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The very first chapter (the Prologue) disproves this fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 03/10/2016 06:56:28 AM

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If someone can draw more than this much above their maximum it would seem odd given how many times we've heard about the dangers of overdrawing.

Why? You can overdraw as massively as you want. The constant thing is that you will either be burned out, or straight out die. The best evidence for this is Lews Therin, who, with no angreal or sa'angreal, overdrew enough to create a mountain taller than Everest.

From there, the rest of your argument collapses...

Gonna miss these discussions. Was fun to lay this to bed.

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Angreal, Sa'angreal and Moiraine at 66 Sidious - 11/01/2016 08:53:23 AM 2773 Views
Or we can choose to assume Elayne is incorrect darius_sedai - 11/01/2016 03:50:14 PM 1286 Views
Uhhh... fionwe1987 - 12/01/2016 12:07:42 AM 1421 Views
Yet there are problems with either darius_sedai - 15/01/2016 08:52:04 PM 1129 Views
Re: Yet there are problems with either Sidious - 16/01/2016 05:29:11 AM 1523 Views
Would you consider... Duke - 17/01/2016 09:06:59 AM 1234 Views
random thought on Shielding darius_sedai - 19/01/2016 07:34:20 PM 1279 Views
You're forgetting the other side, though. fionwe1987 - 19/01/2016 08:19:59 PM 1363 Views
yes but it doesn't proactively do this darius_sedai - 19/01/2016 10:06:25 PM 1212 Views
Responding to a shield doesn't require proactiveness fionwe1987 - 20/01/2016 05:53:24 AM 1125 Views
it's a visualization thing really darius_sedai - 20/01/2016 04:39:08 PM 1172 Views
Not the crux of the debate... fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 03:37:40 AM 1259 Views
Not really though darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 05:00:34 PM 1028 Views
I always explained it as fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 09:26:35 PM 1265 Views
There's not much to go on since all the shields except Berowyn's are the same darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 09:55:14 PM 1154 Views
That's precisely my point fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 10:09:02 PM 1245 Views
now you are speculating based on a lack of evidence darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 10:39:13 PM 1069 Views
There's actual evidence: fionwe1987 - 22/01/2016 06:25:25 AM 1254 Views
what's dense here is that you keep putting in quotes that don't support your position darius_sedai - 22/01/2016 03:28:16 PM 1419 Views
Whoa.. fionwe1987 - 22/01/2016 04:24:19 PM 1331 Views
Not at all darius_sedai - 22/01/2016 05:03:50 PM 1291 Views
Wonderful fionwe1987 - 22/01/2016 06:30:35 PM 1274 Views
yup that's my argument. that and you're a dick so I'm done with this darius_sedai - 22/01/2016 06:46:23 PM 1092 Views
Re: yup that's my argument. that and you're a dick so I'm done with this Sidious - 23/01/2016 02:35:33 PM 1503 Views
Petty much *NM* darius_sedai - 24/01/2016 02:50:32 PM 668 Views
Hmmm.... Sidious - 23/01/2016 03:06:15 PM 1466 Views
Let me clear this up darius_sedai - 25/01/2016 04:19:51 PM 1493 Views
Some more quotes fionwe1987 - 25/01/2016 05:10:51 PM 1264 Views
none of which I've denied or tried to prove otherwise darius_sedai - 25/01/2016 07:19:48 PM 1570 Views
Re: none of which I've denied or tried to prove otherwise fionwe1987 - 26/01/2016 03:45:52 AM 1277 Views
Re: none of which I've denied or tried to prove otherwise Sidious - 26/01/2016 09:00:55 AM 1577 Views
Re: none of which I've denied or tried to prove otherwise fionwe1987 - 26/01/2016 10:39:49 AM 1251 Views
from the very beginning of this conversation I've been saying I'm theorizing darius_sedai - 26/01/2016 04:09:19 PM 1153 Views
Oh well then I agree with you Sidious - 26/01/2016 08:50:55 AM 1462 Views
thanks darius_sedai - 26/01/2016 04:26:46 PM 1510 Views
Yes, but that's not what I'm arguing... fionwe1987 - 16/01/2016 08:56:15 AM 1077 Views
But additive doesn't explain buffers and being able to overdraw darius_sedai - 16/01/2016 03:02:33 PM 1110 Views
Don't those two facts explain each other? fionwe1987 - 16/01/2016 03:24:44 PM 1137 Views
It actually seems counterintuitive to me darius_sedai - 19/01/2016 07:15:37 PM 1086 Views
Simple fionwe1987 - 19/01/2016 08:21:11 PM 1209 Views
Not at all darius_sedai - 19/01/2016 10:17:39 PM 981 Views
Huh? fionwe1987 - 20/01/2016 06:01:04 AM 1226 Views
agree to disagree I suppose ... I don't see it this way *NM* darius_sedai - 20/01/2016 04:41:16 PM 668 Views
I didn't sense disagreement so much as confusion over my position. *NM* fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 12:01:16 AM 630 Views
Re: I didn't sense disagreement so much as confusion over my position. darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 02:07:21 AM 1101 Views
Re: I didn't sense disagreement so much as confusion over my position. fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 03:32:59 AM 1118 Views
I don't necessarily think that's true darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 05:07:40 PM 1210 Views
I don't see how magnifiers solve this fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 10:01:17 PM 1173 Views
Re: I don't see how magnifiers solve this darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 10:16:16 PM 1117 Views
Uhhh... fionwe1987 - 22/01/2016 06:51:11 AM 1269 Views
Funny, I just saw this post darius_sedai - 17/09/2016 11:13:09 PM 1010 Views
The very first chapter (the Prologue) disproves this fionwe1987 - 03/10/2016 06:56:28 AM 1046 Views
No it doesn't darius_sedai - 05/10/2016 12:47:03 AM 957 Views
Re: Don't those two facts explain each other? Dunstan - 08/10/2016 05:06:53 AM 904 Views
Re: Yes, but that's not what I'm arguing... Dunstan - 08/10/2016 04:52:06 AM 1100 Views
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