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Titles Werthead Send a noteboard - 18/09/2009 04:15:24 AM
We got half of a book when he published A Feast for Crows. He gutted half of the plotlines and saved the rest for a second book that is now taking the name of what was supposed to be the last book in the series. The book that was originally going to be A Dance With Dragons is now one or more books with no title as of yet.


ADWD was never the title of the last book in the series. The last book was for a long time called The Winds of Winter (which is now Book 6) before he realised there was no way that was going to fit into one book so split it in two, with the final book in the series now having the working title A Dream of Spring.

The 'current' ADWD is also pretty much the same book the 'original' ADWD was supposed to be, which is why the name hasn't changed. It just has a few extra chapters inherited from the original, pre-split AFFC featuring the characters in the aftermath of ASoS before moving onto the next major plot point.

I'm sure Tor is bitching him out


What does Tor have to do with ASoIaF?
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Now I understand why everyone has been bitching about a Dance of Dragons.... DREWRULESWOT! - 18/09/2009 12:36:21 AM 1204 Views
Welcome my son....welcome to the machine...... *NM* Animosity - 18/09/2009 03:06:36 AM 374 Views
lol Nice. *NM* Joker - 20/09/2009 12:28:08 AM 331 Views
It's not just that. He split A Feast for Crows into two. Tom - 18/09/2009 03:10:35 AM 501 Views
Re: It's not just that. He split A Feast for Crows into two. *NM* DREWRULESWOT! - 18/09/2009 04:04:06 AM 410 Views
Titles Werthead - 18/09/2009 04:15:24 AM 470 Views
Ok, Martin is published by Bantam...replace "Tor" with "Bantam" Tom - 18/09/2009 05:43:51 PM 490 Views
Nope, still doesn't work. Werthead - 18/09/2009 08:49:09 PM 463 Views
I would recommend you re-read my post - you're confusing me with someone else Tom - 18/09/2009 10:24:24 PM 427 Views
Re: Nope, still doesn't work. imlad - 18/09/2009 10:46:59 PM 355 Views
Is this the thread in which you'll FINALLY reveal... Joker - 20/09/2009 12:31:49 AM 385 Views
Remember what The Neil said: "GRRM is not your bitch!" *NM* Artsapat - 18/09/2009 07:32:47 AM 375 Views
I don't give a shit what Neil Gaiman thinks Tom - 18/09/2009 05:35:54 PM 383 Views
Gaiman = The Most Overrated Author of the New Milennium. *NM* Joker - 20/09/2009 12:33:10 AM 350 Views
In your opinion, of course. *NM* IndigoAjah - 20/09/2009 01:28:33 AM 341 Views
Yes, and this entire thread deals with opinions. Tom - 20/09/2009 01:52:21 AM 336 Views
I see the reason in that. IndigoAjah - 20/09/2009 02:13:46 AM 521 Views
I haven't even finished reading A Clash of Kings and I'm a touch annoyed by Martin already Brian - 20/09/2009 02:35:32 AM 449 Views
He might be a good comic book author, I don't know Tom - 20/09/2009 03:05:15 AM 402 Views
I see where there might be a misunderstanding. Werthead - 20/09/2009 03:05:24 AM 455 Views
You're the man, Wert. Joker - 20/09/2009 03:29:41 AM 433 Views
I can see my rule of not reading series that have not been finished is paying off. Camilla - 18/09/2009 11:00:37 AM 367 Views
Still ruling WOT, I see. How's that going? *NM* Craig - 18/09/2009 03:26:15 AM 323 Views
Very well, thanks DREWRULESWOT! - 18/09/2009 04:05:16 AM 403 Views
One thing I got to say about Robert Jordan... Crackbrained Asha'man - 18/09/2009 03:40:20 AM 506 Views
Sometimes ... Nate - 18/09/2009 05:07:18 AM 427 Views
I agree! heartbreak - 18/09/2009 01:39:04 PM 418 Views
Sometimes...Neil Gaiman should be thrown into a meat grinder. Tom - 18/09/2009 05:49:56 PM 464 Views
You paid for a product. You got a product. That is the end of the matter in its entirety. Werthead - 18/09/2009 09:03:05 PM 423 Views
Was this well out of line, by any chance? Tom - 18/09/2009 10:25:57 PM 460 Views
damn you are rude *NM* imlad - 18/09/2009 10:51:19 PM 334 Views
Gosh. This is pretty tiring. Tom - 18/09/2009 11:25:51 PM 477 Views
So this guy still hasn't been banned yet, why exactly? Werthead - 19/09/2009 04:13:05 PM 431 Views
For several reasons. *NM* Ghavrel - 19/09/2009 10:15:38 PM 319 Views
Get off your high horse. Someone disagrees with you. Deal with it. *NM* Joker - 20/09/2009 12:35:24 AM 323 Views
No, this guy is breaching the forum rules on attacks and insults. Werthead - 20/09/2009 02:57:20 AM 368 Views
What would you call a good start? Chas - 20/09/2009 03:25:46 AM 353 Views
Oh please. Grow some thicker skin. Joker - 20/09/2009 03:26:33 AM 366 Views
You think this behaviour would have been tolerated on Wotmania? It definitely would not have been. Werthead - 20/09/2009 03:31:20 AM 395 Views
That is factually incorrect. *NM* Chas - 20/09/2009 03:38:06 AM 324 Views
"It" would have been. "It" was. Ghavrel - 20/09/2009 05:45:14 AM 400 Views
Depends on which section of wotmania you're thinking about Larry - 20/09/2009 06:54:00 AM 395 Views
Precisely. *NM* Craig - 20/09/2009 07:30:12 AM 320 Views
I half agree... fionwe1987 - 20/09/2009 04:35:22 AM 384 Views
What's with the ad hominems, Tom? Larry - 20/09/2009 06:57:33 AM 361 Views
Nope, I'm someone simply a hell of a lot better informed about the situation then you. Deal with it. *NM* Werthead - 19/09/2009 02:40:07 AM 350 Views
"Than", not "then". Learn English while you're at it. *NM* Tom - 20/09/2009 01:47:56 AM 346 Views
Irony overdose. Again. Tashmere - 19/09/2009 06:28:49 AM 367 Views
WTF? Tom - 20/09/2009 01:49:23 AM 411 Views
fionwe1987 - 20/09/2009 03:00:53 AM 403 Views
I'd agree with you except for the fact that there was the 'promise'. *NM* Chas - 19/09/2009 05:59:21 PM 280 Views
that would be very counter productive imlad - 18/09/2009 10:50:01 PM 356 Views
Depends on what you want. Tom - 18/09/2009 11:26:54 PM 350 Views
Gaiman would just turn the episode into an amazing graphic novel as he died. *NM* IndigoAjah - 19/09/2009 01:06:30 PM 346 Views
That's the most valid point of the argument. Chas - 18/09/2009 11:54:26 PM 400 Views
Agreed. Werthead - 19/09/2009 03:02:48 AM 382 Views
Now to me that supports Tom's point about 'reliance theory'. Chas - 19/09/2009 05:55:28 PM 402 Views
But a promise was never made. Werthead - 19/09/2009 06:04:55 PM 393 Views
I think we're hung up on the definition of "promise." Craig - 19/09/2009 07:14:30 PM 364 Views
Who is GGK and where is his article? + my opinion on Martin Asharak - 19/09/2009 07:55:01 PM 408 Views
This is where the great divide comes into play Werthead - 19/09/2009 08:10:09 PM 391 Views
I think he should take a page out of RJ's book fionwe1987 - 19/09/2009 08:36:55 PM 426 Views
Excellent point. Werthead - 19/09/2009 10:09:36 PM 376 Views
Re: Excellent point. fionwe1987 - 20/09/2009 12:21:21 AM 395 Views
That would be the best policy. *NM* Chas - 19/09/2009 11:23:48 PM 299 Views
Re: Who is GGK and where is his article? + my opinion on Martin Chas - 19/09/2009 11:22:25 PM 444 Views
Re: I think we're hung up on the definition of "promise." Werthead - 19/09/2009 08:04:53 PM 371 Views
Exceptions prove the rule... Craig - 19/09/2009 08:42:39 PM 355 Views
Re: Exceptions prove the rule... Werthead - 19/09/2009 10:00:35 PM 352 Views
I think we're winding down here. Craig - 20/09/2009 07:41:15 AM 345 Views
Yeah. Chas - 19/09/2009 11:27:04 PM 408 Views
Don't mind me, I just can't post in the right place. *NM* Craig - 19/09/2009 07:13:25 PM 354 Views
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