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Titles Werthead Send a noteboard - 18/09/2009 04:15:24 AM
We got half of a book when he published A Feast for Crows. He gutted half of the plotlines and saved the rest for a second book that is now taking the name of what was supposed to be the last book in the series. The book that was originally going to be A Dance With Dragons is now one or more books with no title as of yet.


ADWD was never the title of the last book in the series. The last book was for a long time called The Winds of Winter (which is now Book 6) before he realised there was no way that was going to fit into one book so split it in two, with the final book in the series now having the working title A Dream of Spring.

The 'current' ADWD is also pretty much the same book the 'original' ADWD was supposed to be, which is why the name hasn't changed. It just has a few extra chapters inherited from the original, pre-split AFFC featuring the characters in the aftermath of ASoS before moving onto the next major plot point.

I'm sure Tor is bitching him out


What does Tor have to do with ASoIaF?
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Now I understand why everyone has been bitching about a Dance of Dragons.... DREWRULESWOT! - 18/09/2009 12:36:21 AM 1288 Views
Welcome my son....welcome to the machine...... *NM* Animosity - 18/09/2009 03:06:36 AM 450 Views
lol Nice. *NM* Joker - 20/09/2009 12:28:08 AM 439 Views
It's not just that. He split A Feast for Crows into two. Tom - 18/09/2009 03:10:35 AM 578 Views
Re: It's not just that. He split A Feast for Crows into two. *NM* DREWRULESWOT! - 18/09/2009 04:04:06 AM 489 Views
Titles Werthead - 18/09/2009 04:15:24 AM 541 Views
Ok, Martin is published by Bantam...replace "Tor" with "Bantam" Tom - 18/09/2009 05:43:51 PM 584 Views
Nope, still doesn't work. Werthead - 18/09/2009 08:49:09 PM 556 Views
I would recommend you re-read my post - you're confusing me with someone else Tom - 18/09/2009 10:24:24 PM 510 Views
Re: Nope, still doesn't work. imlad - 18/09/2009 10:46:59 PM 429 Views
Is this the thread in which you'll FINALLY reveal... Joker - 20/09/2009 12:31:49 AM 457 Views
Remember what The Neil said: "GRRM is not your bitch!" *NM* Artsapat - 18/09/2009 07:32:47 AM 496 Views
I don't give a shit what Neil Gaiman thinks Tom - 18/09/2009 05:35:54 PM 452 Views
Gaiman = The Most Overrated Author of the New Milennium. *NM* Joker - 20/09/2009 12:33:10 AM 424 Views
In your opinion, of course. *NM* IndigoAjah - 20/09/2009 01:28:33 AM 428 Views
Yes, and this entire thread deals with opinions. Tom - 20/09/2009 01:52:21 AM 404 Views
I see the reason in that. IndigoAjah - 20/09/2009 02:13:46 AM 605 Views
I haven't even finished reading A Clash of Kings and I'm a touch annoyed by Martin already Brian - 20/09/2009 02:35:32 AM 522 Views
He might be a good comic book author, I don't know Tom - 20/09/2009 03:05:15 AM 483 Views
I see where there might be a misunderstanding. Werthead - 20/09/2009 03:05:24 AM 528 Views
You're the man, Wert. Joker - 20/09/2009 03:29:41 AM 511 Views
I can see my rule of not reading series that have not been finished is paying off. Camilla - 18/09/2009 11:00:37 AM 442 Views
Still ruling WOT, I see. How's that going? *NM* Craig - 18/09/2009 03:26:15 AM 403 Views
Very well, thanks DREWRULESWOT! - 18/09/2009 04:05:16 AM 482 Views
One thing I got to say about Robert Jordan... Crackbrained Asha'man - 18/09/2009 03:40:20 AM 587 Views
Sometimes ... Nate - 18/09/2009 05:07:18 AM 511 Views
I agree! heartbreak - 18/09/2009 01:39:04 PM 492 Views
Sometimes...Neil Gaiman should be thrown into a meat grinder. Tom - 18/09/2009 05:49:56 PM 538 Views
You paid for a product. You got a product. That is the end of the matter in its entirety. Werthead - 18/09/2009 09:03:05 PM 503 Views
Was this well out of line, by any chance? Tom - 18/09/2009 10:25:57 PM 537 Views
damn you are rude *NM* imlad - 18/09/2009 10:51:19 PM 417 Views
Gosh. This is pretty tiring. Tom - 18/09/2009 11:25:51 PM 557 Views
So this guy still hasn't been banned yet, why exactly? Werthead - 19/09/2009 04:13:05 PM 536 Views
For several reasons. *NM* Ghavrel - 19/09/2009 10:15:38 PM 395 Views
Get off your high horse. Someone disagrees with you. Deal with it. *NM* Joker - 20/09/2009 12:35:24 AM 456 Views
No, this guy is breaching the forum rules on attacks and insults. Werthead - 20/09/2009 02:57:20 AM 449 Views
What would you call a good start? Chas - 20/09/2009 03:25:46 AM 435 Views
Oh please. Grow some thicker skin. Joker - 20/09/2009 03:26:33 AM 442 Views
You think this behaviour would have been tolerated on Wotmania? It definitely would not have been. Werthead - 20/09/2009 03:31:20 AM 472 Views
That is factually incorrect. *NM* Chas - 20/09/2009 03:38:06 AM 394 Views
"It" would have been. "It" was. Ghavrel - 20/09/2009 05:45:14 AM 469 Views
Depends on which section of wotmania you're thinking about Larry - 20/09/2009 06:54:00 AM 475 Views
Precisely. *NM* Craig - 20/09/2009 07:30:12 AM 395 Views
I half agree... fionwe1987 - 20/09/2009 04:35:22 AM 459 Views
What's with the ad hominems, Tom? Larry - 20/09/2009 06:57:33 AM 430 Views
Nope, I'm someone simply a hell of a lot better informed about the situation then you. Deal with it. *NM* Werthead - 19/09/2009 02:40:07 AM 426 Views
"Than", not "then". Learn English while you're at it. *NM* Tom - 20/09/2009 01:47:56 AM 422 Views
Irony overdose. Again. Tashmere - 19/09/2009 06:28:49 AM 460 Views
WTF? Tom - 20/09/2009 01:49:23 AM 486 Views
fionwe1987 - 20/09/2009 03:00:53 AM 472 Views
I'd agree with you except for the fact that there was the 'promise'. *NM* Chas - 19/09/2009 05:59:21 PM 374 Views
that would be very counter productive imlad - 18/09/2009 10:50:01 PM 431 Views
Depends on what you want. Tom - 18/09/2009 11:26:54 PM 424 Views
Gaiman would just turn the episode into an amazing graphic novel as he died. *NM* IndigoAjah - 19/09/2009 01:06:30 PM 438 Views
That's the most valid point of the argument. Chas - 18/09/2009 11:54:26 PM 486 Views
Agreed. Werthead - 19/09/2009 03:02:48 AM 467 Views
Now to me that supports Tom's point about 'reliance theory'. Chas - 19/09/2009 05:55:28 PM 475 Views
But a promise was never made. Werthead - 19/09/2009 06:04:55 PM 464 Views
I think we're hung up on the definition of "promise." Craig - 19/09/2009 07:14:30 PM 436 Views
Who is GGK and where is his article? + my opinion on Martin Asharak - 19/09/2009 07:55:01 PM 492 Views
This is where the great divide comes into play Werthead - 19/09/2009 08:10:09 PM 464 Views
I think he should take a page out of RJ's book fionwe1987 - 19/09/2009 08:36:55 PM 500 Views
Excellent point. Werthead - 19/09/2009 10:09:36 PM 570 Views
Re: Excellent point. fionwe1987 - 20/09/2009 12:21:21 AM 484 Views
That would be the best policy. *NM* Chas - 19/09/2009 11:23:48 PM 381 Views
Re: Who is GGK and where is his article? + my opinion on Martin Chas - 19/09/2009 11:22:25 PM 527 Views
Re: I think we're hung up on the definition of "promise." Werthead - 19/09/2009 08:04:53 PM 455 Views
Exceptions prove the rule... Craig - 19/09/2009 08:42:39 PM 433 Views
Re: Exceptions prove the rule... Werthead - 19/09/2009 10:00:35 PM 452 Views
I think we're winding down here. Craig - 20/09/2009 07:41:15 AM 457 Views
Yeah. Chas - 19/09/2009 11:27:04 PM 484 Views
Don't mind me, I just can't post in the right place. *NM* Craig - 19/09/2009 07:13:25 PM 432 Views
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