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Ok, Martin is published by Bantam...replace "Tor" with "Bantam" Tom Send a noteboard - 18/09/2009 05:43:51 PM
We still got half a book. No Jon Snow, no Dany, no Tyrion. Let's face it, any book without the Wall and the North is just...robbed of its Song of Ice and Fire-ness.

The simple fact is that I'm just not all that interested in the Martin series after A Feast for Crows and the extraordinarily long lag between books, which for a series is not good.

Martin doesn't have an obligation to get the books out, but as he drags this out the readers have less interest in buying them. Sales for games and related merchandise will drop as well.

Of course, he might get the next book out before Brandon Sanderson finishes the Jordan series and it might be great. Right about now, though, there are a lot of disillusioned fans losing interest. It doesn't matter what the books were "technically" always going to be called.

Political correctness is the pettiest form of casuistry.

ἡ δὲ κἀκ τριῶν τρυπημάτων ἐργαζομένη ἐνεκάλει τῇ φύσει, δυσφορουμένη, ὅτι δὴ μὴ καὶ τοὺς τιτθοὺς αὐτῇ εὐρύτερον ἢ νῦν εἰσι τρυπώη, ὅπως καὶ ἄλλην ἐνταῦθα μίξιν ἐπιτεχνᾶσθαι δυνατὴ εἴη. – Procopius

Ummaka qinnassa nīk!

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Now I understand why everyone has been bitching about a Dance of Dragons.... DREWRULESWOT! - 18/09/2009 12:36:21 AM 1311 Views
Welcome my son....welcome to the machine...... *NM* Animosity - 18/09/2009 03:06:36 AM 471 Views
lol Nice. *NM* Joker - 20/09/2009 12:28:08 AM 461 Views
It's not just that. He split A Feast for Crows into two. Tom - 18/09/2009 03:10:35 AM 600 Views
Re: It's not just that. He split A Feast for Crows into two. *NM* DREWRULESWOT! - 18/09/2009 04:04:06 AM 508 Views
Titles Werthead - 18/09/2009 04:15:24 AM 559 Views
Ok, Martin is published by Bantam...replace "Tor" with "Bantam" Tom - 18/09/2009 05:43:51 PM 605 Views
Nope, still doesn't work. Werthead - 18/09/2009 08:49:09 PM 583 Views
I would recommend you re-read my post - you're confusing me with someone else Tom - 18/09/2009 10:24:24 PM 531 Views
Re: Nope, still doesn't work. imlad - 18/09/2009 10:46:59 PM 450 Views
Is this the thread in which you'll FINALLY reveal... Joker - 20/09/2009 12:31:49 AM 481 Views
Remember what The Neil said: "GRRM is not your bitch!" *NM* Artsapat - 18/09/2009 07:32:47 AM 522 Views
I don't give a shit what Neil Gaiman thinks Tom - 18/09/2009 05:35:54 PM 475 Views
Gaiman = The Most Overrated Author of the New Milennium. *NM* Joker - 20/09/2009 12:33:10 AM 446 Views
In your opinion, of course. *NM* IndigoAjah - 20/09/2009 01:28:33 AM 454 Views
Yes, and this entire thread deals with opinions. Tom - 20/09/2009 01:52:21 AM 426 Views
I see the reason in that. IndigoAjah - 20/09/2009 02:13:46 AM 628 Views
I haven't even finished reading A Clash of Kings and I'm a touch annoyed by Martin already Brian - 20/09/2009 02:35:32 AM 543 Views
He might be a good comic book author, I don't know Tom - 20/09/2009 03:05:15 AM 503 Views
I see where there might be a misunderstanding. Werthead - 20/09/2009 03:05:24 AM 549 Views
You're the man, Wert. Joker - 20/09/2009 03:29:41 AM 532 Views
I can see my rule of not reading series that have not been finished is paying off. Camilla - 18/09/2009 11:00:37 AM 461 Views
Still ruling WOT, I see. How's that going? *NM* Craig - 18/09/2009 03:26:15 AM 425 Views
Very well, thanks DREWRULESWOT! - 18/09/2009 04:05:16 AM 501 Views
One thing I got to say about Robert Jordan... Crackbrained Asha'man - 18/09/2009 03:40:20 AM 610 Views
Sometimes ... Nate - 18/09/2009 05:07:18 AM 531 Views
I agree! heartbreak - 18/09/2009 01:39:04 PM 511 Views
Sometimes...Neil Gaiman should be thrown into a meat grinder. Tom - 18/09/2009 05:49:56 PM 587 Views
You paid for a product. You got a product. That is the end of the matter in its entirety. Werthead - 18/09/2009 09:03:05 PM 531 Views
Was this well out of line, by any chance? Tom - 18/09/2009 10:25:57 PM 560 Views
damn you are rude *NM* imlad - 18/09/2009 10:51:19 PM 441 Views
Gosh. This is pretty tiring. Tom - 18/09/2009 11:25:51 PM 623 Views
So this guy still hasn't been banned yet, why exactly? Werthead - 19/09/2009 04:13:05 PM 557 Views
For several reasons. *NM* Ghavrel - 19/09/2009 10:15:38 PM 418 Views
Get off your high horse. Someone disagrees with you. Deal with it. *NM* Joker - 20/09/2009 12:35:24 AM 476 Views
No, this guy is breaching the forum rules on attacks and insults. Werthead - 20/09/2009 02:57:20 AM 486 Views
What would you call a good start? Chas - 20/09/2009 03:25:46 AM 473 Views
Oh please. Grow some thicker skin. Joker - 20/09/2009 03:26:33 AM 466 Views
You think this behaviour would have been tolerated on Wotmania? It definitely would not have been. Werthead - 20/09/2009 03:31:20 AM 509 Views
That is factually incorrect. *NM* Chas - 20/09/2009 03:38:06 AM 414 Views
"It" would have been. "It" was. Ghavrel - 20/09/2009 05:45:14 AM 495 Views
Depends on which section of wotmania you're thinking about Larry - 20/09/2009 06:54:00 AM 501 Views
Precisely. *NM* Craig - 20/09/2009 07:30:12 AM 418 Views
I half agree... fionwe1987 - 20/09/2009 04:35:22 AM 482 Views
What's with the ad hominems, Tom? Larry - 20/09/2009 06:57:33 AM 456 Views
Nope, I'm someone simply a hell of a lot better informed about the situation then you. Deal with it. *NM* Werthead - 19/09/2009 02:40:07 AM 449 Views
"Than", not "then". Learn English while you're at it. *NM* Tom - 20/09/2009 01:47:56 AM 445 Views
Irony overdose. Again. Tashmere - 19/09/2009 06:28:49 AM 482 Views
WTF? Tom - 20/09/2009 01:49:23 AM 514 Views
fionwe1987 - 20/09/2009 03:00:53 AM 512 Views
I'd agree with you except for the fact that there was the 'promise'. *NM* Chas - 19/09/2009 05:59:21 PM 399 Views
that would be very counter productive imlad - 18/09/2009 10:50:01 PM 454 Views
Depends on what you want. Tom - 18/09/2009 11:26:54 PM 443 Views
Gaiman would just turn the episode into an amazing graphic novel as he died. *NM* IndigoAjah - 19/09/2009 01:06:30 PM 460 Views
That's the most valid point of the argument. Chas - 18/09/2009 11:54:26 PM 507 Views
Agreed. Werthead - 19/09/2009 03:02:48 AM 488 Views
Now to me that supports Tom's point about 'reliance theory'. Chas - 19/09/2009 05:55:28 PM 497 Views
But a promise was never made. Werthead - 19/09/2009 06:04:55 PM 484 Views
I think we're hung up on the definition of "promise." Craig - 19/09/2009 07:14:30 PM 459 Views
Who is GGK and where is his article? + my opinion on Martin Asharak - 19/09/2009 07:55:01 PM 513 Views
This is where the great divide comes into play Werthead - 19/09/2009 08:10:09 PM 486 Views
I think he should take a page out of RJ's book fionwe1987 - 19/09/2009 08:36:55 PM 522 Views
Excellent point. Werthead - 19/09/2009 10:09:36 PM 615 Views
Re: Excellent point. fionwe1987 - 20/09/2009 12:21:21 AM 504 Views
That would be the best policy. *NM* Chas - 19/09/2009 11:23:48 PM 406 Views
Re: Who is GGK and where is his article? + my opinion on Martin Chas - 19/09/2009 11:22:25 PM 548 Views
Re: I think we're hung up on the definition of "promise." Werthead - 19/09/2009 08:04:53 PM 483 Views
Exceptions prove the rule... Craig - 19/09/2009 08:42:39 PM 462 Views
Re: Exceptions prove the rule... Werthead - 19/09/2009 10:00:35 PM 480 Views
I think we're winding down here. Craig - 20/09/2009 07:41:15 AM 478 Views
Yeah. Chas - 19/09/2009 11:27:04 PM 506 Views
Don't mind me, I just can't post in the right place. *NM* Craig - 19/09/2009 07:13:25 PM 454 Views
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