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I don't see how magnifiers solve this fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 21/01/2016 10:01:17 PM

If sa'angreal are magnifiers, how are we explaining bufferless ones? Take Callandor. Let's say it magnifies by 100X and you're still safe. So if you overdraw and draw in 200X, aren't you still saying "a lack of a buffer allows access to additional power beyond what the angreal was designed for"??

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Angreal, Sa'angreal and Moiraine at 66 Sidious - 11/01/2016 08:53:23 AM 2742 Views
Or we can choose to assume Elayne is incorrect darius_sedai - 11/01/2016 03:50:14 PM 1263 Views
Uhhh... fionwe1987 - 12/01/2016 12:07:42 AM 1401 Views
Yet there are problems with either darius_sedai - 15/01/2016 08:52:04 PM 1109 Views
Re: Yet there are problems with either Sidious - 16/01/2016 05:29:11 AM 1498 Views
Would you consider... Duke - 17/01/2016 09:06:59 AM 1215 Views
random thought on Shielding darius_sedai - 19/01/2016 07:34:20 PM 1249 Views
You're forgetting the other side, though. fionwe1987 - 19/01/2016 08:19:59 PM 1339 Views
yes but it doesn't proactively do this darius_sedai - 19/01/2016 10:06:25 PM 1191 Views
Responding to a shield doesn't require proactiveness fionwe1987 - 20/01/2016 05:53:24 AM 1108 Views
it's a visualization thing really darius_sedai - 20/01/2016 04:39:08 PM 1156 Views
Not the crux of the debate... fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 03:37:40 AM 1234 Views
Not really though darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 05:00:34 PM 1011 Views
I always explained it as fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 09:26:35 PM 1241 Views
There's not much to go on since all the shields except Berowyn's are the same darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 09:55:14 PM 1136 Views
That's precisely my point fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 10:09:02 PM 1222 Views
now you are speculating based on a lack of evidence darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 10:39:13 PM 1052 Views
There's actual evidence: fionwe1987 - 22/01/2016 06:25:25 AM 1229 Views
what's dense here is that you keep putting in quotes that don't support your position darius_sedai - 22/01/2016 03:28:16 PM 1396 Views
Whoa.. fionwe1987 - 22/01/2016 04:24:19 PM 1310 Views
Not at all darius_sedai - 22/01/2016 05:03:50 PM 1277 Views
Wonderful fionwe1987 - 22/01/2016 06:30:35 PM 1257 Views
yup that's my argument. that and you're a dick so I'm done with this darius_sedai - 22/01/2016 06:46:23 PM 1075 Views
Re: yup that's my argument. that and you're a dick so I'm done with this Sidious - 23/01/2016 02:35:33 PM 1479 Views
Petty much *NM* darius_sedai - 24/01/2016 02:50:32 PM 650 Views
Hmmm.... Sidious - 23/01/2016 03:06:15 PM 1440 Views
Let me clear this up darius_sedai - 25/01/2016 04:19:51 PM 1467 Views
Some more quotes fionwe1987 - 25/01/2016 05:10:51 PM 1241 Views
none of which I've denied or tried to prove otherwise darius_sedai - 25/01/2016 07:19:48 PM 1541 Views
Re: none of which I've denied or tried to prove otherwise fionwe1987 - 26/01/2016 03:45:52 AM 1254 Views
Re: none of which I've denied or tried to prove otherwise Sidious - 26/01/2016 09:00:55 AM 1555 Views
Re: none of which I've denied or tried to prove otherwise fionwe1987 - 26/01/2016 10:39:49 AM 1227 Views
from the very beginning of this conversation I've been saying I'm theorizing darius_sedai - 26/01/2016 04:09:19 PM 1136 Views
Oh well then I agree with you Sidious - 26/01/2016 08:50:55 AM 1441 Views
thanks darius_sedai - 26/01/2016 04:26:46 PM 1497 Views
Yes, but that's not what I'm arguing... fionwe1987 - 16/01/2016 08:56:15 AM 1058 Views
But additive doesn't explain buffers and being able to overdraw darius_sedai - 16/01/2016 03:02:33 PM 1087 Views
Don't those two facts explain each other? fionwe1987 - 16/01/2016 03:24:44 PM 1119 Views
It actually seems counterintuitive to me darius_sedai - 19/01/2016 07:15:37 PM 1072 Views
Simple fionwe1987 - 19/01/2016 08:21:11 PM 1192 Views
Not at all darius_sedai - 19/01/2016 10:17:39 PM 965 Views
Huh? fionwe1987 - 20/01/2016 06:01:04 AM 1206 Views
agree to disagree I suppose ... I don't see it this way *NM* darius_sedai - 20/01/2016 04:41:16 PM 660 Views
I didn't sense disagreement so much as confusion over my position. *NM* fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 12:01:16 AM 622 Views
Re: I didn't sense disagreement so much as confusion over my position. darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 02:07:21 AM 1084 Views
Re: I didn't sense disagreement so much as confusion over my position. fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 03:32:59 AM 1095 Views
I don't necessarily think that's true darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 05:07:40 PM 1195 Views
I don't see how magnifiers solve this fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 10:01:17 PM 1152 Views
Re: I don't see how magnifiers solve this darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 10:16:16 PM 1102 Views
Uhhh... fionwe1987 - 22/01/2016 06:51:11 AM 1248 Views
Funny, I just saw this post darius_sedai - 17/09/2016 11:13:09 PM 989 Views
The very first chapter (the Prologue) disproves this fionwe1987 - 03/10/2016 06:56:28 AM 1026 Views
No it doesn't darius_sedai - 05/10/2016 12:47:03 AM 942 Views
Re: Don't those two facts explain each other? Dunstan - 08/10/2016 05:06:53 AM 884 Views
Re: Yes, but that's not what I'm arguing... Dunstan - 08/10/2016 04:52:06 AM 1086 Views
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