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I would recommend you re-read my post - you're confusing me with someone else Tom Send a noteboard - 18/09/2009 10:24:24 PM
1. I was hoping Tor (read: Bantam) is putting pressure on Martin. I see that sadly, this is not the case.

2. I said that I had lost interest in the series, and honestly I know a lot of other people who have likewise lost interest in the series. That translates into lower revenue. All of this is true - I stated my opinion, the opinions of my friends and the market effect of that sentiment. Citing Wheel of Time does not really help your argument, either. Look at the general consensus on Crossroads of Twilight - the fan base was drifting. If Jordan had not started to wrap things up with Knife of Dreams the fan base would have been lost. I never said it had reached a critical mass, only that Martin would do well to remember his promises.

3. Martin has a pilot with HBO - are you aware of something I'm not? Did they already sign for a full season?

4. The entirety of the statement "your whole post was about how ADWD was going to be pointless, and nothing in it of any importance was going to happen because those events have been pushed back to a later book" is completely wrong. I never said anything remotely like that.

In fact, to summarize, I simply said (a) A Feast for Crows was bad because the good character lines were missing, (b) the book that was originally designated A Dance With Dragons is a different book as a result, (c) I'm not happy, other people aren't happy and the result on the market could be negative, and (d) this series could drag out for years and years.

Absolutely none of the above are "fictitious points". So I'll just ignore the rest of your obnoxious petty douchebag last paragraph.

Political correctness is the pettiest form of casuistry.

ἡ δὲ κἀκ τριῶν τρυπημάτων ἐργαζομένη ἐνεκάλει τῇ φύσει, δυσφορουμένη, ὅτι δὴ μὴ καὶ τοὺς τιτθοὺς αὐτῇ εὐρύτερον ἢ νῦν εἰσι τρυπώη, ὅπως καὶ ἄλλην ἐνταῦθα μίξιν ἐπιτεχνᾶσθαι δυνατὴ εἴη. – Procopius

Ummaka qinnassa nīk!

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Now I understand why everyone has been bitching about a Dance of Dragons.... - 18/09/2009 12:36:21 AM 1310 Views
Welcome my son....welcome to the machine...... *NM* - 18/09/2009 03:06:36 AM 471 Views
lol Nice. *NM* - 20/09/2009 12:28:08 AM 460 Views
It's not just that. He split A Feast for Crows into two. - 18/09/2009 03:10:35 AM 600 Views
Re: It's not just that. He split A Feast for Crows into two. *NM* - 18/09/2009 04:04:06 AM 507 Views
Titles - 18/09/2009 04:15:24 AM 558 Views
Ok, Martin is published by Bantam...replace "Tor" with "Bantam" - 18/09/2009 05:43:51 PM 604 Views
Nope, still doesn't work. - 18/09/2009 08:49:09 PM 583 Views
I would recommend you re-read my post - you're confusing me with someone else - 18/09/2009 10:24:24 PM 531 Views
Re: Nope, still doesn't work. - 18/09/2009 10:46:59 PM 449 Views
Is this the thread in which you'll FINALLY reveal... - 20/09/2009 12:31:49 AM 480 Views
Remember what The Neil said: "GRRM is not your bitch!" *NM* - 18/09/2009 07:32:47 AM 521 Views
I don't give a shit what Neil Gaiman thinks - 18/09/2009 05:35:54 PM 474 Views
Gaiman = The Most Overrated Author of the New Milennium. *NM* - 20/09/2009 12:33:10 AM 446 Views
In your opinion, of course. *NM* - 20/09/2009 01:28:33 AM 453 Views
Yes, and this entire thread deals with opinions. - 20/09/2009 01:52:21 AM 425 Views
I see the reason in that. - 20/09/2009 02:13:46 AM 627 Views
He might be a good comic book author, I don't know - 20/09/2009 03:05:15 AM 502 Views
I see where there might be a misunderstanding. - 20/09/2009 03:05:24 AM 547 Views
You're the man, Wert. - 20/09/2009 03:29:41 AM 532 Views
Still ruling WOT, I see. How's that going? *NM* - 18/09/2009 03:26:15 AM 424 Views
Very well, thanks - 18/09/2009 04:05:16 AM 500 Views
One thing I got to say about Robert Jordan... - 18/09/2009 03:40:20 AM 609 Views
Sometimes ... - 18/09/2009 05:07:18 AM 531 Views
I agree! - 18/09/2009 01:39:04 PM 511 Views
Sometimes...Neil Gaiman should be thrown into a meat grinder. - 18/09/2009 05:49:56 PM 587 Views
You paid for a product. You got a product. That is the end of the matter in its entirety. - 18/09/2009 09:03:05 PM 531 Views
Was this well out of line, by any chance? - 18/09/2009 10:25:57 PM 558 Views
damn you are rude *NM* - 18/09/2009 10:51:19 PM 440 Views
Gosh. This is pretty tiring. - 18/09/2009 11:25:51 PM 621 Views
So this guy still hasn't been banned yet, why exactly? - 19/09/2009 04:13:05 PM 557 Views
For several reasons. *NM* - 19/09/2009 10:15:38 PM 416 Views
Get off your high horse. Someone disagrees with you. Deal with it. *NM* - 20/09/2009 12:35:24 AM 475 Views
No, this guy is breaching the forum rules on attacks and insults. - 20/09/2009 02:57:20 AM 486 Views
What would you call a good start? - 20/09/2009 03:25:46 AM 473 Views
Oh please. Grow some thicker skin. - 20/09/2009 03:26:33 AM 465 Views
You think this behaviour would have been tolerated on Wotmania? It definitely would not have been. - 20/09/2009 03:31:20 AM 508 Views
That is factually incorrect. *NM* - 20/09/2009 03:38:06 AM 413 Views
"It" would have been. "It" was. - 20/09/2009 05:45:14 AM 495 Views
Depends on which section of wotmania you're thinking about - 20/09/2009 06:54:00 AM 501 Views
Precisely. *NM* - 20/09/2009 07:30:12 AM 418 Views
I half agree... - 20/09/2009 04:35:22 AM 481 Views
What's with the ad hominems, Tom? - 20/09/2009 06:57:33 AM 456 Views
Irony overdose. Again. - 19/09/2009 06:28:49 AM 482 Views
WTF? - 20/09/2009 01:49:23 AM 513 Views
- 20/09/2009 03:00:53 AM 511 Views
that would be very counter productive - 18/09/2009 10:50:01 PM 453 Views
Depends on what you want. - 18/09/2009 11:26:54 PM 442 Views
That's the most valid point of the argument. - 18/09/2009 11:54:26 PM 506 Views
Agreed. - 19/09/2009 03:02:48 AM 488 Views
Now to me that supports Tom's point about 'reliance theory'. - 19/09/2009 05:55:28 PM 496 Views
But a promise was never made. - 19/09/2009 06:04:55 PM 483 Views
I think we're hung up on the definition of "promise." - 19/09/2009 07:14:30 PM 458 Views
Who is GGK and where is his article? + my opinion on Martin - 19/09/2009 07:55:01 PM 512 Views
This is where the great divide comes into play - 19/09/2009 08:10:09 PM 484 Views
I think he should take a page out of RJ's book - 19/09/2009 08:36:55 PM 521 Views
Excellent point. - 19/09/2009 10:09:36 PM 613 Views
Re: Excellent point. - 20/09/2009 12:21:21 AM 504 Views
That would be the best policy. *NM* - 19/09/2009 11:23:48 PM 405 Views
Re: Who is GGK and where is his article? + my opinion on Martin - 19/09/2009 11:22:25 PM 546 Views
Re: I think we're hung up on the definition of "promise." - 19/09/2009 08:04:53 PM 481 Views
Exceptions prove the rule... - 19/09/2009 08:42:39 PM 460 Views
Re: Exceptions prove the rule... - 19/09/2009 10:00:35 PM 479 Views
I think we're winding down here. - 20/09/2009 07:41:15 AM 478 Views
Yeah. - 19/09/2009 11:27:04 PM 506 Views
Don't mind me, I just can't post in the right place. *NM* - 19/09/2009 07:13:25 PM 452 Views