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Re: In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. Datakim Send a noteboard - 07/01/2010 03:57:43 PM
What I would prefer him to do was confront her and balefire her personally. He should have defeated her like he did other "smart" opponents.


If I understood the scene correctly, the whole point here was that LTT/Rand knew that unlike Rahvin or Sammael or the like who were arrogant and such, Graendal would never face Rand in a direct fight.

Using your idea, the moment Rand attacked the palace, Graendal would open a gateway and flee away, avoiding the battle entirely.

That is why Rand did what he did. Because it was the only way to take out the slippery Graendal. Direct confrontation would simply not have been possible with Graendal since she would always have easily escaped with traveling.

The only way what you suggest is possible, if Rand could have somehow warded the area in such a way that Graendal could not open a gateway to escape. However I don't think Rand knew this technique yet. So it was either balefire the whole place, or let Graendal escape. Those were sadly, the only two possible options.
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Rand the psycho? - 06/01/2010 02:53:30 AM 1619 Views
I cannot follow your assumptions. - 06/01/2010 04:07:33 AM 1021 Views
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I doubt he meant 'in one go' as a single stream of balefire. - 06/01/2010 07:30:56 AM 932 Views
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But... - 06/01/2010 04:34:02 PM 950 Views
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No, RJ stated balefired people can be reborn. *NM* - 06/01/2010 03:26:00 PM 427 Views
But not in this turning of the Wheel. So they'd miss out on MANY lifetimes. - 06/01/2010 05:46:04 PM 830 Views
What? - 06/01/2010 06:20:56 PM 848 Views
Where did you get that? - 06/01/2010 07:09:38 PM 800 Views
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actually that quote supports my thoughts - 06/01/2010 11:50:40 PM 850 Views
Re: actually that quote supports my thoughts - 07/01/2010 12:10:07 AM 809 Views
Meh. I just think advocating mass-murder is the opposite direction RJ meant for this to take. - 07/01/2010 12:00:44 AM 866 Views
Sigh. What mass murder? - 07/01/2010 12:15:01 AM 751 Views
you are kidding right? - 07/01/2010 12:19:58 AM 843 Views
In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. - 07/01/2010 03:14:32 PM 822 Views
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Re: In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. - 07/01/2010 08:56:43 PM 857 Views
Re: In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. - 07/01/2010 09:26:01 PM 786 Views
Re: In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. - 07/01/2010 09:30:45 PM 730 Views
Personally I'm kind of sick of Rand being the only person killing FS! - 07/01/2010 09:42:57 PM 909 Views
Re: In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. - 07/01/2010 09:56:02 PM 844 Views
OK I'm sorry but this gets a huge ROFL :lol: - 07/01/2010 10:30:19 PM 827 Views
Re: OK I'm sorry but this gets a huge ROFL :lol: - 08/01/2010 01:53:25 PM 778 Views
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What might work... - 08/01/2010 12:35:17 PM 744 Views
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Yes. Anakin Skywalker all over again - 06/01/2010 11:01:02 PM 921 Views
Meh - 06/01/2010 11:30:24 PM 763 Views
The worst part about his atrocities is his rationalizing them! - 06/01/2010 11:33:32 PM 772 Views
Re: The worst part about his atrocities is his rationalizing them! - 06/01/2010 11:50:37 PM 847 Views
Re: The worst part about his atrocities is his rationalizing them! - 06/01/2010 11:55:03 PM 793 Views
I do have to guiltily say, though, that if Rand had balefired the Seanchan and THEN became good... - 07/01/2010 12:03:20 AM 825 Views
*laughs behind hand* - 07/01/2010 12:05:54 AM 902 Views
Re: The worst part about his atrocities is his rationalizing them! - 07/01/2010 12:23:11 AM 771 Views
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right cause all Generals are so well versed in medical conditions - 07/01/2010 09:44:09 PM 880 Views
Nice way to avoid the argument. - 07/01/2010 10:00:17 PM 830 Views
I'm just done talking in circles. You seem to think that because people - 07/01/2010 11:53:05 PM 863 Views
I concede - 07/01/2010 01:09:11 AM 759 Views
You weren't wrong overall, but there were some serious flaws in your reasoning. - 07/01/2010 02:43:17 AM 868 Views
Tee hee. - 07/01/2010 05:28:52 AM 819 Views
Morals are subjective anyhow, - 07/01/2010 06:23:09 AM 847 Views
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I have religious beliefs and that is an absurd contention - 09/01/2010 12:00:02 AM 854 Views
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Your assertions weaken your overall argument. - 11/01/2010 04:47:10 PM 742 Views
Re: Your assertions weaken your overall argument. - 18/01/2010 12:49:26 PM 784 Views

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