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I don't see how magnifiers solve this fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 21/01/2016 10:01:17 PM

If sa'angreal are magnifiers, how are we explaining bufferless ones? Take Callandor. Let's say it magnifies by 100X and you're still safe. So if you overdraw and draw in 200X, aren't you still saying "a lack of a buffer allows access to additional power beyond what the angreal was designed for"??

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Angreal, Sa'angreal and Moiraine at 66 Sidious - 11/01/2016 08:53:23 AM 3101 Views
Or we can choose to assume Elayne is incorrect darius_sedai - 11/01/2016 03:50:14 PM 1425 Views
Uhhh... fionwe1987 - 12/01/2016 12:07:42 AM 1557 Views
Yet there are problems with either darius_sedai - 15/01/2016 08:52:04 PM 1281 Views
Re: Yet there are problems with either Sidious - 16/01/2016 05:29:11 AM 1667 Views
Would you consider... Duke - 17/01/2016 09:06:59 AM 1349 Views
random thought on Shielding darius_sedai - 19/01/2016 07:34:20 PM 1417 Views
You're forgetting the other side, though. fionwe1987 - 19/01/2016 08:19:59 PM 1509 Views
yes but it doesn't proactively do this darius_sedai - 19/01/2016 10:06:25 PM 1353 Views
Responding to a shield doesn't require proactiveness fionwe1987 - 20/01/2016 05:53:24 AM 1278 Views
it's a visualization thing really darius_sedai - 20/01/2016 04:39:08 PM 1314 Views
Not the crux of the debate... fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 03:37:40 AM 1393 Views
Not really though darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 05:00:34 PM 1148 Views
I always explained it as fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 09:26:35 PM 1419 Views
There's not much to go on since all the shields except Berowyn's are the same darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 09:55:14 PM 1272 Views
That's precisely my point fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 10:09:02 PM 1382 Views
now you are speculating based on a lack of evidence darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 10:39:13 PM 1229 Views
There's actual evidence: fionwe1987 - 22/01/2016 06:25:25 AM 1385 Views
what's dense here is that you keep putting in quotes that don't support your position darius_sedai - 22/01/2016 03:28:16 PM 1578 Views
Whoa.. fionwe1987 - 22/01/2016 04:24:19 PM 1449 Views
Not at all darius_sedai - 22/01/2016 05:03:50 PM 1399 Views
Wonderful fionwe1987 - 22/01/2016 06:30:35 PM 1387 Views
yup that's my argument. that and you're a dick so I'm done with this darius_sedai - 22/01/2016 06:46:23 PM 1218 Views
Re: yup that's my argument. that and you're a dick so I'm done with this Sidious - 23/01/2016 02:35:33 PM 1625 Views
Petty much *NM* darius_sedai - 24/01/2016 02:50:32 PM 737 Views
Hmmm.... Sidious - 23/01/2016 03:06:15 PM 1624 Views
Let me clear this up darius_sedai - 25/01/2016 04:19:51 PM 1661 Views
Some more quotes fionwe1987 - 25/01/2016 05:10:51 PM 1414 Views
none of which I've denied or tried to prove otherwise darius_sedai - 25/01/2016 07:19:48 PM 1753 Views
Re: none of which I've denied or tried to prove otherwise fionwe1987 - 26/01/2016 03:45:52 AM 1391 Views
Re: none of which I've denied or tried to prove otherwise Sidious - 26/01/2016 09:00:55 AM 1701 Views
Re: none of which I've denied or tried to prove otherwise fionwe1987 - 26/01/2016 10:39:49 AM 1381 Views
from the very beginning of this conversation I've been saying I'm theorizing darius_sedai - 26/01/2016 04:09:19 PM 1290 Views
Oh well then I agree with you Sidious - 26/01/2016 08:50:55 AM 1622 Views
thanks darius_sedai - 26/01/2016 04:26:46 PM 1646 Views
Yes, but that's not what I'm arguing... fionwe1987 - 16/01/2016 08:56:15 AM 1219 Views
But additive doesn't explain buffers and being able to overdraw darius_sedai - 16/01/2016 03:02:33 PM 1275 Views
Don't those two facts explain each other? fionwe1987 - 16/01/2016 03:24:44 PM 1275 Views
It actually seems counterintuitive to me darius_sedai - 19/01/2016 07:15:37 PM 1215 Views
Simple fionwe1987 - 19/01/2016 08:21:11 PM 1330 Views
Not at all darius_sedai - 19/01/2016 10:17:39 PM 1131 Views
Huh? fionwe1987 - 20/01/2016 06:01:04 AM 1398 Views
agree to disagree I suppose ... I don't see it this way *NM* darius_sedai - 20/01/2016 04:41:16 PM 738 Views
I didn't sense disagreement so much as confusion over my position. *NM* fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 12:01:16 AM 700 Views
Re: I didn't sense disagreement so much as confusion over my position. darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 02:07:21 AM 1233 Views
Re: I didn't sense disagreement so much as confusion over my position. fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 03:32:59 AM 1281 Views
I don't necessarily think that's true darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 05:07:40 PM 1344 Views
I don't see how magnifiers solve this fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 10:01:17 PM 1322 Views
Re: I don't see how magnifiers solve this darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 10:16:16 PM 1282 Views
Uhhh... fionwe1987 - 22/01/2016 06:51:11 AM 1401 Views
Funny, I just saw this post darius_sedai - 17/09/2016 11:13:09 PM 1140 Views
The very first chapter (the Prologue) disproves this fionwe1987 - 03/10/2016 06:56:28 AM 1177 Views
No it doesn't darius_sedai - 05/10/2016 12:47:03 AM 1069 Views
Re: Don't those two facts explain each other? Dunstan - 08/10/2016 05:06:53 AM 1071 Views
Re: Yes, but that's not what I'm arguing... Dunstan - 08/10/2016 04:52:06 AM 1217 Views
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