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Ok, Martin is published by Bantam...replace "Tor" with "Bantam" Tom Send a noteboard - 18/09/2009 05:43:51 PM
We still got half a book. No Jon Snow, no Dany, no Tyrion. Let's face it, any book without the Wall and the North is just...robbed of its Song of Ice and Fire-ness.

The simple fact is that I'm just not all that interested in the Martin series after A Feast for Crows and the extraordinarily long lag between books, which for a series is not good.

Martin doesn't have an obligation to get the books out, but as he drags this out the readers have less interest in buying them. Sales for games and related merchandise will drop as well.

Of course, he might get the next book out before Brandon Sanderson finishes the Jordan series and it might be great. Right about now, though, there are a lot of disillusioned fans losing interest. It doesn't matter what the books were "technically" always going to be called.

Political correctness is the pettiest form of casuistry.

ἡ δὲ κἀκ τριῶν τρυπημάτων ἐργαζομένη ἐνεκάλει τῇ φύσει, δυσφορουμένη, ὅτι δὴ μὴ καὶ τοὺς τιτθοὺς αὐτῇ εὐρύτερον ἢ νῦν εἰσι τρυπώη, ὅπως καὶ ἄλλην ἐνταῦθα μίξιν ἐπιτεχνᾶσθαι δυνατὴ εἴη. – Procopius

Ummaka qinnassa nīk!

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Now I understand why everyone has been bitching about a Dance of Dragons.... DREWRULESWOT! - 18/09/2009 12:36:21 AM 1213 Views
Welcome my son....welcome to the machine...... *NM* Animosity - 18/09/2009 03:06:36 AM 382 Views
lol Nice. *NM* Joker - 20/09/2009 12:28:08 AM 341 Views
It's not just that. He split A Feast for Crows into two. Tom - 18/09/2009 03:10:35 AM 509 Views
Re: It's not just that. He split A Feast for Crows into two. *NM* DREWRULESWOT! - 18/09/2009 04:04:06 AM 418 Views
Titles Werthead - 18/09/2009 04:15:24 AM 476 Views
Ok, Martin is published by Bantam...replace "Tor" with "Bantam" Tom - 18/09/2009 05:43:51 PM 499 Views
Nope, still doesn't work. Werthead - 18/09/2009 08:49:09 PM 469 Views
I would recommend you re-read my post - you're confusing me with someone else Tom - 18/09/2009 10:24:24 PM 436 Views
Re: Nope, still doesn't work. imlad - 18/09/2009 10:46:59 PM 364 Views
Is this the thread in which you'll FINALLY reveal... Joker - 20/09/2009 12:31:49 AM 392 Views
Remember what The Neil said: "GRRM is not your bitch!" *NM* Artsapat - 18/09/2009 07:32:47 AM 384 Views
I don't give a shit what Neil Gaiman thinks Tom - 18/09/2009 05:35:54 PM 391 Views
Gaiman = The Most Overrated Author of the New Milennium. *NM* Joker - 20/09/2009 12:33:10 AM 359 Views
In your opinion, of course. *NM* IndigoAjah - 20/09/2009 01:28:33 AM 348 Views
Yes, and this entire thread deals with opinions. Tom - 20/09/2009 01:52:21 AM 345 Views
I see the reason in that. IndigoAjah - 20/09/2009 02:13:46 AM 529 Views
I haven't even finished reading A Clash of Kings and I'm a touch annoyed by Martin already Brian - 20/09/2009 02:35:32 AM 457 Views
He might be a good comic book author, I don't know Tom - 20/09/2009 03:05:15 AM 412 Views
I see where there might be a misunderstanding. Werthead - 20/09/2009 03:05:24 AM 463 Views
You're the man, Wert. Joker - 20/09/2009 03:29:41 AM 440 Views
I can see my rule of not reading series that have not been finished is paying off. Camilla - 18/09/2009 11:00:37 AM 376 Views
Still ruling WOT, I see. How's that going? *NM* Craig - 18/09/2009 03:26:15 AM 332 Views
Very well, thanks DREWRULESWOT! - 18/09/2009 04:05:16 AM 409 Views
One thing I got to say about Robert Jordan... Crackbrained Asha'man - 18/09/2009 03:40:20 AM 514 Views
Sometimes ... Nate - 18/09/2009 05:07:18 AM 436 Views
I agree! heartbreak - 18/09/2009 01:39:04 PM 427 Views
Sometimes...Neil Gaiman should be thrown into a meat grinder. Tom - 18/09/2009 05:49:56 PM 472 Views
You paid for a product. You got a product. That is the end of the matter in its entirety. Werthead - 18/09/2009 09:03:05 PM 432 Views
Was this well out of line, by any chance? Tom - 18/09/2009 10:25:57 PM 468 Views
damn you are rude *NM* imlad - 18/09/2009 10:51:19 PM 343 Views
Gosh. This is pretty tiring. Tom - 18/09/2009 11:25:51 PM 485 Views
So this guy still hasn't been banned yet, why exactly? Werthead - 19/09/2009 04:13:05 PM 440 Views
For several reasons. *NM* Ghavrel - 19/09/2009 10:15:38 PM 327 Views
Get off your high horse. Someone disagrees with you. Deal with it. *NM* Joker - 20/09/2009 12:35:24 AM 329 Views
No, this guy is breaching the forum rules on attacks and insults. Werthead - 20/09/2009 02:57:20 AM 375 Views
What would you call a good start? Chas - 20/09/2009 03:25:46 AM 364 Views
Oh please. Grow some thicker skin. Joker - 20/09/2009 03:26:33 AM 373 Views
You think this behaviour would have been tolerated on Wotmania? It definitely would not have been. Werthead - 20/09/2009 03:31:20 AM 406 Views
That is factually incorrect. *NM* Chas - 20/09/2009 03:38:06 AM 331 Views
"It" would have been. "It" was. Ghavrel - 20/09/2009 05:45:14 AM 409 Views
Depends on which section of wotmania you're thinking about Larry - 20/09/2009 06:54:00 AM 402 Views
Precisely. *NM* Craig - 20/09/2009 07:30:12 AM 328 Views
I half agree... fionwe1987 - 20/09/2009 04:35:22 AM 392 Views
What's with the ad hominems, Tom? Larry - 20/09/2009 06:57:33 AM 371 Views
Nope, I'm someone simply a hell of a lot better informed about the situation then you. Deal with it. *NM* Werthead - 19/09/2009 02:40:07 AM 358 Views
"Than", not "then". Learn English while you're at it. *NM* Tom - 20/09/2009 01:47:56 AM 355 Views
Irony overdose. Again. Tashmere - 19/09/2009 06:28:49 AM 375 Views
WTF? Tom - 20/09/2009 01:49:23 AM 420 Views
fionwe1987 - 20/09/2009 03:00:53 AM 408 Views
I'd agree with you except for the fact that there was the 'promise'. *NM* Chas - 19/09/2009 05:59:21 PM 289 Views
that would be very counter productive imlad - 18/09/2009 10:50:01 PM 364 Views
Depends on what you want. Tom - 18/09/2009 11:26:54 PM 359 Views
Gaiman would just turn the episode into an amazing graphic novel as he died. *NM* IndigoAjah - 19/09/2009 01:06:30 PM 354 Views
That's the most valid point of the argument. Chas - 18/09/2009 11:54:26 PM 408 Views
Agreed. Werthead - 19/09/2009 03:02:48 AM 392 Views
Now to me that supports Tom's point about 'reliance theory'. Chas - 19/09/2009 05:55:28 PM 413 Views
But a promise was never made. Werthead - 19/09/2009 06:04:55 PM 402 Views
I think we're hung up on the definition of "promise." Craig - 19/09/2009 07:14:30 PM 373 Views
Who is GGK and where is his article? + my opinion on Martin Asharak - 19/09/2009 07:55:01 PM 418 Views
This is where the great divide comes into play Werthead - 19/09/2009 08:10:09 PM 397 Views
I think he should take a page out of RJ's book fionwe1987 - 19/09/2009 08:36:55 PM 435 Views
Excellent point. Werthead - 19/09/2009 10:09:36 PM 383 Views
Re: Excellent point. fionwe1987 - 20/09/2009 12:21:21 AM 403 Views
That would be the best policy. *NM* Chas - 19/09/2009 11:23:48 PM 309 Views
Re: Who is GGK and where is his article? + my opinion on Martin Chas - 19/09/2009 11:22:25 PM 453 Views
Re: I think we're hung up on the definition of "promise." Werthead - 19/09/2009 08:04:53 PM 378 Views
Exceptions prove the rule... Craig - 19/09/2009 08:42:39 PM 364 Views
Re: Exceptions prove the rule... Werthead - 19/09/2009 10:00:35 PM 359 Views
I think we're winding down here. Craig - 20/09/2009 07:41:15 AM 353 Views
Yeah. Chas - 19/09/2009 11:27:04 PM 416 Views
Don't mind me, I just can't post in the right place. *NM* Craig - 19/09/2009 07:13:25 PM 364 Views
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