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I don't see how magnifiers solve this fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 21/01/2016 10:01:17 PM

If sa'angreal are magnifiers, how are we explaining bufferless ones? Take Callandor. Let's say it magnifies by 100X and you're still safe. So if you overdraw and draw in 200X, aren't you still saying "a lack of a buffer allows access to additional power beyond what the angreal was designed for"??

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Angreal, Sa'angreal and Moiraine at 66 Sidious - 11/01/2016 08:53:23 AM 3410 Views
Or we can choose to assume Elayne is incorrect darius_sedai - 11/01/2016 03:50:14 PM 1551 Views
Uhhh... fionwe1987 - 12/01/2016 12:07:42 AM 1680 Views
Yet there are problems with either darius_sedai - 15/01/2016 08:52:04 PM 1406 Views
Re: Yet there are problems with either Sidious - 16/01/2016 05:29:11 AM 1809 Views
Would you consider... Duke - 17/01/2016 09:06:59 AM 1462 Views
random thought on Shielding darius_sedai - 19/01/2016 07:34:20 PM 1541 Views
You're forgetting the other side, though. fionwe1987 - 19/01/2016 08:19:59 PM 1626 Views
yes but it doesn't proactively do this darius_sedai - 19/01/2016 10:06:25 PM 1474 Views
Responding to a shield doesn't require proactiveness fionwe1987 - 20/01/2016 05:53:24 AM 1398 Views
it's a visualization thing really darius_sedai - 20/01/2016 04:39:08 PM 1428 Views
Not the crux of the debate... fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 03:37:40 AM 1501 Views
Not really though darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 05:00:34 PM 1286 Views
I always explained it as fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 09:26:35 PM 1527 Views
There's not much to go on since all the shields except Berowyn's are the same darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 09:55:14 PM 1408 Views
That's precisely my point fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 10:09:02 PM 1487 Views
now you are speculating based on a lack of evidence darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 10:39:13 PM 1345 Views
There's actual evidence: fionwe1987 - 22/01/2016 06:25:25 AM 1494 Views
what's dense here is that you keep putting in quotes that don't support your position darius_sedai - 22/01/2016 03:28:16 PM 1700 Views
Whoa.. fionwe1987 - 22/01/2016 04:24:19 PM 1541 Views
Not at all darius_sedai - 22/01/2016 05:03:50 PM 1520 Views
Wonderful fionwe1987 - 22/01/2016 06:30:35 PM 1554 Views
yup that's my argument. that and you're a dick so I'm done with this darius_sedai - 22/01/2016 06:46:23 PM 1336 Views
Re: yup that's my argument. that and you're a dick so I'm done with this Sidious - 23/01/2016 02:35:33 PM 1731 Views
Petty much *NM* darius_sedai - 24/01/2016 02:50:32 PM 786 Views
Hmmm.... Sidious - 23/01/2016 03:06:15 PM 1748 Views
Let me clear this up darius_sedai - 25/01/2016 04:19:51 PM 1774 Views
Some more quotes fionwe1987 - 25/01/2016 05:10:51 PM 1526 Views
none of which I've denied or tried to prove otherwise darius_sedai - 25/01/2016 07:19:48 PM 1859 Views
Re: none of which I've denied or tried to prove otherwise fionwe1987 - 26/01/2016 03:45:52 AM 1495 Views
Re: none of which I've denied or tried to prove otherwise Sidious - 26/01/2016 09:00:55 AM 1809 Views
Re: none of which I've denied or tried to prove otherwise fionwe1987 - 26/01/2016 10:39:49 AM 1502 Views
from the very beginning of this conversation I've been saying I'm theorizing darius_sedai - 26/01/2016 04:09:19 PM 1410 Views
Oh well then I agree with you Sidious - 26/01/2016 08:50:55 AM 1747 Views
thanks darius_sedai - 26/01/2016 04:26:46 PM 1756 Views
Yes, but that's not what I'm arguing... fionwe1987 - 16/01/2016 08:56:15 AM 1337 Views
But additive doesn't explain buffers and being able to overdraw darius_sedai - 16/01/2016 03:02:33 PM 1398 Views
Don't those two facts explain each other? fionwe1987 - 16/01/2016 03:24:44 PM 1402 Views
It actually seems counterintuitive to me darius_sedai - 19/01/2016 07:15:37 PM 1324 Views
Simple fionwe1987 - 19/01/2016 08:21:11 PM 1483 Views
Not at all darius_sedai - 19/01/2016 10:17:39 PM 1262 Views
Huh? fionwe1987 - 20/01/2016 06:01:04 AM 1527 Views
agree to disagree I suppose ... I don't see it this way *NM* darius_sedai - 20/01/2016 04:41:16 PM 804 Views
I didn't sense disagreement so much as confusion over my position. *NM* fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 12:01:16 AM 748 Views
Re: I didn't sense disagreement so much as confusion over my position. darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 02:07:21 AM 1340 Views
Re: I didn't sense disagreement so much as confusion over my position. fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 03:32:59 AM 1404 Views
I don't necessarily think that's true darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 05:07:40 PM 1467 Views
I don't see how magnifiers solve this fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 10:01:17 PM 1423 Views
Re: I don't see how magnifiers solve this darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 10:16:16 PM 1405 Views
Uhhh... fionwe1987 - 22/01/2016 06:51:11 AM 1540 Views
Funny, I just saw this post darius_sedai - 17/09/2016 11:13:09 PM 1258 Views
The very first chapter (the Prologue) disproves this fionwe1987 - 03/10/2016 06:56:28 AM 1269 Views
No it doesn't darius_sedai - 05/10/2016 12:47:03 AM 1169 Views
Re: Don't those two facts explain each other? Dunstan - 08/10/2016 05:06:53 AM 1189 Views
Re: Yes, but that's not what I'm arguing... Dunstan - 08/10/2016 04:52:06 AM 1340 Views
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