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Re: yet it could take him some undetermined amount of time to figure out your dead? Datakim Send a noteboard - 07/01/2010 01:13:40 AM

does not compute


Well, I admit I was wrong when I started the thread, but just to clarify this particular issue only.

The DO probably realises that you are dead the instant you die. It is just that since balefire causes you to die in the past this does not help.

The point is time is the issue that stops the DO from bringing you back. Balefire does not destroy souls.

If you are interested in further clarification, you can read more quotes from both RJ and BS on this subject here:

http://www.theoryland.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=372
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Rand the psycho? Datakim - 06/01/2010 02:53:30 AM 1618 Views
I cannot follow your assumptions. Fanatic-Templar - 06/01/2010 04:07:33 AM 1021 Views
On Balefire Lord Haart - 06/01/2010 04:43:18 AM 1016 Views
Good point Datakim - 06/01/2010 05:04:26 AM 1045 Views
On the nature of BaleFire Lord Haart - 06/01/2010 03:32:25 PM 948 Views
Re: I cannot follow your assumptions. Datakim - 06/01/2010 04:59:12 AM 855 Views
Wait! Datakim - 06/01/2010 05:10:33 AM 974 Views
Re: Wait! callandor1000 - 06/01/2010 05:20:02 AM 891 Views
Re: Wait! Datakim - 06/01/2010 05:58:00 AM 858 Views
Re: Wait! callandor1000 - 06/01/2010 11:46:13 AM 807 Views
Re: Wait! Datakim - 06/01/2010 03:55:01 PM 810 Views
I disagree Lord Haart - 06/01/2010 05:42:44 PM 770 Views
Re: I disagree Datakim - 06/01/2010 06:41:08 PM 796 Views
Re: I disagree Lord Haart - 07/01/2010 04:42:40 AM 777 Views
I doubt he meant 'in one go' as a single stream of balefire. Fanatic-Templar - 06/01/2010 07:30:56 AM 932 Views
Re: I doubt he meant 'in one go' as a single stream of balefire. Datakim - 06/01/2010 03:32:24 PM 839 Views
Re: I doubt he meant 'in one go' as a single stream of balefire. Fanatic-Templar - 06/01/2010 09:52:47 PM 902 Views
Re: I doubt he meant 'in one go' as a single stream of balefire. Datakim - 06/01/2010 11:19:56 PM 790 Views
Re: I doubt he meant 'in one go' as a single stream of balefire. Fanatic-Templar - 07/01/2010 12:21:50 AM 883 Views
Re: I doubt he meant 'in one go' as a single stream of balefire. Datakim - 07/01/2010 12:56:26 AM 815 Views
Re: I doubt he meant 'in one go' as a single stream of balefire. Fanatic-Templar - 07/01/2010 01:46:16 AM 854 Views
I agree with Templar Lord Haart - 09/01/2010 04:36:20 PM 800 Views
Of course, I agree with you, esp since I just put forth the idea you support earlier in the thread. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 11/01/2010 04:58:26 PM 1285 Views
Re: I cannot follow your assumptions. Fanatic-Templar - 06/01/2010 07:57:54 AM 911 Views
Rand crossed a line Etzel - 06/01/2010 02:36:42 PM 925 Views
Re: Rand crossed a line Datakim - 06/01/2010 04:16:12 PM 839 Views
But... Etzel - 06/01/2010 04:34:02 PM 948 Views
Re: But... Datakim - 06/01/2010 06:14:25 PM 766 Views
Doesn't Balefire remove your thread from the Pattern permanently? darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 02:55:38 PM 870 Views
No, RJ stated balefired people can be reborn. *NM* Etzel - 06/01/2010 03:26:00 PM 426 Views
But not in this turning of the Wheel. So they'd miss out on MANY lifetimes. Lord Haart - 06/01/2010 05:46:04 PM 830 Views
What? Datakim - 06/01/2010 06:20:56 PM 848 Views
Where did you get that? Gher - 06/01/2010 07:09:38 PM 800 Views
No, balefire just kills you backwards in time. It is not super-death. *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 06/01/2010 09:58:18 PM 459 Views
LOL ... super-death! darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 11:59:31 PM 778 Views
Hah! *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 12:06:07 AM 428 Views
It makes me think of History of the World Part 1 darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 12:53:20 AM 787 Views
It makes me think of History of the World Part 1 darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 12:53:33 AM 760 Views
Yes it was. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 06/01/2010 06:51:15 PM 897 Views
Re: Yes it was. Datakim - 06/01/2010 07:16:14 PM 815 Views
Re: Yes it was. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 06/01/2010 08:58:40 PM 855 Views
Re: Yes it was. Datakim - 06/01/2010 10:47:11 PM 848 Views
let me ask the question in a different way darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 11:26:43 PM 835 Views
Re: let me ask the question in a different way Datakim - 06/01/2010 11:40:56 PM 830 Views
actually that quote supports my thoughts darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 11:50:40 PM 848 Views
Re: actually that quote supports my thoughts Datakim - 07/01/2010 12:10:07 AM 808 Views
yet it could take him some undetermined amount of time to figure out your dead? darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 12:34:34 AM 790 Views
Re: yet it could take him some undetermined amount of time to figure out your dead? Datakim - 07/01/2010 01:13:40 AM 762 Views
Meh. I just think advocating mass-murder is the opposite direction RJ meant for this to take. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 12:00:44 AM 865 Views
Sigh. What mass murder? Datakim - 07/01/2010 12:15:01 AM 751 Views
you are kidding right? darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 12:19:58 AM 842 Views
In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 03:14:32 PM 822 Views
Re: In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. Datakim - 07/01/2010 03:57:43 PM 830 Views
Re: In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 07:13:21 PM 843 Views
Re: In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. Datakim - 07/01/2010 07:52:24 PM 788 Views
Re: In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 08:56:43 PM 857 Views
Re: In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. Datakim - 07/01/2010 09:26:01 PM 786 Views
Re: In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 09:30:45 PM 730 Views
Personally I'm kind of sick of Rand being the only person killing FS! darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 09:42:57 PM 908 Views
Re: In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. Datakim - 07/01/2010 09:56:02 PM 844 Views
OK I'm sorry but this gets a huge ROFL :lol: RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 10:30:19 PM 826 Views
Re: OK I'm sorry but this gets a huge ROFL :lol: Sidious - 08/01/2010 01:53:25 PM 777 Views
Re: OK I'm sorry but this gets a huge ROFL :lol: RugbyPlayingAshaman - 08/01/2010 02:56:41 PM 832 Views
What might work... Etzel - 08/01/2010 12:35:17 PM 744 Views
Re: What might work... Datakim - 08/01/2010 11:38:09 PM 765 Views
Yes. Anakin Skywalker all over again Itachi - 06/01/2010 11:01:02 PM 921 Views
Meh Datakim - 06/01/2010 11:30:24 PM 763 Views
The worst part about his atrocities is his rationalizing them! darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 11:33:32 PM 771 Views
Re: The worst part about his atrocities is his rationalizing them! Datakim - 06/01/2010 11:50:37 PM 847 Views
Re: The worst part about his atrocities is his rationalizing them! darius_sedai - 06/01/2010 11:55:03 PM 792 Views
I do have to guiltily say, though, that if Rand had balefired the Seanchan and THEN became good... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 12:03:20 AM 825 Views
*laughs behind hand* darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 12:05:54 AM 902 Views
Re: The worst part about his atrocities is his rationalizing them! Datakim - 07/01/2010 12:23:11 AM 771 Views
I don't think Rand or LTT (who has/have) little capacity for Healing darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 12:52:25 AM 776 Views
Re: I don't think Rand or LTT (who has/have) little capacity for Healing Datakim - 07/01/2010 01:24:32 AM 838 Views
Re: I don't think Rand or LTT (who has/have) little capacity for Healing darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 03:33:52 PM 780 Views
Re: I don't think Rand or LTT (who has/have) little capacity for Healing Datakim - 07/01/2010 04:28:18 PM 924 Views
right cause all Generals are so well versed in medical conditions darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 09:44:09 PM 880 Views
Nice way to avoid the argument. Datakim - 07/01/2010 10:00:17 PM 830 Views
I'm just done talking in circles. You seem to think that because people darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 11:53:05 PM 863 Views
I concede Datakim - 07/01/2010 01:09:11 AM 758 Views
You weren't wrong overall, but there were some serious flaws in your reasoning. Cannoli - 07/01/2010 02:43:17 AM 868 Views
Tee hee. Fanatic-Templar - 07/01/2010 05:28:52 AM 819 Views
Morals are subjective anyhow, Nyrende - 07/01/2010 06:23:09 AM 847 Views
Re: Morals are subjective anyhow, RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/01/2010 03:23:59 PM 774 Views
I have religious beliefs and that is an absurd contention Cannoli - 09/01/2010 12:00:02 AM 854 Views
Re: I have religious beliefs and that is an absurd contention Lord Haart - 09/01/2010 05:56:16 PM 1011 Views
Re: I have religious beliefs and that is an absurd contention Cannoli - 18/01/2010 01:00:23 PM 1138 Views
Your assertions weaken your overall argument. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 11/01/2010 04:47:10 PM 741 Views
Re: Your assertions weaken your overall argument. Cannoli - 18/01/2010 12:49:26 PM 784 Views
You are treating Graendal's "pets" as though they were enemy combatants darius_sedai - 07/01/2010 03:40:03 PM 856 Views
Like I give a damn what a group of professional killers would do. Cannoli - 08/01/2010 11:39:11 PM 768 Views
Graendal captured these people as part of the Shadows offensive, Operation Chaos Rules darius_sedai - 09/01/2010 12:00:40 AM 1079 Views
Well, I still liked your first argument. It's a freaking war. The argument ... amirebram - 07/01/2010 07:08:53 PM 805 Views
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