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Re: That's incorrect... Shannow Send a noteboard - 29/10/2012 10:40:27 AM
A Bell Curve is a perfectly normal distribution. Perfectly symmetrical. Otherwises it's not a Bell Curve.


Yes, but as I said, no real data is ever a perfect bell curve. When people say "it's a bell curve", they actually mean "it's reasonably well described by a bell curve".


Well, that's the solution I'm putting forward.

Which is that RJ actually misspoke when he called it a Bell Curve. In fact, he may have not entirely KNOWN the implications of calling it a Bell Curve.

Because we know that most channelers are weak and only a minority are very strong - and the Guide tells us this was also the distribution during the Age of Legends - and yet a Bell Curve would imply that there are as many channelers of Graendal's strength as there are of Sorilea's strength.

And this is clearly not the case, given that there are so many weak channelers but so incredibly few strong channelers.

To repeat my point: A perfect Bell Curve does not reflect the data from the books.
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The Bell Curve revisited Shannow - 29/10/2012 09:44:09 AM 1624 Views
Re: The Bell Curve revisited Tor - 29/10/2012 10:21:27 AM 995 Views
That's incorrect... Shannow - 29/10/2012 10:26:49 AM 1585 Views
Re: That's incorrect... Tor - 29/10/2012 10:36:32 AM 973 Views
Re: That's incorrect... Shannow - 29/10/2012 10:40:27 AM 840 Views
Re: That's incorrect... Tor - 29/10/2012 10:42:57 AM 823 Views
Hehe...There are a few disputing it vocally. Whether they're in their right mind, well... Shannow - 29/10/2012 10:45:07 AM 923 Views
Re: Hehe...There are a few disputing it vocally. Whether they're in their right mind, well... Tor - 29/10/2012 10:49:49 AM 819 Views
Re: Hehe...There are a few disputing it vocally. Whether they're in their right mind, well... Shannow - 29/10/2012 10:56:37 AM 902 Views
It's only as skewed as it seems when you make the assumption that the Forsaken darius_sedai - 31/10/2012 04:34:11 AM 1140 Views
RJ the physicist didn't know math, so that Shannow could be right... fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 02:11:19 PM 917 Views
Response to a few of your poorly researched points... Shannow - 29/10/2012 02:31:17 PM 860 Views
Re: RJ the physicist didn't know math, so that Shannow could be right... Tor - 29/10/2012 02:37:33 PM 857 Views
Exactly... Shannow - 29/10/2012 02:39:30 PM 855 Views
there are dozens of reasons for this darius_sedai - 29/10/2012 08:18:18 PM 874 Views
Excellent point. fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 08:24:37 PM 906 Views
Re: there are dozens of reasons for this Tor - 29/10/2012 09:07:35 PM 821 Views
Again I don't argue that genetics play no role darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 01:57:24 AM 798 Views
Re: Again I don't argue that genetics play no role Tor - 30/10/2012 07:07:17 AM 805 Views
I don't think it plays much role in the plot darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 03:17:55 PM 960 Views
Once again just so,we are clear on my stance with Genetics and Strength darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 03:27:11 PM 818 Views
That the 1000 Novices aren't a random sample of the population? fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 08:23:47 PM 759 Views
And why would it be biased towards those with lower strength? Tor - 29/10/2012 09:11:25 PM 775 Views
Absolutely no reason... fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 01:35:35 AM 864 Views
Re: Absolutely no reason... Tor - 30/10/2012 06:43:54 AM 773 Views
Only if it was a random sampling. Which this is not. fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 01:58:34 PM 860 Views
That's exactly the point. I want you to explain why it wasn't random. Tor - 30/10/2012 02:14:59 PM 786 Views
It wasn't random because it was a self-selected sample! fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 02:43:03 PM 791 Views
Re: It wasn't random because it was a self-selected sample! Tor - 30/10/2012 02:47:30 PM 792 Views
Go read a stats text will you? fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 02:54:16 PM 782 Views
Done Tor - 31/10/2012 09:34:11 AM 1552 Views
You seem to have perfected whining to a Talent... fionwe1987 - 10/11/2012 10:14:19 PM 1065 Views
Re: You seem to have perfected whining to a Talent... Tor - 11/11/2012 11:37:16 AM 890 Views
Re: You seem to have perfected whining to a Talent... fionwe1987 - 11/11/2012 07:14:48 PM 741 Views
Re: You seem to have perfected whining to a Talent... Tor - 11/11/2012 08:33:59 PM 1561 Views
Re: You seem to have perfected whining to a Talent... Tor - 11/11/2012 08:43:19 PM 1129 Views
Seriously? I went and looked at some statistics books, and you won't even reply? Tor - 01/11/2012 12:13:49 PM 893 Views
Still nothing? Tor - 10/11/2012 03:33:15 PM 894 Views
Still doesn't explain the difference Praziquantel - 30/10/2012 07:01:53 PM 729 Views
Re: Still doesn't explain the difference fionwe1987 - 10/11/2012 10:21:00 PM 811 Views
Yes that totally makes sense Sidious - 30/10/2012 08:07:16 AM 904 Views
Thank you! *NM* Tor - 30/10/2012 10:19:15 AM 420 Views
That's not what happened... fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 02:01:52 PM 850 Views
Re: That's not what happened... Tor - 30/10/2012 02:15:57 PM 782 Views
Who said it would? fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 02:44:17 PM 803 Views
let's not mix up "random" and "representative" darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 05:28:09 PM 859 Views
Doesn't mean RJ applied it to his series Sidious - 30/10/2012 08:23:29 AM 870 Views
But of course he did.. fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 02:13:07 PM 905 Views
I hate to get into these things HousealThor - 29/10/2012 05:45:50 PM 941 Views
I would love for you to be right, because it would solve all our problems, but 0 is the challenge... Shannow - 29/10/2012 07:56:34 PM 925 Views
In the truest sense, you are probably right that it is skewed HousealThor - 29/10/2012 08:20:52 PM 932 Views
Overwhelm Lanfear, not match her. *NM* fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 08:26:09 PM 488 Views
Truth is, Moiraine was being overly optimistic... Shannow - 29/10/2012 08:39:17 PM 843 Views
You're pathetic... fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 01:20:01 AM 773 Views
The quote isn't specific Sidious - 30/10/2012 08:32:36 AM 890 Views
Its highly specific... fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 02:15:38 PM 736 Views
Yet neither of them are at full potential and at least equal a Forsaken darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 03:45:24 PM 1393 Views
Honestly! darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 02:07:37 AM 832 Views
Re: In the truest sense, you are probably right that it is skewed Tor - 29/10/2012 09:10:27 PM 844 Views
Lots of people mean perfectly normal distribution when they say it HousealThor - 30/10/2012 05:25:35 PM 792 Views
Couldn't the Towers method of obtaining Aes Sedai be to blame? TheCrownless - 30/10/2012 12:04:01 AM 973 Views
Re: Couldn't the Towers method of obtaining Aes Sedai be to blame? Tor - 30/10/2012 09:33:44 AM 903 Views
Are you sure about that? TheCrownless - 30/10/2012 12:03:43 PM 896 Views
Re: Are you sure about that? Tor - 30/10/2012 12:19:34 PM 811 Views
That doesn't seem a coherent narrative to me TheCrownless - 30/10/2012 04:26:25 PM 1136 Views
Sharina did not have the Spark, nor did Nicola darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 05:16:40 PM 914 Views
Re: Sharina did not have the Spark, nor did Nicola TheCrownless - 30/10/2012 05:54:41 PM 788 Views
We do not know if Cadsuane or any of the Forsaken are Sparkers darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 10:33:55 PM 923 Views
Re: We do not know if Cadsuane or any of the Forsaken are Sparkers TheCrownless - 31/10/2012 12:30:52 AM 884 Views
A handful of examples are all we have and we have proof that an extremely strong Channeler darius_sedai - 31/10/2012 02:58:57 AM 773 Views
you're confusing 2 things Zaphod - 30/10/2012 04:27:32 AM 1061 Views
+1 *NM* Sidious - 30/10/2012 09:17:07 AM 932 Views
Re: you're confusing 2 things Simon - 30/10/2012 09:21:39 AM 917 Views
Not true... Shannow - 30/10/2012 11:49:57 AM 894 Views
One thing HousealThor - 30/10/2012 05:23:17 PM 879 Views
That's the problem. The BC RJ has "built" has a minimum and a maximum value darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 05:48:55 PM 888 Views
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