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I don't see how magnifiers solve this fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 21/01/2016 10:01:17 PM

If sa'angreal are magnifiers, how are we explaining bufferless ones? Take Callandor. Let's say it magnifies by 100X and you're still safe. So if you overdraw and draw in 200X, aren't you still saying "a lack of a buffer allows access to additional power beyond what the angreal was designed for"??

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Angreal, Sa'angreal and Moiraine at 66 Sidious - 11/01/2016 08:53:23 AM 3557 Views
Or we can choose to assume Elayne is incorrect darius_sedai - 11/01/2016 03:50:14 PM 1591 Views
Uhhh... fionwe1987 - 12/01/2016 12:07:42 AM 1728 Views
Yet there are problems with either darius_sedai - 15/01/2016 08:52:04 PM 1458 Views
Re: Yet there are problems with either Sidious - 16/01/2016 05:29:11 AM 1852 Views
Would you consider... Duke - 17/01/2016 09:06:59 AM 1499 Views
random thought on Shielding darius_sedai - 19/01/2016 07:34:20 PM 1576 Views
You're forgetting the other side, though. fionwe1987 - 19/01/2016 08:19:59 PM 1663 Views
yes but it doesn't proactively do this darius_sedai - 19/01/2016 10:06:25 PM 1515 Views
Responding to a shield doesn't require proactiveness fionwe1987 - 20/01/2016 05:53:24 AM 1434 Views
it's a visualization thing really darius_sedai - 20/01/2016 04:39:08 PM 1463 Views
Not the crux of the debate... fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 03:37:40 AM 1527 Views
Not really though darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 05:00:34 PM 1320 Views
I always explained it as fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 09:26:35 PM 1564 Views
There's not much to go on since all the shields except Berowyn's are the same darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 09:55:14 PM 1458 Views
That's precisely my point fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 10:09:02 PM 1519 Views
now you are speculating based on a lack of evidence darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 10:39:13 PM 1395 Views
There's actual evidence: fionwe1987 - 22/01/2016 06:25:25 AM 1550 Views
what's dense here is that you keep putting in quotes that don't support your position darius_sedai - 22/01/2016 03:28:16 PM 1734 Views
Whoa.. fionwe1987 - 22/01/2016 04:24:19 PM 1572 Views
Not at all darius_sedai - 22/01/2016 05:03:50 PM 1568 Views
Wonderful fionwe1987 - 22/01/2016 06:30:35 PM 1583 Views
yup that's my argument. that and you're a dick so I'm done with this darius_sedai - 22/01/2016 06:46:23 PM 1380 Views
Re: yup that's my argument. that and you're a dick so I'm done with this Sidious - 23/01/2016 02:35:33 PM 1789 Views
Petty much *NM* darius_sedai - 24/01/2016 02:50:32 PM 816 Views
Hmmm.... Sidious - 23/01/2016 03:06:15 PM 1786 Views
Let me clear this up darius_sedai - 25/01/2016 04:19:51 PM 1812 Views
Some more quotes fionwe1987 - 25/01/2016 05:10:51 PM 1561 Views
none of which I've denied or tried to prove otherwise darius_sedai - 25/01/2016 07:19:48 PM 1903 Views
Re: none of which I've denied or tried to prove otherwise fionwe1987 - 26/01/2016 03:45:52 AM 1538 Views
Re: none of which I've denied or tried to prove otherwise Sidious - 26/01/2016 09:00:55 AM 1842 Views
Re: none of which I've denied or tried to prove otherwise fionwe1987 - 26/01/2016 10:39:49 AM 1544 Views
from the very beginning of this conversation I've been saying I'm theorizing darius_sedai - 26/01/2016 04:09:19 PM 1452 Views
Oh well then I agree with you Sidious - 26/01/2016 08:50:55 AM 1785 Views
thanks darius_sedai - 26/01/2016 04:26:46 PM 1793 Views
Yes, but that's not what I'm arguing... fionwe1987 - 16/01/2016 08:56:15 AM 1386 Views
But additive doesn't explain buffers and being able to overdraw darius_sedai - 16/01/2016 03:02:33 PM 1442 Views
Don't those two facts explain each other? fionwe1987 - 16/01/2016 03:24:44 PM 1444 Views
It actually seems counterintuitive to me darius_sedai - 19/01/2016 07:15:37 PM 1363 Views
Simple fionwe1987 - 19/01/2016 08:21:11 PM 1536 Views
Not at all darius_sedai - 19/01/2016 10:17:39 PM 1309 Views
Huh? fionwe1987 - 20/01/2016 06:01:04 AM 1566 Views
agree to disagree I suppose ... I don't see it this way *NM* darius_sedai - 20/01/2016 04:41:16 PM 833 Views
I didn't sense disagreement so much as confusion over my position. *NM* fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 12:01:16 AM 768 Views
Re: I didn't sense disagreement so much as confusion over my position. darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 02:07:21 AM 1388 Views
Re: I didn't sense disagreement so much as confusion over my position. fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 03:32:59 AM 1442 Views
I don't necessarily think that's true darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 05:07:40 PM 1515 Views
I don't see how magnifiers solve this fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 10:01:17 PM 1454 Views
Re: I don't see how magnifiers solve this darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 10:16:16 PM 1448 Views
Uhhh... fionwe1987 - 22/01/2016 06:51:11 AM 1580 Views
Funny, I just saw this post darius_sedai - 17/09/2016 11:13:09 PM 1299 Views
The very first chapter (the Prologue) disproves this fionwe1987 - 03/10/2016 06:56:28 AM 1301 Views
No it doesn't darius_sedai - 05/10/2016 12:47:03 AM 1214 Views
Re: Don't those two facts explain each other? Dunstan - 08/10/2016 05:06:53 AM 1248 Views
Re: Yes, but that's not what I'm arguing... Dunstan - 08/10/2016 04:52:06 AM 1387 Views
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