There is not a single quote in the series that states Moiraine is less than half the strength
darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 28/10/2012 10:31:28 PM
In fact the evidence of her being more than half of Egwene who is significantly more than half of Lanfear (based on she and Aviendha being able to overwhelm a Forsaken level Channeler when neither is at full potential) leads to the conclusion that Moiraine is at least 50% of Lanfear.
And knowing that 2 average AS can shield a Forsaken female (Ispan and Falion .v. Nynaeve) is evidence enough that Moiraine level is stronger than you are giving credit for. In fact most evidence we have indicates Moiraine is well above the middle of the Bell Curve regardless of how close she may be to Lanfear in raw strength. Moiraine's level is fairly rare amongst women, and with the new information from Pevara/Androl is above average for men too
AS strength has been stated over and over to be in decline, this does not mean all Channeler strength is in decline, merely that the AS system does not work. The vast majority of WF we've been introduced to are much stronger than even Average AS. In fact the only Sea Folk women we've seen who are weak are the Sea Folk AS!
And knowing that 2 average AS can shield a Forsaken female (Ispan and Falion .v. Nynaeve) is evidence enough that Moiraine level is stronger than you are giving credit for. In fact most evidence we have indicates Moiraine is well above the middle of the Bell Curve regardless of how close she may be to Lanfear in raw strength. Moiraine's level is fairly rare amongst women, and with the new information from Pevara/Androl is above average for men too
AS strength has been stated over and over to be in decline, this does not mean all Channeler strength is in decline, merely that the AS system does not work. The vast majority of WF we've been introduced to are much stronger than even Average AS. In fact the only Sea Folk women we've seen who are weak are the Sea Folk AS!
Domani Drag Queen in the White Tower ... Aran'gar watch out!
Ch2 : Pevara & Androl and channeling implications
- 24/10/2012 06:40:47 PM
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Did Perva actually initiate the link or was it Androl? *NM*
- 24/10/2012 07:02:15 PM
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Androl did. *NM*
- 25/10/2012 05:10:31 AM
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But didn't Nynaeve do it first at the cleansing?
- 25/10/2012 12:43:15 PM
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Pevara was thinking on very sketchy information.
- 25/10/2012 08:56:20 PM
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Re: Ch2 : Pevara & Androl and channeling implications
- 25/10/2012 05:13:43 AM
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Travelling
- 25/10/2012 08:56:41 AM
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Yes that's a pet theory of mine
- 25/10/2012 04:21:53 PM
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Re: Yes that's a pet theory of mine
- 25/10/2012 06:12:21 PM
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Re: Yes that's a pet theory of mine
- 25/10/2012 08:50:15 PM
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Perhaps, but if no on in the AoL could do it when mixed circles were common
- 28/10/2012 04:22:20 PM
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How strong Pevara is...
- 25/10/2012 07:08:26 PM
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I'm pretty sure Moiraine is closer to 30...
- 25/10/2012 07:41:37 PM
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Agreed
- 25/10/2012 08:37:24 PM
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That was disproved long ago...
- 26/10/2012 01:36:24 AM
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But Moiraine isn't 'exceptionally strong'
- 26/10/2012 05:16:10 AM
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Not particularly strong evidence for that last.
- 26/10/2012 05:36:54 AM
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But we know that it takes significantly more strength to maintain multiple weaves
- 26/10/2012 08:14:58 AM
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The Bell Curve explained...
- 26/10/2012 10:27:34 AM
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Re: The Bell Curve explained...
- 26/10/2012 11:40:04 AM
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Re: The Bell Curve explained...
- 26/10/2012 12:32:01 PM
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Re: The Bell Curve explained...
- 26/10/2012 12:48:51 PM
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Re: The Bell Curve explained...
- 26/10/2012 01:07:39 PM
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Re: The Bell Curve explained...
- 26/10/2012 01:18:32 PM
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Yet Sharina, Nynaeve etc exist, thus the BC is the same
- 27/10/2012 09:39:58 PM
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The curve is OBVIOUSLY the same...
- 28/10/2012 01:50:37 AM
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Re: The curve is OBVIOUSLY the same...
- 28/10/2012 02:01:59 PM
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You need to go read RJ's quotes:
- 28/10/2012 02:41:49 PM
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Re: You need to go read RJ's quotes:
- 28/10/2012 05:39:12 PM
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I need to come and save you from blatant fallacies being spouted by the loonies.
- 28/10/2012 05:56:21 PM
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Re: I need to come and save you from blatant fallacies being spouted by the loonies.
- 28/10/2012 07:44:02 PM
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This is like watching a train-wreck.
- 29/10/2012 02:58:51 AM
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Re: This is like watching a train-wreck.
- 29/10/2012 01:10:35 PM
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So what's your conclusion?
- 29/10/2012 02:14:33 PM
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you do realize that is an impossible question to answer from the books right?
- 29/10/2012 07:50:02 PM
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Excellent points...
- 29/10/2012 02:16:39 PM
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Re: Excellent points...
- 29/10/2012 02:47:30 PM
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You seem confused.
- 29/10/2012 03:22:47 PM
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Re: You seem confused.
- 29/10/2012 03:41:48 PM
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I think the point is that the AS didn't go force every woman in the area
- 29/10/2012 07:57:59 PM
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Re: You seem confused.
- 29/10/2012 08:23:22 PM
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Re: You seem confused.
- 29/10/2012 08:57:11 PM
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He drew graphs!
- 30/10/2012 12:49:09 AM
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He drew graphs!
- 30/10/2012 12:49:09 AM
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Re: Excellent points...
- 30/10/2012 12:20:00 AM
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Re: Excellent points...
- 30/10/2012 07:49:57 AM
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Re: You need to go read RJ's quotes:
- 29/10/2012 02:23:27 AM
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Re: You need to go read RJ's quotes:
- 29/10/2012 07:33:44 AM
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Huh?
- 29/10/2012 02:26:27 PM
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Re: Huh?
- 29/10/2012 02:42:07 PM
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You don't seem to know what random means...
- 29/10/2012 03:25:57 PM
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Re: You don't seem to know what random means...
- 29/10/2012 03:36:45 PM
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Personally I just think that 1000 women being allowed to tag along is a drop
- 29/10/2012 08:05:33 PM
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Re: Personally I just think that 1000 women being allowed to tag along is a drop
- 29/10/2012 09:04:02 PM
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Geography alone can do this
- 30/10/2012 12:39:53 AM
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Here's why its not random...
- 30/10/2012 01:04:18 AM
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Re: Here's why its not random...
- 30/10/2012 09:42:35 AM
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Re: Here's why its not random...
- 30/10/2012 01:51:03 PM
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Re: You don't seem to know what random means...
- 29/10/2012 08:22:40 PM
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Re: You don't seem to know what random means...
- 29/10/2012 09:06:08 PM
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Why must there be a mechanism?
- 30/10/2012 01:06:29 AM
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Re: Why must there be a mechanism?
- 30/10/2012 09:48:16 AM
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Nope...
- 30/10/2012 01:43:56 PM
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Re: Nope...
- 30/10/2012 02:34:51 PM
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Oh my...
- 30/10/2012 02:50:12 PM
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Thought experment time! Hurrah!
- 30/10/2012 03:27:01 PM
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But it is still possible in your example to get wildly varied results
- 30/10/2012 03:30:59 PM
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Re: But it is still possible in your example to get wildly varied results
- 30/10/2012 03:36:03 PM
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Re: Yet Sharina, Nynaeve etc exist, thus the BC is the same
- 28/10/2012 01:39:55 PM
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The point is there are still people being born in the highest strength categories
- 28/10/2012 04:18:55 PM
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Re: The point is there are still people being born in the highest strength categories
- 28/10/2012 05:21:44 PM
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The curve hasn't shifted!
- 28/10/2012 05:39:42 PM
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The fact is, Moiraine is not half as strong as Lanfear, hence she is below average strength.
- 28/10/2012 06:02:04 PM
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Re: The fact is, Moiraine is not half as strong as Lanfear, hence she is below average strength.
- 28/10/2012 07:27:26 PM
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There is not a single quote in the series that states Moiraine is less than half the strength
- 28/10/2012 10:31:28 PM
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How is this fact?
- 29/10/2012 02:59:49 AM
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Re: How is this fact?
- 29/10/2012 07:04:15 PM
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Explain Elza-Merise-Cadsuane then...
- 29/10/2012 08:20:14 PM
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Re: Explain Elza-Merise-Cadsuane then...
- 29/10/2012 08:38:11 PM
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Are you blind man?
- 30/10/2012 01:12:26 AM
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Re: The curve hasn't shifted!
- 28/10/2012 07:36:36 PM
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Well the most obvious thing is that RJ was quoted on the subject any number of times
- 28/10/2012 11:34:18 PM
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On Raw strength scores I think you are pretty inline with my thinking
- 27/10/2012 09:37:25 PM
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