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I don't see how magnifiers solve this fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 21/01/2016 10:01:17 PM

If sa'angreal are magnifiers, how are we explaining bufferless ones? Take Callandor. Let's say it magnifies by 100X and you're still safe. So if you overdraw and draw in 200X, aren't you still saying "a lack of a buffer allows access to additional power beyond what the angreal was designed for"??

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Angreal, Sa'angreal and Moiraine at 66 Sidious - 11/01/2016 08:53:23 AM 2963 Views
Or we can choose to assume Elayne is incorrect darius_sedai - 11/01/2016 03:50:14 PM 1359 Views
Uhhh... fionwe1987 - 12/01/2016 12:07:42 AM 1512 Views
Yet there are problems with either darius_sedai - 15/01/2016 08:52:04 PM 1218 Views
Re: Yet there are problems with either Sidious - 16/01/2016 05:29:11 AM 1612 Views
Would you consider... Duke - 17/01/2016 09:06:59 AM 1305 Views
random thought on Shielding darius_sedai - 19/01/2016 07:34:20 PM 1364 Views
You're forgetting the other side, though. fionwe1987 - 19/01/2016 08:19:59 PM 1446 Views
yes but it doesn't proactively do this darius_sedai - 19/01/2016 10:06:25 PM 1315 Views
Responding to a shield doesn't require proactiveness fionwe1987 - 20/01/2016 05:53:24 AM 1229 Views
it's a visualization thing really darius_sedai - 20/01/2016 04:39:08 PM 1253 Views
Not the crux of the debate... fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 03:37:40 AM 1346 Views
Not really though darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 05:00:34 PM 1101 Views
I always explained it as fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 09:26:35 PM 1370 Views
There's not much to go on since all the shields except Berowyn's are the same darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 09:55:14 PM 1231 Views
That's precisely my point fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 10:09:02 PM 1320 Views
now you are speculating based on a lack of evidence darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 10:39:13 PM 1175 Views
There's actual evidence: fionwe1987 - 22/01/2016 06:25:25 AM 1339 Views
what's dense here is that you keep putting in quotes that don't support your position darius_sedai - 22/01/2016 03:28:16 PM 1517 Views
Whoa.. fionwe1987 - 22/01/2016 04:24:19 PM 1408 Views
Not at all darius_sedai - 22/01/2016 05:03:50 PM 1359 Views
Wonderful fionwe1987 - 22/01/2016 06:30:35 PM 1343 Views
yup that's my argument. that and you're a dick so I'm done with this darius_sedai - 22/01/2016 06:46:23 PM 1162 Views
Re: yup that's my argument. that and you're a dick so I'm done with this Sidious - 23/01/2016 02:35:33 PM 1579 Views
Petty much *NM* darius_sedai - 24/01/2016 02:50:32 PM 720 Views
Hmmm.... Sidious - 23/01/2016 03:06:15 PM 1568 Views
Let me clear this up darius_sedai - 25/01/2016 04:19:51 PM 1604 Views
Some more quotes fionwe1987 - 25/01/2016 05:10:51 PM 1354 Views
none of which I've denied or tried to prove otherwise darius_sedai - 25/01/2016 07:19:48 PM 1694 Views
Re: none of which I've denied or tried to prove otherwise fionwe1987 - 26/01/2016 03:45:52 AM 1344 Views
Re: none of which I've denied or tried to prove otherwise Sidious - 26/01/2016 09:00:55 AM 1651 Views
Re: none of which I've denied or tried to prove otherwise fionwe1987 - 26/01/2016 10:39:49 AM 1334 Views
from the very beginning of this conversation I've been saying I'm theorizing darius_sedai - 26/01/2016 04:09:19 PM 1237 Views
Oh well then I agree with you Sidious - 26/01/2016 08:50:55 AM 1556 Views
thanks darius_sedai - 26/01/2016 04:26:46 PM 1593 Views
Yes, but that's not what I'm arguing... fionwe1987 - 16/01/2016 08:56:15 AM 1168 Views
But additive doesn't explain buffers and being able to overdraw darius_sedai - 16/01/2016 03:02:33 PM 1224 Views
Don't those two facts explain each other? fionwe1987 - 16/01/2016 03:24:44 PM 1216 Views
It actually seems counterintuitive to me darius_sedai - 19/01/2016 07:15:37 PM 1157 Views
Simple fionwe1987 - 19/01/2016 08:21:11 PM 1285 Views
Not at all darius_sedai - 19/01/2016 10:17:39 PM 1082 Views
Huh? fionwe1987 - 20/01/2016 06:01:04 AM 1341 Views
agree to disagree I suppose ... I don't see it this way *NM* darius_sedai - 20/01/2016 04:41:16 PM 709 Views
I didn't sense disagreement so much as confusion over my position. *NM* fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 12:01:16 AM 671 Views
Re: I didn't sense disagreement so much as confusion over my position. darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 02:07:21 AM 1192 Views
Re: I didn't sense disagreement so much as confusion over my position. fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 03:32:59 AM 1235 Views
I don't necessarily think that's true darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 05:07:40 PM 1293 Views
I don't see how magnifiers solve this fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 10:01:17 PM 1256 Views
Re: I don't see how magnifiers solve this darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 10:16:16 PM 1232 Views
Uhhh... fionwe1987 - 22/01/2016 06:51:11 AM 1353 Views
Funny, I just saw this post darius_sedai - 17/09/2016 11:13:09 PM 1094 Views
The very first chapter (the Prologue) disproves this fionwe1987 - 03/10/2016 06:56:28 AM 1134 Views
No it doesn't darius_sedai - 05/10/2016 12:47:03 AM 1021 Views
Re: Don't those two facts explain each other? Dunstan - 08/10/2016 05:06:53 AM 1016 Views
Re: Yes, but that's not what I'm arguing... Dunstan - 08/10/2016 04:52:06 AM 1175 Views
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