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Re: In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. Datakim Send a noteboard - 07/01/2010 03:57:43 PM
What I would prefer him to do was confront her and balefire her personally. He should have defeated her like he did other "smart" opponents.


If I understood the scene correctly, the whole point here was that LTT/Rand knew that unlike Rahvin or Sammael or the like who were arrogant and such, Graendal would never face Rand in a direct fight.

Using your idea, the moment Rand attacked the palace, Graendal would open a gateway and flee away, avoiding the battle entirely.

That is why Rand did what he did. Because it was the only way to take out the slippery Graendal. Direct confrontation would simply not have been possible with Graendal since she would always have easily escaped with traveling.

The only way what you suggest is possible, if Rand could have somehow warded the area in such a way that Graendal could not open a gateway to escape. However I don't think Rand knew this technique yet. So it was either balefire the whole place, or let Graendal escape. Those were sadly, the only two possible options.
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Rand the psycho? - 06/01/2010 02:53:30 AM 1837 Views
I cannot follow your assumptions. - 06/01/2010 04:07:33 AM 1246 Views
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I doubt he meant 'in one go' as a single stream of balefire. - 06/01/2010 07:30:56 AM 1122 Views
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Re: I doubt he meant 'in one go' as a single stream of balefire. - 07/01/2010 01:46:16 AM 1099 Views
I agree with Templar - 09/01/2010 04:36:20 PM 997 Views
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Rand crossed a line - 06/01/2010 02:36:42 PM 1126 Views
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But... - 06/01/2010 04:34:02 PM 1161 Views
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Doesn't Balefire remove your thread from the Pattern permanently? - 06/01/2010 02:55:38 PM 1116 Views
No, RJ stated balefired people can be reborn. *NM* - 06/01/2010 03:26:00 PM 542 Views
But not in this turning of the Wheel. So they'd miss out on MANY lifetimes. - 06/01/2010 05:46:04 PM 1025 Views
What? - 06/01/2010 06:20:56 PM 1037 Views
Where did you get that? - 06/01/2010 07:09:38 PM 999 Views
No, balefire just kills you backwards in time. It is not super-death. *NM* - 06/01/2010 09:58:18 PM 549 Views
LOL ... super-death! - 06/01/2010 11:59:31 PM 966 Views
Hah! *NM* - 07/01/2010 12:06:07 AM 542 Views
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It makes me think of History of the World Part 1 - 07/01/2010 12:53:33 AM 956 Views
Yes it was. - 06/01/2010 06:51:15 PM 1105 Views
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let me ask the question in a different way - 06/01/2010 11:26:43 PM 1063 Views
Re: let me ask the question in a different way - 06/01/2010 11:40:56 PM 1042 Views
actually that quote supports my thoughts - 06/01/2010 11:50:40 PM 1125 Views
Re: actually that quote supports my thoughts - 07/01/2010 12:10:07 AM 993 Views
Meh. I just think advocating mass-murder is the opposite direction RJ meant for this to take. - 07/01/2010 12:00:44 AM 1100 Views
Sigh. What mass murder? - 07/01/2010 12:15:01 AM 943 Views
you are kidding right? - 07/01/2010 12:19:58 AM 1045 Views
In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. - 07/01/2010 03:14:32 PM 1021 Views
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Re: In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. - 07/01/2010 07:52:24 PM 971 Views
Re: In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. - 07/01/2010 08:56:43 PM 1061 Views
Re: In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. - 07/01/2010 09:26:01 PM 1026 Views
Re: In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. - 07/01/2010 09:30:45 PM 943 Views
Personally I'm kind of sick of Rand being the only person killing FS! - 07/01/2010 09:42:57 PM 1097 Views
Re: In this book Rand was a wimp and a bully. - 07/01/2010 09:56:02 PM 1067 Views
OK I'm sorry but this gets a huge ROFL :lol: - 07/01/2010 10:30:19 PM 1071 Views
Re: OK I'm sorry but this gets a huge ROFL :lol: - 08/01/2010 01:53:25 PM 999 Views
Re: OK I'm sorry but this gets a huge ROFL :lol: - 08/01/2010 02:56:41 PM 1031 Views
What might work... - 08/01/2010 12:35:17 PM 938 Views
Re: What might work... - 08/01/2010 11:38:09 PM 959 Views
Yes. Anakin Skywalker all over again - 06/01/2010 11:01:02 PM 1136 Views
Meh - 06/01/2010 11:30:24 PM 962 Views
The worst part about his atrocities is his rationalizing them! - 06/01/2010 11:33:32 PM 968 Views
Re: The worst part about his atrocities is his rationalizing them! - 06/01/2010 11:50:37 PM 1068 Views
Re: The worst part about his atrocities is his rationalizing them! - 06/01/2010 11:55:03 PM 1027 Views
I do have to guiltily say, though, that if Rand had balefired the Seanchan and THEN became good... - 07/01/2010 12:03:20 AM 1024 Views
*laughs behind hand* - 07/01/2010 12:05:54 AM 1098 Views
Re: The worst part about his atrocities is his rationalizing them! - 07/01/2010 12:23:11 AM 948 Views
I don't think Rand or LTT (who has/have) little capacity for Healing - 07/01/2010 12:52:25 AM 993 Views
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right cause all Generals are so well versed in medical conditions - 07/01/2010 09:44:09 PM 1096 Views
Nice way to avoid the argument. - 07/01/2010 10:00:17 PM 1032 Views
I'm just done talking in circles. You seem to think that because people - 07/01/2010 11:53:05 PM 1056 Views
I concede - 07/01/2010 01:09:11 AM 967 Views
You weren't wrong overall, but there were some serious flaws in your reasoning. - 07/01/2010 02:43:17 AM 1092 Views
Tee hee. - 07/01/2010 05:28:52 AM 1035 Views
Morals are subjective anyhow, - 07/01/2010 06:23:09 AM 1040 Views
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I have religious beliefs and that is an absurd contention - 09/01/2010 12:00:02 AM 1048 Views
Re: I have religious beliefs and that is an absurd contention - 09/01/2010 05:56:16 PM 1233 Views
Re: I have religious beliefs and that is an absurd contention - 18/01/2010 01:00:23 PM 1359 Views
Your assertions weaken your overall argument. - 11/01/2010 04:47:10 PM 940 Views
Re: Your assertions weaken your overall argument. - 18/01/2010 12:49:26 PM 974 Views

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