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That's precisely my point fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 21/01/2016 10:09:02 PM

I don't think you can say the Aes Sedai shielding is only male optimized. Nynaeve used a typical AS shield against Moghedien, and Moggy's shield was no different. Nynaeve didn't comment on it. Similarly, no one thought Moggy's shield on Liandrin was different. Only the knot, which was made immensely complex.

Moghedien shielded Nyn in TAR, and she tried to break free and it was a solid wall, no flex reported.

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Angreal, Sa'angreal and Moiraine at 66 Sidious - 11/01/2016 08:53:23 AM 3369 Views
Or we can choose to assume Elayne is incorrect darius_sedai - 11/01/2016 03:50:14 PM 1532 Views
Uhhh... fionwe1987 - 12/01/2016 12:07:42 AM 1660 Views
Yet there are problems with either darius_sedai - 15/01/2016 08:52:04 PM 1384 Views
Re: Yet there are problems with either Sidious - 16/01/2016 05:29:11 AM 1784 Views
Would you consider... Duke - 17/01/2016 09:06:59 AM 1448 Views
random thought on Shielding darius_sedai - 19/01/2016 07:34:20 PM 1522 Views
You're forgetting the other side, though. fionwe1987 - 19/01/2016 08:19:59 PM 1605 Views
yes but it doesn't proactively do this darius_sedai - 19/01/2016 10:06:25 PM 1455 Views
Responding to a shield doesn't require proactiveness fionwe1987 - 20/01/2016 05:53:24 AM 1380 Views
it's a visualization thing really darius_sedai - 20/01/2016 04:39:08 PM 1412 Views
Not the crux of the debate... fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 03:37:40 AM 1488 Views
Not really though darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 05:00:34 PM 1264 Views
I always explained it as fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 09:26:35 PM 1511 Views
There's not much to go on since all the shields except Berowyn's are the same darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 09:55:14 PM 1385 Views
That's precisely my point fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 10:09:02 PM 1476 Views
now you are speculating based on a lack of evidence darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 10:39:13 PM 1325 Views
There's actual evidence: fionwe1987 - 22/01/2016 06:25:25 AM 1477 Views
what's dense here is that you keep putting in quotes that don't support your position darius_sedai - 22/01/2016 03:28:16 PM 1678 Views
Whoa.. fionwe1987 - 22/01/2016 04:24:19 PM 1524 Views
Not at all darius_sedai - 22/01/2016 05:03:50 PM 1501 Views
Wonderful fionwe1987 - 22/01/2016 06:30:35 PM 1539 Views
yup that's my argument. that and you're a dick so I'm done with this darius_sedai - 22/01/2016 06:46:23 PM 1315 Views
Re: yup that's my argument. that and you're a dick so I'm done with this Sidious - 23/01/2016 02:35:33 PM 1718 Views
Petty much *NM* darius_sedai - 24/01/2016 02:50:32 PM 770 Views
Hmmm.... Sidious - 23/01/2016 03:06:15 PM 1735 Views
Let me clear this up darius_sedai - 25/01/2016 04:19:51 PM 1758 Views
Some more quotes fionwe1987 - 25/01/2016 05:10:51 PM 1509 Views
none of which I've denied or tried to prove otherwise darius_sedai - 25/01/2016 07:19:48 PM 1843 Views
Re: none of which I've denied or tried to prove otherwise fionwe1987 - 26/01/2016 03:45:52 AM 1483 Views
Re: none of which I've denied or tried to prove otherwise Sidious - 26/01/2016 09:00:55 AM 1789 Views
Re: none of which I've denied or tried to prove otherwise fionwe1987 - 26/01/2016 10:39:49 AM 1483 Views
from the very beginning of this conversation I've been saying I'm theorizing darius_sedai - 26/01/2016 04:09:19 PM 1390 Views
Oh well then I agree with you Sidious - 26/01/2016 08:50:55 AM 1731 Views
thanks darius_sedai - 26/01/2016 04:26:46 PM 1736 Views
Yes, but that's not what I'm arguing... fionwe1987 - 16/01/2016 08:56:15 AM 1318 Views
But additive doesn't explain buffers and being able to overdraw darius_sedai - 16/01/2016 03:02:33 PM 1374 Views
Don't those two facts explain each other? fionwe1987 - 16/01/2016 03:24:44 PM 1381 Views
It actually seems counterintuitive to me darius_sedai - 19/01/2016 07:15:37 PM 1306 Views
Simple fionwe1987 - 19/01/2016 08:21:11 PM 1452 Views
Not at all darius_sedai - 19/01/2016 10:17:39 PM 1240 Views
Huh? fionwe1987 - 20/01/2016 06:01:04 AM 1504 Views
agree to disagree I suppose ... I don't see it this way *NM* darius_sedai - 20/01/2016 04:41:16 PM 790 Views
I didn't sense disagreement so much as confusion over my position. *NM* fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 12:01:16 AM 740 Views
Re: I didn't sense disagreement so much as confusion over my position. darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 02:07:21 AM 1314 Views
Re: I didn't sense disagreement so much as confusion over my position. fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 03:32:59 AM 1375 Views
I don't necessarily think that's true darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 05:07:40 PM 1443 Views
I don't see how magnifiers solve this fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 10:01:17 PM 1403 Views
Re: I don't see how magnifiers solve this darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 10:16:16 PM 1384 Views
Uhhh... fionwe1987 - 22/01/2016 06:51:11 AM 1508 Views
Funny, I just saw this post darius_sedai - 17/09/2016 11:13:09 PM 1236 Views
The very first chapter (the Prologue) disproves this fionwe1987 - 03/10/2016 06:56:28 AM 1256 Views
No it doesn't darius_sedai - 05/10/2016 12:47:03 AM 1151 Views
Re: Don't those two facts explain each other? Dunstan - 08/10/2016 05:06:53 AM 1171 Views
Re: Yes, but that's not what I'm arguing... Dunstan - 08/10/2016 04:52:06 AM 1317 Views
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