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I don't see how magnifiers solve this fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 21/01/2016 10:01:17 PM

If sa'angreal are magnifiers, how are we explaining bufferless ones? Take Callandor. Let's say it magnifies by 100X and you're still safe. So if you overdraw and draw in 200X, aren't you still saying "a lack of a buffer allows access to additional power beyond what the angreal was designed for"??

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Angreal, Sa'angreal and Moiraine at 66 Sidious - 11/01/2016 08:53:23 AM 1832 Views
Or we can choose to assume Elayne is incorrect darius_sedai - 11/01/2016 03:50:14 PM 881 Views
Uhhh... fionwe1987 - 12/01/2016 12:07:42 AM 989 Views
Yet there are problems with either darius_sedai - 15/01/2016 08:52:04 PM 679 Views
Re: Yet there are problems with either Sidious - 16/01/2016 05:29:11 AM 921 Views
Would you consider... Duke - 17/01/2016 09:06:59 AM 814 Views
random thought on Shielding darius_sedai - 19/01/2016 07:34:20 PM 877 Views
You're forgetting the other side, though. fionwe1987 - 19/01/2016 08:19:59 PM 935 Views
yes but it doesn't proactively do this darius_sedai - 19/01/2016 10:06:25 PM 813 Views
Responding to a shield doesn't require proactiveness fionwe1987 - 20/01/2016 05:53:24 AM 701 Views
it's a visualization thing really darius_sedai - 20/01/2016 04:39:08 PM 753 Views
Not the crux of the debate... fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 03:37:40 AM 826 Views
Not really though darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 05:00:34 PM 610 Views
I always explained it as fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 09:26:35 PM 812 Views
There's not much to go on since all the shields except Berowyn's are the same darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 09:55:14 PM 707 Views
That's precisely my point fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 10:09:02 PM 841 Views
now you are speculating based on a lack of evidence darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 10:39:13 PM 685 Views
There's actual evidence: fionwe1987 - 22/01/2016 06:25:25 AM 864 Views
what's dense here is that you keep putting in quotes that don't support your position darius_sedai - 22/01/2016 03:28:16 PM 978 Views
Whoa.. fionwe1987 - 22/01/2016 04:24:19 PM 929 Views
Not at all darius_sedai - 22/01/2016 05:03:50 PM 873 Views
Wonderful fionwe1987 - 22/01/2016 06:30:35 PM 853 Views
yup that's my argument. that and you're a dick so I'm done with this darius_sedai - 22/01/2016 06:46:23 PM 680 Views
Re: yup that's my argument. that and you're a dick so I'm done with this Sidious - 23/01/2016 02:35:33 PM 921 Views
Petty much *NM* darius_sedai - 24/01/2016 02:50:32 PM 362 Views
Hmmm.... Sidious - 23/01/2016 03:06:15 PM 865 Views
Let me clear this up darius_sedai - 25/01/2016 04:19:51 PM 1054 Views
Some more quotes fionwe1987 - 25/01/2016 05:10:51 PM 820 Views
none of which I've denied or tried to prove otherwise darius_sedai - 25/01/2016 07:19:48 PM 1120 Views
Re: none of which I've denied or tried to prove otherwise fionwe1987 - 26/01/2016 03:45:52 AM 887 Views
Re: none of which I've denied or tried to prove otherwise Sidious - 26/01/2016 09:00:55 AM 978 Views
Re: none of which I've denied or tried to prove otherwise fionwe1987 - 26/01/2016 10:39:49 AM 813 Views
from the very beginning of this conversation I've been saying I'm theorizing darius_sedai - 26/01/2016 04:09:19 PM 722 Views
Oh well then I agree with you Sidious - 26/01/2016 08:50:55 AM 886 Views
thanks darius_sedai - 26/01/2016 04:26:46 PM 1059 Views
Yes, but that's not what I'm arguing... fionwe1987 - 16/01/2016 08:56:15 AM 649 Views
But additive doesn't explain buffers and being able to overdraw darius_sedai - 16/01/2016 03:02:33 PM 695 Views
Don't those two facts explain each other? fionwe1987 - 16/01/2016 03:24:44 PM 724 Views
It actually seems counterintuitive to me darius_sedai - 19/01/2016 07:15:37 PM 684 Views
Simple fionwe1987 - 19/01/2016 08:21:11 PM 801 Views
Not at all darius_sedai - 19/01/2016 10:17:39 PM 586 Views
Huh? fionwe1987 - 20/01/2016 06:01:04 AM 768 Views
agree to disagree I suppose ... I don't see it this way *NM* darius_sedai - 20/01/2016 04:41:16 PM 410 Views
I didn't sense disagreement so much as confusion over my position. *NM* fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 12:01:16 AM 389 Views
Re: I didn't sense disagreement so much as confusion over my position. darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 02:07:21 AM 715 Views
Re: I didn't sense disagreement so much as confusion over my position. fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 03:32:59 AM 725 Views
I don't necessarily think that's true darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 05:07:40 PM 804 Views
I don't see how magnifiers solve this fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 10:01:17 PM 780 Views
Re: I don't see how magnifiers solve this darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 10:16:16 PM 729 Views
Uhhh... fionwe1987 - 22/01/2016 06:51:11 AM 872 Views
Funny, I just saw this post darius_sedai - 17/09/2016 11:13:09 PM 586 Views
The very first chapter (the Prologue) disproves this fionwe1987 - 03/10/2016 06:56:28 AM 669 Views
No it doesn't darius_sedai - 05/10/2016 12:47:03 AM 580 Views
Re: Don't those two facts explain each other? Dunstan - 08/10/2016 05:06:53 AM 456 Views
Re: Yes, but that's not what I'm arguing... Dunstan - 08/10/2016 04:52:06 AM 689 Views
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