem confused.
- 29/10/2012 03:41:48 PM
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I think the point is that the AS didn't go force every woman in the area
- 29/10/2012 07:57:59 PM
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Re: You seem confused.
- 29/10/2012 08:23:22 PM
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Re: You seem confused.
- 29/10/2012 08:57:11 PM
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He drew graphs!
- 30/10/2012 12:49:09 AM
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He drew graphs!
- 30/10/2012 12:49:09 AM
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Re: Excellent points...
- 30/10/2012 12:20:00 AM
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Re: Excellent points...
- 30/10/2012 07:49:57 AM
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Re: You need to go read RJ's quotes:
- 29/10/2012 02:23:27 AM
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Re: You need to go read RJ's quotes:
- 29/10/2012 07:33:44 AM
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Huh?
- 29/10/2012 02:26:27 PM
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Re: Huh?
- 29/10/2012 02:42:07 PM
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You don't seem to know what random means...
- 29/10/2012 03:25:57 PM
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Re: You don't seem to know what random means...
- 29/10/2012 03:36:45 PM
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Personally I just think that 1000 women being allowed to tag along is a drop
- 29/10/2012 08:05:33 PM
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Re: Personally I just think that 1000 women being allowed to tag along is a drop
- 29/10/2012 09:04:02 PM
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Geography alone can do this
- 30/10/2012 12:39:53 AM
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Here's why its not random...
- 30/10/2012 01:04:18 AM
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Re: Here's why its not random...
- 30/10/2012 09:42:35 AM
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Re: Here's why its not random...
- 30/10/2012 01:51:03 PM
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Re: You don't seem to know what random means...
- 29/10/2012 08:22:40 PM
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Re: You don't seem to know what random means...
- 29/10/2012 09:06:08 PM
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Why must there be a mechanism?
- 30/10/2012 01:06:29 AM
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Re: Why must there be a mechanism?
- 30/10/2012 09:48:16 AM
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Nope...
- 30/10/2012 01:43:56 PM
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Re: Nope...
- 30/10/2012 02:34:51 PM
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Oh my...
- 30/10/2012 02:50:12 PM
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Thought experment time! Hurrah!
- 30/10/2012 03:27:01 PM
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But it is still possible in your example to get wildly varied results
- 30/10/2012 03:30:59 PM
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Re: But it is still possible in your example to get wildly varied results
- 30/10/2012 03:36:03 PM
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Re: Yet Sharina, Nynaeve etc exist, thus the BC is the same
- 28/10/2012 01:39:55 PM
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The point is there are still people being born in the highest strength categories
- 28/10/2012 04:18:55 PM
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Re: The point is there are still people being born in the highest strength categories
- 28/10/2012 05:21:44 PM
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The curve hasn't shifted!
- 28/10/2012 05:39:42 PM
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The fact is, Moiraine is not half as strong as Lanfear, hence she is below average strength.
- 28/10/2012 06:02:04 PM
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Re: The fact is, Moiraine is not half as strong as Lanfear, hence she is below average strength.
- 28/10/2012 07:27:26 PM
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There is not a single quote in the series that states Moiraine is less than half the strength
- 28/10/2012 10:31:28 PM
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How is this fact?
- 29/10/2012 02:59:49 AM
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Re: How is this fact?
- 29/10/2012 07:04:15 PM
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Explain Elza-Merise-Cadsuane then...
- 29/10/2012 08:20:14 PM
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Re: Explain Elza-Merise-Cadsuane then...
- 29/10/2012 08:38:11 PM
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Are you blind man?
- 30/10/2012 01:12:26 AM
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Re: The curve hasn't shifted!
- 28/10/2012 07:36:36 PM
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Well the most obvious thing is that RJ was quoted on the subject any number of times
- 28/10/2012 11:34:18 PM
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On Raw strength scores I think you are pretty inline with my thinking
- 27/10/2012 09:37:25 PM
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