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I would recommend you re-read my post - you're confusing me with someone else Tom Send a noteboard - 18/09/2009 10:24:24 PM
1. I was hoping Tor (read: Bantam) is putting pressure on Martin. I see that sadly, this is not the case.

2. I said that I had lost interest in the series, and honestly I know a lot of other people who have likewise lost interest in the series. That translates into lower revenue. All of this is true - I stated my opinion, the opinions of my friends and the market effect of that sentiment. Citing Wheel of Time does not really help your argument, either. Look at the general consensus on Crossroads of Twilight - the fan base was drifting. If Jordan had not started to wrap things up with Knife of Dreams the fan base would have been lost. I never said it had reached a critical mass, only that Martin would do well to remember his promises.

3. Martin has a pilot with HBO - are you aware of something I'm not? Did they already sign for a full season?

4. The entirety of the statement "your whole post was about how ADWD was going to be pointless, and nothing in it of any importance was going to happen because those events have been pushed back to a later book" is completely wrong. I never said anything remotely like that.

In fact, to summarize, I simply said (a) A Feast for Crows was bad because the good character lines were missing, (b) the book that was originally designated A Dance With Dragons is a different book as a result, (c) I'm not happy, other people aren't happy and the result on the market could be negative, and (d) this series could drag out for years and years.

Absolutely none of the above are "fictitious points". So I'll just ignore the rest of your obnoxious petty douchebag last paragraph.

Political correctness is the pettiest form of casuistry.

ἡ δὲ κἀκ τριῶν τρυπημάτων ἐργαζομένη ἐνεκάλει τῇ φύσει, δυσφορουμένη, ὅτι δὴ μὴ καὶ τοὺς τιτθοὺς αὐτῇ εὐρύτερον ἢ νῦν εἰσι τρυπώη, ὅπως καὶ ἄλλην ἐνταῦθα μίξιν ἐπιτεχνᾶσθαι δυνατὴ εἴη. – Procopius

Ummaka qinnassa nīk!

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Now I understand why everyone has been bitching about a Dance of Dragons.... - 18/09/2009 12:36:21 AM 1236 Views
Welcome my son....welcome to the machine...... *NM* - 18/09/2009 03:06:36 AM 405 Views
lol Nice. *NM* - 20/09/2009 12:28:08 AM 391 Views
It's not just that. He split A Feast for Crows into two. - 18/09/2009 03:10:35 AM 536 Views
Re: It's not just that. He split A Feast for Crows into two. *NM* - 18/09/2009 04:04:06 AM 443 Views
Titles - 18/09/2009 04:15:24 AM 498 Views
Ok, Martin is published by Bantam...replace "Tor" with "Bantam" - 18/09/2009 05:43:51 PM 531 Views
Nope, still doesn't work. - 18/09/2009 08:49:09 PM 501 Views
I would recommend you re-read my post - you're confusing me with someone else - 18/09/2009 10:24:24 PM 460 Views
Re: Nope, still doesn't work. - 18/09/2009 10:46:59 PM 386 Views
Is this the thread in which you'll FINALLY reveal... - 20/09/2009 12:31:49 AM 419 Views
Remember what The Neil said: "GRRM is not your bitch!" *NM* - 18/09/2009 07:32:47 AM 406 Views
I don't give a shit what Neil Gaiman thinks - 18/09/2009 05:35:54 PM 412 Views
Gaiman = The Most Overrated Author of the New Milennium. *NM* - 20/09/2009 12:33:10 AM 384 Views
In your opinion, of course. *NM* - 20/09/2009 01:28:33 AM 381 Views
Yes, and this entire thread deals with opinions. - 20/09/2009 01:52:21 AM 366 Views
I see the reason in that. - 20/09/2009 02:13:46 AM 561 Views
He might be a good comic book author, I don't know - 20/09/2009 03:05:15 AM 438 Views
I see where there might be a misunderstanding. - 20/09/2009 03:05:24 AM 485 Views
You're the man, Wert. - 20/09/2009 03:29:41 AM 463 Views
Still ruling WOT, I see. How's that going? *NM* - 18/09/2009 03:26:15 AM 357 Views
Very well, thanks - 18/09/2009 04:05:16 AM 433 Views
One thing I got to say about Robert Jordan... - 18/09/2009 03:40:20 AM 543 Views
Sometimes ... - 18/09/2009 05:07:18 AM 464 Views
I agree! - 18/09/2009 01:39:04 PM 450 Views
Sometimes...Neil Gaiman should be thrown into a meat grinder. - 18/09/2009 05:49:56 PM 495 Views
You paid for a product. You got a product. That is the end of the matter in its entirety. - 18/09/2009 09:03:05 PM 459 Views
Was this well out of line, by any chance? - 18/09/2009 10:25:57 PM 493 Views
damn you are rude *NM* - 18/09/2009 10:51:19 PM 371 Views
Gosh. This is pretty tiring. - 18/09/2009 11:25:51 PM 507 Views
So this guy still hasn't been banned yet, why exactly? - 19/09/2009 04:13:05 PM 467 Views
For several reasons. *NM* - 19/09/2009 10:15:38 PM 355 Views
Get off your high horse. Someone disagrees with you. Deal with it. *NM* - 20/09/2009 12:35:24 AM 352 Views
No, this guy is breaching the forum rules on attacks and insults. - 20/09/2009 02:57:20 AM 404 Views
What would you call a good start? - 20/09/2009 03:25:46 AM 387 Views
Oh please. Grow some thicker skin. - 20/09/2009 03:26:33 AM 395 Views
You think this behaviour would have been tolerated on Wotmania? It definitely would not have been. - 20/09/2009 03:31:20 AM 426 Views
That is factually incorrect. *NM* - 20/09/2009 03:38:06 AM 356 Views
"It" would have been. "It" was. - 20/09/2009 05:45:14 AM 432 Views
Depends on which section of wotmania you're thinking about - 20/09/2009 06:54:00 AM 431 Views
Precisely. *NM* - 20/09/2009 07:30:12 AM 352 Views
I half agree... - 20/09/2009 04:35:22 AM 414 Views
What's with the ad hominems, Tom? - 20/09/2009 06:57:33 AM 392 Views
Irony overdose. Again. - 19/09/2009 06:28:49 AM 401 Views
WTF? - 20/09/2009 01:49:23 AM 447 Views
- 20/09/2009 03:00:53 AM 430 Views
that would be very counter productive - 18/09/2009 10:50:01 PM 385 Views
Depends on what you want. - 18/09/2009 11:26:54 PM 382 Views
That's the most valid point of the argument. - 18/09/2009 11:54:26 PM 434 Views
Agreed. - 19/09/2009 03:02:48 AM 420 Views
Now to me that supports Tom's point about 'reliance theory'. - 19/09/2009 05:55:28 PM 437 Views
But a promise was never made. - 19/09/2009 06:04:55 PM 422 Views
I think we're hung up on the definition of "promise." - 19/09/2009 07:14:30 PM 395 Views
Who is GGK and where is his article? + my opinion on Martin - 19/09/2009 07:55:01 PM 448 Views
This is where the great divide comes into play - 19/09/2009 08:10:09 PM 424 Views
I think he should take a page out of RJ's book - 19/09/2009 08:36:55 PM 456 Views
Excellent point. - 19/09/2009 10:09:36 PM 425 Views
Re: Excellent point. - 20/09/2009 12:21:21 AM 434 Views
That would be the best policy. *NM* - 19/09/2009 11:23:48 PM 332 Views
Re: Who is GGK and where is his article? + my opinion on Martin - 19/09/2009 11:22:25 PM 477 Views
Re: I think we're hung up on the definition of "promise." - 19/09/2009 08:04:53 PM 409 Views
Exceptions prove the rule... - 19/09/2009 08:42:39 PM 393 Views
Re: Exceptions prove the rule... - 19/09/2009 10:00:35 PM 388 Views
I think we're winding down here. - 20/09/2009 07:41:15 AM 380 Views
Yeah. - 19/09/2009 11:27:04 PM 440 Views
Don't mind me, I just can't post in the right place. *NM* - 19/09/2009 07:13:25 PM 389 Views