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Re: yet it could take him some undetermined amount of time to figure out your dead? Datakim Send a noteboard - 07/01/2010 01:13:40 AM

does not compute


Well, I admit I was wrong when I started the thread, but just to clarify this particular issue only.

The DO probably realises that you are dead the instant you die. It is just that since balefire causes you to die in the past this does not help.

The point is time is the issue that stops the DO from bringing you back. Balefire does not destroy souls.

If you are interested in further clarification, you can read more quotes from both RJ and BS on this subject here:

http://www.theoryland.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=372
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Rand the psycho? Datakim - 06/01/2010 02:53:30 AM 1940 Views
I cannot follow your assumptions. Fanatic-Templar - 06/01/2010 04:07:33 AM 1406 Views
On Balefire Lord Haart - 06/01/2010 04:43:18 AM 1348 Views
Good point Datakim - 06/01/2010 05:04:26 AM 1387 Views
On the nature of BaleFire Lord Haart - 06/01/2010 03:32:25 PM 1284 Views
Re: I cannot follow your assumptions. Datakim - 06/01/2010 04:59:12 AM 1196 Views
Wait! Datakim - 06/01/2010 05:10:33 AM 1284 Views
Re: Wait! callandor1000 - 06/01/2010 05:20:02 AM 1185 Views
Re: Wait! Datakim - 06/01/2010 05:58:00 AM 1170 Views
Re: Wait! callandor1000 - 06/01/2010 11:46:13 AM 1141 Views
Re: Wait! Datakim - 06/01/2010 03:55:01 PM 1143 Views
I disagree Lord Haart - 06/01/2010 05:42:44 PM 1110 Views
Re: I disagree Datakim - 06/01/2010 06:41:08 PM 1136 Views
Re: I disagree Lord Haart - 07/01/2010 04:42:40 AM 1129 Views
I doubt he meant 'in one go' as a single stream of balefire. Fanatic-Templar - 06/01/2010 07:30:56 AM 1233 Views
Re: I doubt he meant 'in one go' as a single stream of balefire. Datakim - 06/01/2010 03:32:24 PM 1157 Views
Re: I doubt he meant 'in one go' as a single stream of balefire. Fanatic-Templar - 06/01/2010 09:52:47 PM 1245 Views
Re: I doubt he meant 'in one go' as a single stream of balefire. Datakim - 06/01/2010 11:19:56 PM 1198 Views
Re: I doubt he meant 'in one go' as a single stream of balefire. Fanatic-Templar - 07/01/2010 12:21:50 AM 1214 Views
Re: I doubt he meant 'in one go' as a single stream of balefire. Datakim - 07/01/2010 12:56:26 AM 1143 Views
Re: I doubt he meant 'in one go' as a single stream of balefire. Fanatic-Templar - 07/01/2010 01:46:16 AM 1217 Views
I agree with Templar Lord Haart - 09/01/2010 04:36:20 PM 1117 Views
Of course, I agree with you, esp since I just put forth the idea you support earlier in the thread. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 11/01/2010 04:58:26 PM 1658 Views
Re: I cannot follow your assumptions. Fanatic-Templar - 06/01/2010 07:57:54 AM 1237 Views
Rand crossed a line Etzel - 06/01/2010 02:36:42 PM 1242 Views
Re: Rand crossed a line Datakim - 06/01/2010 04:16:12 PM 1190 Views
But... Etzel - 06/01/2010 04:34:02 PM 1266 Views
Re: But... Datakim - 06/01/2010 06:14:25 PM 1082 Views
Doesn't Balefire remove your thread from the Pattern permanently? darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 02:55:38 PM 1269 Views
No, RJ stated balefired people can be reborn. *NM* Etzel - 06/01/2010 03:26:00 PM 605 Views
But not in this turning of the Wheel. So they'd miss out on MANY lifetimes. Lord Haart - 06/01/2010 05:46:04 PM 1145 Views
What? Datakim - 06/01/2010 06:20:56 PM 1143 Views
Where did you get that? Gher - 06/01/2010 07:09:38 PM 1110 Views
No, balefire just kills you backwards in time. It is not super-death. *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 06/01/2010 09:58:18 PM 609 Views
LOL ... super-death! darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 11:59:31 PM 1086 Views
Hah! *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 12:06:07 AM 605 Views
It makes me think of History of the World Part 1 darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 12:53:20 AM 1128 Views
It makes me think of History of the World Part 1 darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 12:53:33 AM 1063 Views
Yes it was. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 06/01/2010 06:51:15 PM 1227 Views
Re: Yes it was. Datakim - 06/01/2010 07:16:14 PM 1198 Views
Re: Yes it was. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 06/01/2010 08:58:40 PM 1179 Views
Re: Yes it was. Datakim - 06/01/2010 10:47:11 PM 1172 Views
let me ask the question in a different way darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 11:26:43 PM 1186 Views
Re: let me ask the question in a different way Datakim - 06/01/2010 11:40:56 PM 1155 Views
actually that quote supports my thoughts darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 11:50:40 PM 1286 Views
Re: actually that quote supports my thoughts Datakim - 07/01/2010 12:10:07 AM 1112 Views
yet it could take him some undetermined amount of time to figure out your dead? darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 12:34:34 AM 1101 Views
Re: yet it could take him some undetermined amount of time to figure out your dead? Datakim - 07/01/2010 01:13:40 AM 1070 Views
Meh. I just think advocating mass-murder is the opposite direction RJ meant for this to take. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 12:00:44 AM 1261 Views
Sigh. What mass murder? Datakim - 07/01/2010 12:15:01 AM 1107 Views
you are kidding right? darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 12:19:58 AM 1164 Views
In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 03:14:32 PM 1130 Views
Re: In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. Datakim - 07/01/2010 03:57:43 PM 1144 Views
Re: In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 07:13:21 PM 1161 Views
Re: In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. Datakim - 07/01/2010 07:52:24 PM 1099 Views
Re: In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 08:56:43 PM 1178 Views
Re: In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. Datakim - 07/01/2010 09:26:01 PM 1139 Views
Re: In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 09:30:45 PM 1060 Views
Personally I'm kind of sick of Rand being the only person killing FS! darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 09:42:57 PM 1208 Views
Re: In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. Datakim - 07/01/2010 09:56:02 PM 1193 Views
OK I'm sorry but this gets a huge ROFL :lol: RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 10:30:19 PM 1203 Views
Re: OK I'm sorry but this gets a huge ROFL :lol: Sidious - 08/01/2010 01:53:25 PM 1100 Views
Re: OK I'm sorry but this gets a huge ROFL :lol: RugbyPlayingAshaman - 08/01/2010 02:56:41 PM 1158 Views
What might work... Etzel - 08/01/2010 12:35:17 PM 1045 Views
Re: What might work... Datakim - 08/01/2010 11:38:09 PM 1069 Views
Yes. Anakin Skywalker all over again Itachi - 06/01/2010 11:01:02 PM 1251 Views
Meh Datakim - 06/01/2010 11:30:24 PM 1102 Views
The worst part about his atrocities is his rationalizing them! darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 11:33:32 PM 1078 Views
Re: The worst part about his atrocities is his rationalizing them! Datakim - 06/01/2010 11:50:37 PM 1181 Views
Re: The worst part about his atrocities is his rationalizing them! darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 11:55:03 PM 1148 Views
I do have to guiltily say, though, that if Rand had balefired the Seanchan and THEN became good... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 12:03:20 AM 1138 Views
*laughs behind hand* darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 12:05:54 AM 1206 Views
Re: The worst part about his atrocities is his rationalizing them! Datakim - 07/01/2010 12:23:11 AM 1062 Views
I don't think Rand or LTT (who has/have) little capacity for Healing darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 12:52:25 AM 1108 Views
Re: I don't think Rand or LTT (who has/have) little capacity for Healing Datakim - 07/01/2010 01:24:32 AM 1199 Views
Re: I don't think Rand or LTT (who has/have) little capacity for Healing darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 03:33:52 PM 1090 Views
Re: I don't think Rand or LTT (who has/have) little capacity for Healing Datakim - 07/01/2010 04:28:18 PM 1256 Views
right cause all Generals are so well versed in medical conditions darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 09:44:09 PM 1206 Views
Nice way to avoid the argument. Datakim - 07/01/2010 10:00:17 PM 1134 Views
I'm just done talking in circles. You seem to think that because people darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 11:53:05 PM 1194 Views
I concede Datakim - 07/01/2010 01:09:11 AM 1092 Views
You weren't wrong overall, but there were some serious flaws in your reasoning. Cannoli - 07/01/2010 02:43:17 AM 1212 Views
Tee hee. Fanatic-Templar - 07/01/2010 05:28:52 AM 1165 Views
Morals are subjective anyhow, Nyrende - 07/01/2010 06:23:09 AM 1157 Views
Re: Morals are subjective anyhow, RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 03:23:59 PM 1111 Views
I have religious beliefs and that is an absurd contention Cannoli - 09/01/2010 12:00:02 AM 1161 Views
Re: I have religious beliefs and that is an absurd contention Lord Haart - 09/01/2010 05:56:16 PM 1349 Views
Re: I have religious beliefs and that is an absurd contention Cannoli - 18/01/2010 01:00:23 PM 1470 Views
Your assertions weaken your overall argument. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 11/01/2010 04:47:10 PM 1046 Views
Re: Your assertions weaken your overall argument. Cannoli - 18/01/2010 12:49:26 PM 1092 Views
You are treating Graendal's "pets" as though they were enemy combatants darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 03:40:03 PM 1209 Views
Like I give a damn what a group of professional killers would do. Cannoli - 08/01/2010 11:39:11 PM 1084 Views
Graendal captured these people as part of the Shadows offensive, Operation Chaos Rules darius_sedai - 09/01/2010 12:00:40 AM 1381 Views
Well, I still liked your first argument. It's a freaking war. The argument ... amirebram - 07/01/2010 07:08:53 PM 1131 Views
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