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I don't see how magnifiers solve this fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 21/01/2016 10:01:17 PM

If sa'angreal are magnifiers, how are we explaining bufferless ones? Take Callandor. Let's say it magnifies by 100X and you're still safe. So if you overdraw and draw in 200X, aren't you still saying "a lack of a buffer allows access to additional power beyond what the angreal was designed for"??

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Angreal, Sa'angreal and Moiraine at 66 Sidious - 11/01/2016 08:53:23 AM 3392 Views
Or we can choose to assume Elayne is incorrect darius_sedai - 11/01/2016 03:50:14 PM 1540 Views
Uhhh... fionwe1987 - 12/01/2016 12:07:42 AM 1669 Views
Yet there are problems with either darius_sedai - 15/01/2016 08:52:04 PM 1396 Views
Re: Yet there are problems with either Sidious - 16/01/2016 05:29:11 AM 1797 Views
Would you consider... Duke - 17/01/2016 09:06:59 AM 1455 Views
random thought on Shielding darius_sedai - 19/01/2016 07:34:20 PM 1528 Views
You're forgetting the other side, though. fionwe1987 - 19/01/2016 08:19:59 PM 1615 Views
yes but it doesn't proactively do this darius_sedai - 19/01/2016 10:06:25 PM 1464 Views
Responding to a shield doesn't require proactiveness fionwe1987 - 20/01/2016 05:53:24 AM 1387 Views
it's a visualization thing really darius_sedai - 20/01/2016 04:39:08 PM 1420 Views
Not the crux of the debate... fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 03:37:40 AM 1497 Views
Not really though darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 05:00:34 PM 1273 Views
I always explained it as fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 09:26:35 PM 1519 Views
There's not much to go on since all the shields except Berowyn's are the same darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 09:55:14 PM 1395 Views
That's precisely my point fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 10:09:02 PM 1483 Views
now you are speculating based on a lack of evidence darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 10:39:13 PM 1335 Views
There's actual evidence: fionwe1987 - 22/01/2016 06:25:25 AM 1486 Views
what's dense here is that you keep putting in quotes that don't support your position darius_sedai - 22/01/2016 03:28:16 PM 1689 Views
Whoa.. fionwe1987 - 22/01/2016 04:24:19 PM 1531 Views
Not at all darius_sedai - 22/01/2016 05:03:50 PM 1510 Views
Wonderful fionwe1987 - 22/01/2016 06:30:35 PM 1546 Views
yup that's my argument. that and you're a dick so I'm done with this darius_sedai - 22/01/2016 06:46:23 PM 1325 Views
Re: yup that's my argument. that and you're a dick so I'm done with this Sidious - 23/01/2016 02:35:33 PM 1727 Views
Petty much *NM* darius_sedai - 24/01/2016 02:50:32 PM 780 Views
Hmmm.... Sidious - 23/01/2016 03:06:15 PM 1743 Views
Let me clear this up darius_sedai - 25/01/2016 04:19:51 PM 1767 Views
Some more quotes fionwe1987 - 25/01/2016 05:10:51 PM 1516 Views
none of which I've denied or tried to prove otherwise darius_sedai - 25/01/2016 07:19:48 PM 1848 Views
Re: none of which I've denied or tried to prove otherwise fionwe1987 - 26/01/2016 03:45:52 AM 1489 Views
Re: none of which I've denied or tried to prove otherwise Sidious - 26/01/2016 09:00:55 AM 1803 Views
Re: none of which I've denied or tried to prove otherwise fionwe1987 - 26/01/2016 10:39:49 AM 1492 Views
from the very beginning of this conversation I've been saying I'm theorizing darius_sedai - 26/01/2016 04:09:19 PM 1399 Views
Oh well then I agree with you Sidious - 26/01/2016 08:50:55 AM 1743 Views
thanks darius_sedai - 26/01/2016 04:26:46 PM 1745 Views
Yes, but that's not what I'm arguing... fionwe1987 - 16/01/2016 08:56:15 AM 1326 Views
But additive doesn't explain buffers and being able to overdraw darius_sedai - 16/01/2016 03:02:33 PM 1386 Views
Don't those two facts explain each other? fionwe1987 - 16/01/2016 03:24:44 PM 1390 Views
It actually seems counterintuitive to me darius_sedai - 19/01/2016 07:15:37 PM 1315 Views
Simple fionwe1987 - 19/01/2016 08:21:11 PM 1469 Views
Not at all darius_sedai - 19/01/2016 10:17:39 PM 1250 Views
Huh? fionwe1987 - 20/01/2016 06:01:04 AM 1513 Views
agree to disagree I suppose ... I don't see it this way *NM* darius_sedai - 20/01/2016 04:41:16 PM 796 Views
I didn't sense disagreement so much as confusion over my position. *NM* fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 12:01:16 AM 745 Views
Re: I didn't sense disagreement so much as confusion over my position. darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 02:07:21 AM 1325 Views
Re: I didn't sense disagreement so much as confusion over my position. fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 03:32:59 AM 1386 Views
I don't necessarily think that's true darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 05:07:40 PM 1453 Views
I don't see how magnifiers solve this fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 10:01:17 PM 1414 Views
Re: I don't see how magnifiers solve this darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 10:16:16 PM 1394 Views
Uhhh... fionwe1987 - 22/01/2016 06:51:11 AM 1523 Views
Funny, I just saw this post darius_sedai - 17/09/2016 11:13:09 PM 1245 Views
The very first chapter (the Prologue) disproves this fionwe1987 - 03/10/2016 06:56:28 AM 1262 Views
No it doesn't darius_sedai - 05/10/2016 12:47:03 AM 1159 Views
Re: Don't those two facts explain each other? Dunstan - 08/10/2016 05:06:53 AM 1180 Views
Re: Yes, but that's not what I'm arguing... Dunstan - 08/10/2016 04:52:06 AM 1326 Views
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