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The very first chapter (the Prologue) disproves this fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 03/10/2016 06:56:28 AM

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If someone can draw more than this much above their maximum it would seem odd given how many times we've heard about the dangers of overdrawing.

Why? You can overdraw as massively as you want. The constant thing is that you will either be burned out, or straight out die. The best evidence for this is Lews Therin, who, with no angreal or sa'angreal, overdrew enough to create a mountain taller than Everest.

From there, the rest of your argument collapses...

Gonna miss these discussions. Was fun to lay this to bed.

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Angreal, Sa'angreal and Moiraine at 66 Sidious - 11/01/2016 08:53:23 AM 3565 Views
Or we can choose to assume Elayne is incorrect darius_sedai - 11/01/2016 03:50:14 PM 1592 Views
Uhhh... fionwe1987 - 12/01/2016 12:07:42 AM 1734 Views
Yet there are problems with either darius_sedai - 15/01/2016 08:52:04 PM 1459 Views
Re: Yet there are problems with either Sidious - 16/01/2016 05:29:11 AM 1856 Views
Would you consider... Duke - 17/01/2016 09:06:59 AM 1502 Views
random thought on Shielding darius_sedai - 19/01/2016 07:34:20 PM 1577 Views
You're forgetting the other side, though. fionwe1987 - 19/01/2016 08:19:59 PM 1665 Views
yes but it doesn't proactively do this darius_sedai - 19/01/2016 10:06:25 PM 1517 Views
Responding to a shield doesn't require proactiveness fionwe1987 - 20/01/2016 05:53:24 AM 1435 Views
it's a visualization thing really darius_sedai - 20/01/2016 04:39:08 PM 1465 Views
Not the crux of the debate... fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 03:37:40 AM 1536 Views
Not really though darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 05:00:34 PM 1322 Views
I always explained it as fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 09:26:35 PM 1571 Views
There's not much to go on since all the shields except Berowyn's are the same darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 09:55:14 PM 1462 Views
That's precisely my point fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 10:09:02 PM 1523 Views
now you are speculating based on a lack of evidence darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 10:39:13 PM 1398 Views
There's actual evidence: fionwe1987 - 22/01/2016 06:25:25 AM 1552 Views
what's dense here is that you keep putting in quotes that don't support your position darius_sedai - 22/01/2016 03:28:16 PM 1737 Views
Whoa.. fionwe1987 - 22/01/2016 04:24:19 PM 1575 Views
Not at all darius_sedai - 22/01/2016 05:03:50 PM 1574 Views
Wonderful fionwe1987 - 22/01/2016 06:30:35 PM 1585 Views
yup that's my argument. that and you're a dick so I'm done with this darius_sedai - 22/01/2016 06:46:23 PM 1382 Views
Re: yup that's my argument. that and you're a dick so I'm done with this Sidious - 23/01/2016 02:35:33 PM 1794 Views
Petty much *NM* darius_sedai - 24/01/2016 02:50:32 PM 819 Views
Hmmm.... Sidious - 23/01/2016 03:06:15 PM 1791 Views
Let me clear this up darius_sedai - 25/01/2016 04:19:51 PM 1818 Views
Some more quotes fionwe1987 - 25/01/2016 05:10:51 PM 1563 Views
none of which I've denied or tried to prove otherwise darius_sedai - 25/01/2016 07:19:48 PM 1905 Views
Re: none of which I've denied or tried to prove otherwise fionwe1987 - 26/01/2016 03:45:52 AM 1548 Views
Re: none of which I've denied or tried to prove otherwise Sidious - 26/01/2016 09:00:55 AM 1849 Views
Re: none of which I've denied or tried to prove otherwise fionwe1987 - 26/01/2016 10:39:49 AM 1548 Views
from the very beginning of this conversation I've been saying I'm theorizing darius_sedai - 26/01/2016 04:09:19 PM 1455 Views
Oh well then I agree with you Sidious - 26/01/2016 08:50:55 AM 1791 Views
thanks darius_sedai - 26/01/2016 04:26:46 PM 1794 Views
Yes, but that's not what I'm arguing... fionwe1987 - 16/01/2016 08:56:15 AM 1395 Views
But additive doesn't explain buffers and being able to overdraw darius_sedai - 16/01/2016 03:02:33 PM 1444 Views
Don't those two facts explain each other? fionwe1987 - 16/01/2016 03:24:44 PM 1450 Views
It actually seems counterintuitive to me darius_sedai - 19/01/2016 07:15:37 PM 1367 Views
Simple fionwe1987 - 19/01/2016 08:21:11 PM 1538 Views
Not at all darius_sedai - 19/01/2016 10:17:39 PM 1312 Views
Huh? fionwe1987 - 20/01/2016 06:01:04 AM 1569 Views
agree to disagree I suppose ... I don't see it this way *NM* darius_sedai - 20/01/2016 04:41:16 PM 834 Views
I didn't sense disagreement so much as confusion over my position. *NM* fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 12:01:16 AM 770 Views
Re: I didn't sense disagreement so much as confusion over my position. darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 02:07:21 AM 1389 Views
Re: I didn't sense disagreement so much as confusion over my position. fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 03:32:59 AM 1448 Views
I don't necessarily think that's true darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 05:07:40 PM 1518 Views
I don't see how magnifiers solve this fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 10:01:17 PM 1457 Views
Re: I don't see how magnifiers solve this darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 10:16:16 PM 1449 Views
Uhhh... fionwe1987 - 22/01/2016 06:51:11 AM 1585 Views
Funny, I just saw this post darius_sedai - 17/09/2016 11:13:09 PM 1299 Views
The very first chapter (the Prologue) disproves this fionwe1987 - 03/10/2016 06:56:28 AM 1305 Views
No it doesn't darius_sedai - 05/10/2016 12:47:03 AM 1221 Views
Re: Don't those two facts explain each other? Dunstan - 08/10/2016 05:06:53 AM 1253 Views
Re: Yes, but that's not what I'm arguing... Dunstan - 08/10/2016 04:52:06 AM 1390 Views
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