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your own argument is self defeating car'a'aman Send a noteboard - 11/03/2010 08:10:36 AM
your logic breaks down. You say the Creator trapped Shaitan and then built a wheel with infinite time backwards and forwards, but Shaitan was imprisoned only at a particular point and therefore can't have had infinite tries to break free.

Here is what's wrong, if Shaitan was imprisoned at a particular point, but the wheel had turned infinitely backwards and forwards, that means that before the point of imprisonment, the Dark One was free while the wheel was turning!!!

I clearly stated in my earlier post why I was likening the DO to a superhuman child. It was only because compared to the Creator, he is far less powerful at this point because he is constrained within time. I agree the DO is equal to the Creator, but in status quo, since he is trapped, if we neglect all other aspects, the DO is the same as a superhuman child.

What happened was this, the Creator and the DO existed outside of time. Then they had a fight, creator made world, trapped DO within it, then made the wheel infinite in both directions. So it is as if the DO has had infinite chances to break free.
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