RJ applied his physics to the theory of the WoT loosely. Whenever he has been asked about strength he says he knows where everyone stands in relation to everyone else, but he has never said that he has a strength scale from 1 to 100. He has a categorical list, and whether this stretches from 1 to 21 is controversial. Everything we debate about is extrapolated from a loosely applied theorem.
If RJ is asked about battles, he often refers to knowledge, Talent, angreal, allies or other factors to answer the question. He has never answered anything scientifically e.g. he was asked how two women could hold someone as powerful as Nynaeve and he said that Falion/Ispan had a shielding Talent. He did not say that two women can hold a Forsaken woman etc.
He keeps it vague. In essence our debates are pointless, but that doesn't mean we can't point out controversial areas where quotes conflict.
I'm in the medical profession - it doesn't mean I would go crazy medically if I wrote WoT. There is no evidence that RJ put more than a cursory glance into his OP system of strength, especially in areas of combat.
Now if you apply the bell curve to the strength levels it peaks at level 10, which would make most women in the area as strong as Delana/Liandrin. Which is perfectly fine. There is no evidence that level 10 is half as powerful as level 20. Level 10 is merely the most common level. Level 21 is exceedingly rare and several standard deviations from the peak of the curve. It could be multiple times as powerful. Morgase can touch the Source 1 in 1000 times, and she is the lowest rated channeler... Lanfear is functionally thousands of times from powerful.
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The Bell Curve revisited
- 29/10/2012 09:44:09 AM
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Re: The Bell Curve revisited
- 29/10/2012 10:21:27 AM
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That's incorrect...
- 29/10/2012 10:26:49 AM
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Re: That's incorrect...
- 29/10/2012 10:36:32 AM
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Re: That's incorrect...
- 29/10/2012 10:40:27 AM
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Re: That's incorrect...
- 29/10/2012 10:42:57 AM
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Hehe...There are a few disputing it vocally. Whether they're in their right mind, well...
- 29/10/2012 10:45:07 AM
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Re: Hehe...There are a few disputing it vocally. Whether they're in their right mind, well...
- 29/10/2012 10:49:49 AM
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Re: Hehe...There are a few disputing it vocally. Whether they're in their right mind, well...
- 29/10/2012 10:56:37 AM
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It's only as skewed as it seems when you make the assumption that the Forsaken
- 31/10/2012 04:34:11 AM
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RJ the physicist didn't know math, so that Shannow could be right...
- 29/10/2012 02:11:19 PM
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Re: RJ the physicist didn't know math, so that Shannow could be right...
- 29/10/2012 02:37:33 PM
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there are dozens of reasons for this
- 29/10/2012 08:18:18 PM
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Re: there are dozens of reasons for this
- 29/10/2012 09:07:35 PM
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Again I don't argue that genetics play no role
- 30/10/2012 01:57:24 AM
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Once again just so,we are clear on my stance with Genetics and Strength
- 30/10/2012 03:27:11 PM
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That the 1000 Novices aren't a random sample of the population?
- 29/10/2012 08:23:47 PM
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And why would it be biased towards those with lower strength?
- 29/10/2012 09:11:25 PM
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Absolutely no reason...
- 30/10/2012 01:35:35 AM
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Re: Absolutely no reason...
- 30/10/2012 06:43:54 AM
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Only if it was a random sampling. Which this is not.
- 30/10/2012 01:58:34 PM
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That's exactly the point. I want you to explain why it wasn't random.
- 30/10/2012 02:14:59 PM
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It wasn't random because it was a self-selected sample!
- 30/10/2012 02:43:03 PM
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Re: It wasn't random because it was a self-selected sample!
- 30/10/2012 02:47:30 PM
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Go read a stats text will you?
- 30/10/2012 02:54:16 PM
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Done
- 31/10/2012 09:34:11 AM
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You seem to have perfected whining to a Talent...
- 10/11/2012 10:14:19 PM
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Re: You seem to have perfected whining to a Talent...
- 11/11/2012 11:37:16 AM
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Seriously? I went and looked at some statistics books, and you won't even reply?
- 01/11/2012 12:13:49 PM
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Yes that totally makes sense
- 30/10/2012 08:07:16 AM
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- 30/10/2012 08:07:16 AM
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That's not what happened...
- 30/10/2012 02:01:52 PM
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Doesn't mean RJ applied it to his series
- 30/10/2012 08:23:29 AM
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I hate to get into these things
- 29/10/2012 05:45:50 PM
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I would love for you to be right, because it would solve all our problems, but 0 is the challenge...
- 29/10/2012 07:56:34 PM
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In the truest sense, you are probably right that it is skewed
- 29/10/2012 08:20:52 PM
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Overwhelm Lanfear, not match her. *NM*
- 29/10/2012 08:26:09 PM
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Truth is, Moiraine was being overly optimistic...
- 29/10/2012 08:39:17 PM
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You're pathetic...
- 30/10/2012 01:20:01 AM
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The quote isn't specific
- 30/10/2012 08:32:36 AM
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Yet neither of them are at full potential and at least equal a Forsaken
- 30/10/2012 03:45:24 PM
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Re: In the truest sense, you are probably right that it is skewed
- 29/10/2012 09:10:27 PM
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Lots of people mean perfectly normal distribution when they say it
- 30/10/2012 05:25:35 PM
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Couldn't the Towers method of obtaining Aes Sedai be to blame?
- 30/10/2012 12:04:01 AM
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Re: Couldn't the Towers method of obtaining Aes Sedai be to blame?
- 30/10/2012 09:33:44 AM
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Are you sure about that?
- 30/10/2012 12:03:43 PM
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Re: Are you sure about that?
- 30/10/2012 12:19:34 PM
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That doesn't seem a coherent narrative to me
- 30/10/2012 04:26:25 PM
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Sharina did not have the Spark, nor did Nicola
- 30/10/2012 05:16:40 PM
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Re: Sharina did not have the Spark, nor did Nicola
- 30/10/2012 05:54:41 PM
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We do not know if Cadsuane or any of the Forsaken are Sparkers
- 30/10/2012 10:33:55 PM
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Re: We do not know if Cadsuane or any of the Forsaken are Sparkers
- 31/10/2012 12:30:52 AM
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A handful of examples are all we have and we have proof that an extremely strong Channeler
- 31/10/2012 02:58:57 AM
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you're confusing 2 things
- 30/10/2012 04:27:32 AM
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One thing
- 30/10/2012 05:23:17 PM
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That's the problem. The BC RJ has "built" has a minimum and a maximum value
- 30/10/2012 05:48:55 PM
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