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That's precisely my point fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 21/01/2016 10:09:02 PM

I don't think you can say the Aes Sedai shielding is only male optimized. Nynaeve used a typical AS shield against Moghedien, and Moggy's shield was no different. Nynaeve didn't comment on it. Similarly, no one thought Moggy's shield on Liandrin was different. Only the knot, which was made immensely complex.

Moghedien shielded Nyn in TAR, and she tried to break free and it was a solid wall, no flex reported.

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Angreal, Sa'angreal and Moiraine at 66 Sidious - 11/01/2016 08:53:23 AM 3093 Views
Or we can choose to assume Elayne is incorrect darius_sedai - 11/01/2016 03:50:14 PM 1423 Views
Uhhh... fionwe1987 - 12/01/2016 12:07:42 AM 1557 Views
Yet there are problems with either darius_sedai - 15/01/2016 08:52:04 PM 1281 Views
Re: Yet there are problems with either Sidious - 16/01/2016 05:29:11 AM 1666 Views
Would you consider... Duke - 17/01/2016 09:06:59 AM 1345 Views
random thought on Shielding darius_sedai - 19/01/2016 07:34:20 PM 1417 Views
You're forgetting the other side, though. fionwe1987 - 19/01/2016 08:19:59 PM 1509 Views
yes but it doesn't proactively do this darius_sedai - 19/01/2016 10:06:25 PM 1352 Views
Responding to a shield doesn't require proactiveness fionwe1987 - 20/01/2016 05:53:24 AM 1278 Views
it's a visualization thing really darius_sedai - 20/01/2016 04:39:08 PM 1313 Views
Not the crux of the debate... fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 03:37:40 AM 1392 Views
Not really though darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 05:00:34 PM 1147 Views
I always explained it as fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 09:26:35 PM 1418 Views
There's not much to go on since all the shields except Berowyn's are the same darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 09:55:14 PM 1271 Views
That's precisely my point fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 10:09:02 PM 1379 Views
now you are speculating based on a lack of evidence darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 10:39:13 PM 1229 Views
There's actual evidence: fionwe1987 - 22/01/2016 06:25:25 AM 1384 Views
what's dense here is that you keep putting in quotes that don't support your position darius_sedai - 22/01/2016 03:28:16 PM 1576 Views
Whoa.. fionwe1987 - 22/01/2016 04:24:19 PM 1448 Views
Not at all darius_sedai - 22/01/2016 05:03:50 PM 1397 Views
Wonderful fionwe1987 - 22/01/2016 06:30:35 PM 1385 Views
yup that's my argument. that and you're a dick so I'm done with this darius_sedai - 22/01/2016 06:46:23 PM 1217 Views
Re: yup that's my argument. that and you're a dick so I'm done with this Sidious - 23/01/2016 02:35:33 PM 1625 Views
Petty much *NM* darius_sedai - 24/01/2016 02:50:32 PM 736 Views
Hmmm.... Sidious - 23/01/2016 03:06:15 PM 1623 Views
Let me clear this up darius_sedai - 25/01/2016 04:19:51 PM 1655 Views
Some more quotes fionwe1987 - 25/01/2016 05:10:51 PM 1413 Views
none of which I've denied or tried to prove otherwise darius_sedai - 25/01/2016 07:19:48 PM 1751 Views
Re: none of which I've denied or tried to prove otherwise fionwe1987 - 26/01/2016 03:45:52 AM 1390 Views
Re: none of which I've denied or tried to prove otherwise Sidious - 26/01/2016 09:00:55 AM 1699 Views
Re: none of which I've denied or tried to prove otherwise fionwe1987 - 26/01/2016 10:39:49 AM 1380 Views
from the very beginning of this conversation I've been saying I'm theorizing darius_sedai - 26/01/2016 04:09:19 PM 1289 Views
Oh well then I agree with you Sidious - 26/01/2016 08:50:55 AM 1618 Views
thanks darius_sedai - 26/01/2016 04:26:46 PM 1642 Views
Yes, but that's not what I'm arguing... fionwe1987 - 16/01/2016 08:56:15 AM 1217 Views
But additive doesn't explain buffers and being able to overdraw darius_sedai - 16/01/2016 03:02:33 PM 1273 Views
Don't those two facts explain each other? fionwe1987 - 16/01/2016 03:24:44 PM 1273 Views
It actually seems counterintuitive to me darius_sedai - 19/01/2016 07:15:37 PM 1214 Views
Simple fionwe1987 - 19/01/2016 08:21:11 PM 1330 Views
Not at all darius_sedai - 19/01/2016 10:17:39 PM 1129 Views
Huh? fionwe1987 - 20/01/2016 06:01:04 AM 1397 Views
agree to disagree I suppose ... I don't see it this way *NM* darius_sedai - 20/01/2016 04:41:16 PM 738 Views
I didn't sense disagreement so much as confusion over my position. *NM* fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 12:01:16 AM 699 Views
Re: I didn't sense disagreement so much as confusion over my position. darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 02:07:21 AM 1233 Views
Re: I didn't sense disagreement so much as confusion over my position. fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 03:32:59 AM 1281 Views
I don't necessarily think that's true darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 05:07:40 PM 1342 Views
I don't see how magnifiers solve this fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 10:01:17 PM 1321 Views
Re: I don't see how magnifiers solve this darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 10:16:16 PM 1281 Views
Uhhh... fionwe1987 - 22/01/2016 06:51:11 AM 1399 Views
Funny, I just saw this post darius_sedai - 17/09/2016 11:13:09 PM 1139 Views
The very first chapter (the Prologue) disproves this fionwe1987 - 03/10/2016 06:56:28 AM 1175 Views
No it doesn't darius_sedai - 05/10/2016 12:47:03 AM 1066 Views
Re: Don't those two facts explain each other? Dunstan - 08/10/2016 05:06:53 AM 1067 Views
Re: Yes, but that's not what I'm arguing... Dunstan - 08/10/2016 04:52:06 AM 1215 Views
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