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That doesn't seem a coherent narrative to me TheCrownless Send a noteboard - 30/10/2012 04:26:25 PM
As is said, every strong channeller in the book we know the origins of had the spark, in a similar way that there are too many weak channellers around now. I just don't see Maria's remarks being true (to at least what RJ put in the books). I appreciate this makes all of what I'm going to say next irrelevant if you believe what Maria says makes sense in context with the books but for me it doesn't.

I dislike using one bell curve to visualise all channelers, I much prefer a male and a female curve on the same graph which have different peaks either side of the "average". If it's anything like physical sexual dimorphism in humans then those peaks could be closer to 33 for females and 66 for males anyway (working off purely upper body strength studies, it could be a bit closer).

Again if you separated out the female channelers into those with the spark and without (This goes back to me not believing Maria). If you need to be a wilder to have a decent chance of being above AOL average and wilders have been continually ignored for 3000 years it's very possible that you're simply looking at the wrong side of the bell curve for people born without the spark.

If you accept Maria's statement then I fully understand that what I've said isn't applicable but I personally just can't accept what she says when the books to me say otherwise.
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The Bell Curve revisited - 29/10/2012 09:44:09 AM 1376 Views
Re: The Bell Curve revisited - 29/10/2012 10:21:27 AM 757 Views
That's incorrect... - 29/10/2012 10:26:49 AM 1320 Views
Re: That's incorrect... - 29/10/2012 10:36:32 AM 774 Views
RJ the physicist didn't know math, so that Shannow could be right... - 29/10/2012 02:11:19 PM 649 Views
Response to a few of your poorly researched points... - 29/10/2012 02:31:17 PM 645 Views
Re: RJ the physicist didn't know math, so that Shannow could be right... - 29/10/2012 02:37:33 PM 660 Views
Exactly... - 29/10/2012 02:39:30 PM 647 Views
there are dozens of reasons for this - 29/10/2012 08:18:18 PM 670 Views
Excellent point. - 29/10/2012 08:24:37 PM 683 Views
Re: there are dozens of reasons for this - 29/10/2012 09:07:35 PM 603 Views
Again I don't argue that genetics play no role - 30/10/2012 01:57:24 AM 556 Views
Re: Again I don't argue that genetics play no role - 30/10/2012 07:07:17 AM 600 Views
I don't think it plays much role in the plot - 30/10/2012 03:17:55 PM 749 Views
Once again just so,we are clear on my stance with Genetics and Strength - 30/10/2012 03:27:11 PM 618 Views
That the 1000 Novices aren't a random sample of the population? - 29/10/2012 08:23:47 PM 555 Views
And why would it be biased towards those with lower strength? - 29/10/2012 09:11:25 PM 552 Views
Absolutely no reason... - 30/10/2012 01:35:35 AM 665 Views
Re: Absolutely no reason... - 30/10/2012 06:43:54 AM 556 Views
Only if it was a random sampling. Which this is not. - 30/10/2012 01:58:34 PM 616 Views
That's exactly the point. I want you to explain why it wasn't random. - 30/10/2012 02:14:59 PM 569 Views
It wasn't random because it was a self-selected sample! - 30/10/2012 02:43:03 PM 574 Views
Re: It wasn't random because it was a self-selected sample! - 30/10/2012 02:47:30 PM 581 Views
Go read a stats text will you? - 30/10/2012 02:54:16 PM 577 Views
Done - 31/10/2012 09:34:11 AM 1233 Views
You seem to have perfected whining to a Talent... - 10/11/2012 10:14:19 PM 829 Views
Re: You seem to have perfected whining to a Talent... - 11/11/2012 11:37:16 AM 626 Views
Re: You seem to have perfected whining to a Talent... - 11/11/2012 07:14:48 PM 510 Views
Re: You seem to have perfected whining to a Talent... - 11/11/2012 08:33:59 PM 1268 Views
Re: You seem to have perfected whining to a Talent... - 11/11/2012 08:43:19 PM 789 Views
Still nothing? - 10/11/2012 03:33:15 PM 586 Views
Still doesn't explain the difference - 30/10/2012 07:01:53 PM 529 Views
Re: Still doesn't explain the difference - 10/11/2012 10:21:00 PM 604 Views
Yes that totally makes sense - 30/10/2012 08:07:16 AM 697 Views
Thank you! *NM* - 30/10/2012 10:19:15 AM 319 Views
That's not what happened... - 30/10/2012 02:01:52 PM 615 Views
Re: That's not what happened... - 30/10/2012 02:15:57 PM 564 Views
Who said it would? - 30/10/2012 02:44:17 PM 594 Views
let's not mix up "random" and "representative" - 30/10/2012 05:28:09 PM 634 Views
Doesn't mean RJ applied it to his series - 30/10/2012 08:23:29 AM 652 Views
But of course he did.. - 30/10/2012 02:13:07 PM 663 Views
I hate to get into these things - 29/10/2012 05:45:50 PM 731 Views
I would love for you to be right, because it would solve all our problems, but 0 is the challenge... - 29/10/2012 07:56:34 PM 660 Views
In the truest sense, you are probably right that it is skewed - 29/10/2012 08:20:52 PM 706 Views
Overwhelm Lanfear, not match her. *NM* - 29/10/2012 08:26:09 PM 356 Views
Truth is, Moiraine was being overly optimistic... - 29/10/2012 08:39:17 PM 629 Views
You're pathetic... - 30/10/2012 01:20:01 AM 572 Views
The quote isn't specific - 30/10/2012 08:32:36 AM 677 Views
Its highly specific... - 30/10/2012 02:15:38 PM 522 Views
Yet neither of them are at full potential and at least equal a Forsaken - 30/10/2012 03:45:24 PM 1170 Views
Honestly! - 30/10/2012 02:07:37 AM 602 Views
Re: In the truest sense, you are probably right that it is skewed - 29/10/2012 09:10:27 PM 603 Views
Lots of people mean perfectly normal distribution when they say it - 30/10/2012 05:25:35 PM 549 Views
Couldn't the Towers method of obtaining Aes Sedai be to blame? - 30/10/2012 12:04:01 AM 740 Views
Re: Couldn't the Towers method of obtaining Aes Sedai be to blame? - 30/10/2012 09:33:44 AM 688 Views
Are you sure about that? - 30/10/2012 12:03:43 PM 676 Views
Re: Are you sure about that? - 30/10/2012 12:19:34 PM 605 Views
That doesn't seem a coherent narrative to me - 30/10/2012 04:26:25 PM 879 Views
Sharina did not have the Spark, nor did Nicola - 30/10/2012 05:16:40 PM 667 Views
Re: Sharina did not have the Spark, nor did Nicola - 30/10/2012 05:54:41 PM 597 Views
We do not know if Cadsuane or any of the Forsaken are Sparkers - 30/10/2012 10:33:55 PM 715 Views
you're confusing 2 things - 30/10/2012 04:27:32 AM 733 Views
+1 *NM* - 30/10/2012 09:17:07 AM 674 Views
Re: you're confusing 2 things - 30/10/2012 09:21:39 AM 672 Views
Not true... - 30/10/2012 11:49:57 AM 700 Views
One thing - 30/10/2012 05:23:17 PM 656 Views
That's the problem. The BC RJ has "built" has a minimum and a maximum value - 30/10/2012 05:48:55 PM 674 Views

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