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I don't see how magnifiers solve this fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 21/01/2016 10:01:17 PM

If sa'angreal are magnifiers, how are we explaining bufferless ones? Take Callandor. Let's say it magnifies by 100X and you're still safe. So if you overdraw and draw in 200X, aren't you still saying "a lack of a buffer allows access to additional power beyond what the angreal was designed for"??

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Angreal, Sa'angreal and Moiraine at 66 Sidious - 11/01/2016 08:53:23 AM 3053 Views
Or we can choose to assume Elayne is incorrect darius_sedai - 11/01/2016 03:50:14 PM 1399 Views
Uhhh... fionwe1987 - 12/01/2016 12:07:42 AM 1541 Views
Yet there are problems with either darius_sedai - 15/01/2016 08:52:04 PM 1262 Views
Re: Yet there are problems with either Sidious - 16/01/2016 05:29:11 AM 1646 Views
Would you consider... Duke - 17/01/2016 09:06:59 AM 1328 Views
random thought on Shielding darius_sedai - 19/01/2016 07:34:20 PM 1400 Views
You're forgetting the other side, though. fionwe1987 - 19/01/2016 08:19:59 PM 1495 Views
yes but it doesn't proactively do this darius_sedai - 19/01/2016 10:06:25 PM 1337 Views
Responding to a shield doesn't require proactiveness fionwe1987 - 20/01/2016 05:53:24 AM 1255 Views
it's a visualization thing really darius_sedai - 20/01/2016 04:39:08 PM 1289 Views
Not the crux of the debate... fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 03:37:40 AM 1370 Views
Not really though darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 05:00:34 PM 1126 Views
I always explained it as fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 09:26:35 PM 1397 Views
There's not much to go on since all the shields except Berowyn's are the same darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 09:55:14 PM 1255 Views
That's precisely my point fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 10:09:02 PM 1358 Views
now you are speculating based on a lack of evidence darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 10:39:13 PM 1204 Views
There's actual evidence: fionwe1987 - 22/01/2016 06:25:25 AM 1370 Views
what's dense here is that you keep putting in quotes that don't support your position darius_sedai - 22/01/2016 03:28:16 PM 1554 Views
Whoa.. fionwe1987 - 22/01/2016 04:24:19 PM 1436 Views
Not at all darius_sedai - 22/01/2016 05:03:50 PM 1379 Views
Wonderful fionwe1987 - 22/01/2016 06:30:35 PM 1369 Views
yup that's my argument. that and you're a dick so I'm done with this darius_sedai - 22/01/2016 06:46:23 PM 1197 Views
Re: yup that's my argument. that and you're a dick so I'm done with this Sidious - 23/01/2016 02:35:33 PM 1609 Views
Petty much *NM* darius_sedai - 24/01/2016 02:50:32 PM 730 Views
Hmmm.... Sidious - 23/01/2016 03:06:15 PM 1607 Views
Let me clear this up darius_sedai - 25/01/2016 04:19:51 PM 1634 Views
Some more quotes fionwe1987 - 25/01/2016 05:10:51 PM 1389 Views
none of which I've denied or tried to prove otherwise darius_sedai - 25/01/2016 07:19:48 PM 1735 Views
Re: none of which I've denied or tried to prove otherwise fionwe1987 - 26/01/2016 03:45:52 AM 1376 Views
Re: none of which I've denied or tried to prove otherwise Sidious - 26/01/2016 09:00:55 AM 1679 Views
Re: none of which I've denied or tried to prove otherwise fionwe1987 - 26/01/2016 10:39:49 AM 1358 Views
from the very beginning of this conversation I've been saying I'm theorizing darius_sedai - 26/01/2016 04:09:19 PM 1271 Views
Oh well then I agree with you Sidious - 26/01/2016 08:50:55 AM 1602 Views
thanks darius_sedai - 26/01/2016 04:26:46 PM 1620 Views
Yes, but that's not what I'm arguing... fionwe1987 - 16/01/2016 08:56:15 AM 1204 Views
But additive doesn't explain buffers and being able to overdraw darius_sedai - 16/01/2016 03:02:33 PM 1254 Views
Don't those two facts explain each other? fionwe1987 - 16/01/2016 03:24:44 PM 1253 Views
It actually seems counterintuitive to me darius_sedai - 19/01/2016 07:15:37 PM 1195 Views
Simple fionwe1987 - 19/01/2016 08:21:11 PM 1315 Views
Not at all darius_sedai - 19/01/2016 10:17:39 PM 1107 Views
Huh? fionwe1987 - 20/01/2016 06:01:04 AM 1376 Views
agree to disagree I suppose ... I don't see it this way *NM* darius_sedai - 20/01/2016 04:41:16 PM 731 Views
I didn't sense disagreement so much as confusion over my position. *NM* fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 12:01:16 AM 691 Views
Re: I didn't sense disagreement so much as confusion over my position. darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 02:07:21 AM 1220 Views
Re: I didn't sense disagreement so much as confusion over my position. fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 03:32:59 AM 1263 Views
I don't necessarily think that's true darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 05:07:40 PM 1325 Views
I don't see how magnifiers solve this fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 10:01:17 PM 1300 Views
Re: I don't see how magnifiers solve this darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 10:16:16 PM 1261 Views
Uhhh... fionwe1987 - 22/01/2016 06:51:11 AM 1385 Views
Funny, I just saw this post darius_sedai - 17/09/2016 11:13:09 PM 1118 Views
The very first chapter (the Prologue) disproves this fionwe1987 - 03/10/2016 06:56:28 AM 1160 Views
No it doesn't darius_sedai - 05/10/2016 12:47:03 AM 1048 Views
Re: Don't those two facts explain each other? Dunstan - 08/10/2016 05:06:53 AM 1046 Views
Re: Yes, but that's not what I'm arguing... Dunstan - 08/10/2016 04:52:06 AM 1195 Views
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