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I think we're hung up on the definition of "promise." Craig Send a noteboard - 19/09/2009 07:14:30 PM
Yes, you are 100% correct (so far as I know) that Martin did not at any point state "I promise that, no matter what, I will complete this series. All books will be out in a timely manner."

I think you would be hard-pressed to argue, though, that writing three books in a series is not an implied promise to write the whole series. I don't think I've ever heard of an author who wrote two books in a series with no intention of ever completing the storyline. Or leaving all of the main story threads unresolved, and then leaning back and saying "Alright, now it's time for my ten-year hiatus, just as planned."

Don't get me wrong, I don't really give a crap about the legal debate from up above. I just feel like some Martin defenders like to trot out the "he never promised anybody anything" without seeming to understand why that argument is wholly unsatisfactory.
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Nope, still doesn't work. - 18/09/2009 08:49:09 PM 583 Views
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Is this the thread in which you'll FINALLY reveal... - 20/09/2009 12:31:49 AM 481 Views
Remember what The Neil said: "GRRM is not your bitch!" *NM* - 18/09/2009 07:32:47 AM 522 Views
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Gaiman = The Most Overrated Author of the New Milennium. *NM* - 20/09/2009 12:33:10 AM 446 Views
In your opinion, of course. *NM* - 20/09/2009 01:28:33 AM 454 Views
Yes, and this entire thread deals with opinions. - 20/09/2009 01:52:21 AM 426 Views
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He might be a good comic book author, I don't know - 20/09/2009 03:05:15 AM 503 Views
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You're the man, Wert. - 20/09/2009 03:29:41 AM 532 Views
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Sometimes ... - 18/09/2009 05:07:18 AM 531 Views
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You paid for a product. You got a product. That is the end of the matter in its entirety. - 18/09/2009 09:03:05 PM 531 Views
Was this well out of line, by any chance? - 18/09/2009 10:25:57 PM 560 Views
damn you are rude *NM* - 18/09/2009 10:51:19 PM 441 Views
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For several reasons. *NM* - 19/09/2009 10:15:38 PM 418 Views
Get off your high horse. Someone disagrees with you. Deal with it. *NM* - 20/09/2009 12:35:24 AM 476 Views
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What would you call a good start? - 20/09/2009 03:25:46 AM 473 Views
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That is factually incorrect. *NM* - 20/09/2009 03:38:06 AM 414 Views
"It" would have been. "It" was. - 20/09/2009 05:45:14 AM 495 Views
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I half agree... - 20/09/2009 04:35:22 AM 482 Views
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Irony overdose. Again. - 19/09/2009 06:28:49 AM 482 Views
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that would be very counter productive - 18/09/2009 10:50:01 PM 454 Views
Depends on what you want. - 18/09/2009 11:26:54 PM 443 Views
That's the most valid point of the argument. - 18/09/2009 11:54:26 PM 507 Views
Agreed. - 19/09/2009 03:02:48 AM 488 Views
Now to me that supports Tom's point about 'reliance theory'. - 19/09/2009 05:55:28 PM 497 Views
But a promise was never made. - 19/09/2009 06:04:55 PM 484 Views
I think we're hung up on the definition of "promise." - 19/09/2009 07:14:30 PM 459 Views
Who is GGK and where is his article? + my opinion on Martin - 19/09/2009 07:55:01 PM 513 Views
This is where the great divide comes into play - 19/09/2009 08:10:09 PM 486 Views
I think he should take a page out of RJ's book - 19/09/2009 08:36:55 PM 522 Views
Excellent point. - 19/09/2009 10:09:36 PM 615 Views
Re: Excellent point. - 20/09/2009 12:21:21 AM 504 Views
That would be the best policy. *NM* - 19/09/2009 11:23:48 PM 406 Views
Re: Who is GGK and where is his article? + my opinion on Martin - 19/09/2009 11:22:25 PM 548 Views
Re: I think we're hung up on the definition of "promise." - 19/09/2009 08:04:53 PM 483 Views
Exceptions prove the rule... - 19/09/2009 08:42:39 PM 462 Views
Re: Exceptions prove the rule... - 19/09/2009 10:00:35 PM 480 Views
I think we're winding down here. - 20/09/2009 07:41:15 AM 478 Views
Yeah. - 19/09/2009 11:27:04 PM 506 Views
Don't mind me, I just can't post in the right place. *NM* - 19/09/2009 07:13:25 PM 454 Views