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Re: The Bell Curve explained... Shannow Send a noteboard - 26/10/2012 12:32:01 PM
Together it makes a pretty much irrefutable case that the Bell Curve can only fit if the average strength female is around Egwene's level and all modern Aes Sedai fall well below average.


Possibly silly question from someone who hasn't paid too much attention to the strength discussions: Why do you call it a Bell-curve if almost everyone is in the bottom half? And when you say that almost everyone is below average, how is that possible? Shouldn't almost everyone be, you know, average?


Everyone today is below average. Because channelers are weaker today.

In other words, the Bell Curve would apply symmetrically to the channeling population of the Age of Legends. The remnants that are left today, on the other hand, mostly come from the bottom part of that Bell Curve.
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Ch2 : Pevara & Androl and channeling implications Sidious - 24/10/2012 06:40:47 PM 2979 Views
Did Perva actually initiate the link or was it Androl? *NM* TheCrownless - 24/10/2012 07:02:15 PM 783 Views
Androl did. *NM* Great Lord of Chaos - 25/10/2012 05:10:31 AM 1020 Views
But didn't Nynaeve do it first at the cleansing? TheCrownless - 25/10/2012 12:43:15 PM 1296 Views
Pevara was thinking on very sketchy information. Great Lord of Chaos - 25/10/2012 08:56:20 PM 1249 Views
did he start the link? or just take it? nigelgoboom - 27/10/2012 07:33:49 AM 928 Views
I think it's slightly off darius_sedai - 28/10/2012 04:21:05 PM 1187 Views
Re: Ch2 : Pevara & Androl and channeling implications Great Lord of Chaos - 25/10/2012 05:13:43 AM 1451 Views
Re: Ch2 : Pevara & Androl and channeling implications Sidious - 25/10/2012 04:23:20 PM 1231 Views
Re: Ch2 : Pevara & Androl and channeling implications DomA - 25/10/2012 09:52:03 PM 1282 Views
Travelling Tor - 25/10/2012 08:56:41 AM 1272 Views
Yes that's a pet theory of mine Sidious - 25/10/2012 04:21:53 PM 1292 Views
Re: Yes that's a pet theory of mine Tor - 25/10/2012 06:12:21 PM 1225 Views
Re: Yes that's a pet theory of mine DomA - 25/10/2012 08:50:15 PM 1130 Views
Re: Yes that's a pet theory of mine Tor - 25/10/2012 09:45:26 PM 1248 Views
Weren't there 150 or so at Maradon? *NM* Voscaia Sedai - 26/10/2012 03:29:53 PM 688 Views
Re: Yes that's a pet theory of mine DomA - 26/10/2012 08:49:58 PM 1340 Views
Perhaps, but if no on in the AoL could do it when mixed circles were common darius_sedai - 28/10/2012 04:22:20 PM 1028 Views
How strong Pevara is... fionwe1987 - 25/10/2012 07:08:26 PM 1375 Views
I'm pretty sure Moiraine is closer to 30... DREWRULESWOT! - 25/10/2012 07:41:37 PM 1066 Views
Agreed Sidious - 25/10/2012 08:37:24 PM 1179 Views
So... the old story of ignore the bell curve, eh? fionwe1987 - 26/10/2012 01:40:49 AM 1138 Views
No, I fully respect the bell curve Sidious - 26/10/2012 01:51:34 PM 1190 Views
That was disproved long ago... fionwe1987 - 26/10/2012 01:36:24 AM 1175 Views
But Moiraine isn't 'exceptionally strong' DREWRULESWOT! - 26/10/2012 05:16:10 AM 1197 Views
Not particularly strong evidence for that last. Great Lord of Chaos - 26/10/2012 05:36:54 AM 1163 Views
But we know that it takes significantly more strength to maintain multiple weaves DREWRULESWOT! - 26/10/2012 08:14:58 AM 1089 Views
Not true darius_sedai - 27/10/2012 09:15:51 PM 1102 Views
Not accurate darius_sedai - 27/10/2012 09:31:05 PM 1067 Views
The Bell Curve explained... Shannow - 26/10/2012 10:27:34 AM 1128 Views
Re: The Bell Curve explained... Tor - 26/10/2012 11:40:04 AM 1116 Views
Re: The Bell Curve explained... Shannow - 26/10/2012 12:32:01 PM 1040 Views
Re: The Bell Curve explained... Tor - 26/10/2012 12:48:51 PM 1172 Views
Re: The Bell Curve explained... Shannow - 26/10/2012 01:07:39 PM 1150 Views
Re: The Bell Curve explained... Tor - 26/10/2012 01:18:32 PM 1198 Views
Re: The Bell Curve explained... Shannow - 26/10/2012 01:57:18 PM 1208 Views
Re: The Bell Curve explained... Tor - 28/10/2012 02:07:39 PM 945 Views
Yet Sharina, Nynaeve etc exist, thus the BC is the same darius_sedai - 27/10/2012 09:39:58 PM 1272 Views
The curve is OBVIOUSLY the same... fionwe1987 - 28/10/2012 01:50:37 AM 984 Views
Re: The curve is OBVIOUSLY the same... Tor - 28/10/2012 02:01:59 PM 1074 Views
You need to go read RJ's quotes: fionwe1987 - 28/10/2012 02:41:49 PM 1125 Views
Re: You need to go read RJ's quotes: Tor - 28/10/2012 05:39:12 PM 1013 Views
I need to come and save you from blatant fallacies being spouted by the loonies. Shannow - 28/10/2012 05:56:21 PM 1017 Views
Re: I need to come and save you from blatant fallacies being spouted by the loonies. Tor - 28/10/2012 07:44:02 PM 1083 Views
This is like watching a train-wreck. fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 02:58:51 AM 990 Views
Re: This is like watching a train-wreck. DomA - 29/10/2012 01:10:35 PM 1210 Views
So what's your conclusion? Shannow - 29/10/2012 02:14:33 PM 993 Views
His conclusion is that RJ was right about the books he wrote... fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 02:19:59 PM 1104 Views
Pretty much... DomA - 30/10/2012 12:57:41 AM 1187 Views
you do realize that is an impossible question to answer from the books right? darius_sedai - 29/10/2012 07:50:02 PM 1116 Views
Excellent points... fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 02:16:39 PM 968 Views
Re: Excellent points... Tor - 29/10/2012 02:47:30 PM 1107 Views
You seem confused. fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 03:22:47 PM 960 Views
Re: You seem confused. Tor - 29/10/2012 03:41:48 PM 1004 Views
I think the point is that the AS didn't go force every woman in the area darius_sedai - 29/10/2012 07:57:59 PM 952 Views
Re: You seem confused. fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 08:23:22 PM 1143 Views
Re: You seem confused. Tor - 29/10/2012 08:57:11 PM 1109 Views
He drew graphs! fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 12:49:09 AM 1003 Views
Re: He drew graphs! Tor - 30/10/2012 07:43:54 AM 1076 Views
Re: He drew graphs! fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 01:57:05 PM 1008 Views
Re: Excellent points... DomA - 30/10/2012 12:20:00 AM 1051 Views
Re: Excellent points... Tor - 30/10/2012 07:49:57 AM 1043 Views
Re: Excellent points... DomA - 30/10/2012 01:05:45 PM 1413 Views
Re: Excellent points... Tor - 30/10/2012 01:25:11 PM 1066 Views
Re: Excellent points... DomA - 30/10/2012 12:20:17 AM 1166 Views
AS recruiting is minimal darius_sedai - 28/10/2012 10:41:29 PM 1015 Views
Re: You need to go read RJ's quotes: fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 02:23:27 AM 1007 Views
Re: You need to go read RJ's quotes: Tor - 29/10/2012 07:33:44 AM 1028 Views
Huh? fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 02:26:27 PM 1044 Views
Re: Huh? Tor - 29/10/2012 02:42:07 PM 980 Views
You don't seem to know what random means... fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 03:25:57 PM 1005 Views
Re: You don't seem to know what random means... Tor - 29/10/2012 03:36:45 PM 1024 Views
Personally I just think that 1000 women being allowed to tag along is a drop darius_sedai - 29/10/2012 08:05:33 PM 1053 Views
Re: Personally I just think that 1000 women being allowed to tag along is a drop Tor - 29/10/2012 09:04:02 PM 1088 Views
Geography alone can do this darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 12:39:53 AM 1002 Views
Re: Geography alone can do this Tor - 30/10/2012 09:45:58 AM 986 Views
Not really darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 02:49:05 PM 974 Views
Here's why its not random... fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 01:04:18 AM 972 Views
Re: Here's why its not random... Tor - 30/10/2012 09:42:35 AM 1132 Views
Re: Here's why its not random... fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 01:51:03 PM 973 Views
Re: Here's why its not random... Tor - 30/10/2012 02:21:04 PM 1017 Views
YEah, there's no point debating this... fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 02:46:39 PM 1018 Views
Genetics plays a role darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 03:03:41 PM 1146 Views
Re: You don't seem to know what random means... fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 08:22:40 PM 959 Views
Re: You don't seem to know what random means... Tor - 29/10/2012 09:06:08 PM 1019 Views
Why must there be a mechanism? fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 01:06:29 AM 983 Views
Re: Why must there be a mechanism? Tor - 30/10/2012 09:48:16 AM 939 Views
Nope... fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 01:43:56 PM 1135 Views
Re: Nope... Tor - 30/10/2012 02:34:51 PM 979 Views
Oh my... fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 02:50:12 PM 1034 Views
Thought experment time! Hurrah! Tor - 30/10/2012 03:27:01 PM 981 Views
But it is still possible in your example to get wildly varied results darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 03:30:59 PM 924 Views
Re: But it is still possible in your example to get wildly varied results Tor - 30/10/2012 03:36:03 PM 1015 Views
LOL darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 04:49:06 PM 1560 Views
Re: Yet Sharina, Nynaeve etc exist, thus the BC is the same Tor - 28/10/2012 01:39:55 PM 989 Views
The point is there are still people being born in the highest strength categories darius_sedai - 28/10/2012 04:18:55 PM 1046 Views
Re: The point is there are still people being born in the highest strength categories Tor - 28/10/2012 05:21:44 PM 1009 Views
The curve hasn't shifted! fionwe1987 - 28/10/2012 05:39:42 PM 1123 Views
The fact is, Moiraine is not half as strong as Lanfear, hence she is below average strength. Shannow - 28/10/2012 06:02:04 PM 1049 Views
Re: The fact is, Moiraine is not half as strong as Lanfear, hence she is below average strength. Tor - 28/10/2012 07:27:26 PM 972 Views
There is not a single quote in the series that states Moiraine is less than half the strength darius_sedai - 28/10/2012 10:31:28 PM 1028 Views
How is this fact? fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 02:59:49 AM 1087 Views
Re: How is this fact? Sidious - 29/10/2012 07:04:15 PM 1032 Views
Not so darius_sedai - 29/10/2012 08:09:29 PM 1009 Views
Re: Not so Sidious - 29/10/2012 08:43:16 PM 1084 Views
Sure it is darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 01:43:39 AM 1006 Views
Explain Elza-Merise-Cadsuane then... fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 08:20:14 PM 999 Views
Re: Explain Elza-Merise-Cadsuane then... Sidious - 29/10/2012 08:38:11 PM 1069 Views
Are you blind man? fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 01:12:26 AM 1024 Views
Re: Are you blind man? Sidious - 30/10/2012 09:23:37 AM 1060 Views
Cadsuane is just below Egwene... fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 01:37:54 PM 998 Views
Your strength scores don't square with the Pevara quote darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 03:15:22 PM 997 Views
Re: The curve hasn't shifted! Tor - 28/10/2012 07:36:36 PM 1020 Views
Well the most obvious thing is that RJ was quoted on the subject any number of times darius_sedai - 28/10/2012 11:34:18 PM 1046 Views
On Raw strength scores I think you are pretty inline with my thinking darius_sedai - 27/10/2012 09:37:25 PM 1157 Views
And the facing a Foresaken comment is out of context anyway... fionwe1987 - 28/10/2012 01:56:12 AM 1126 Views
Excellent point on raw v. Effective strength *NM* darius_sedai - 28/10/2012 04:13:21 PM 682 Views
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