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Re: Again I don't argue that genetics play no role Tor Send a noteboard - 30/10/2012 07:07:17 AM
1000 women of a potential field of perhaps millions is a tiny sample, especially when regionally skewed. All that added to the facts the author laid out make it obvious to me that these Novices are non-representative. Personally I think most of the purpose they served was to show that there are a huge number of potential Channelers in the world and that women like Sharina could be hidden almost anywhere


1000 is not a tiny sample, whether there were a million or a billon channeling women. That's just a fact.

However, it is certainly possible that Norther Alataran women are generally weak in the power. Personally, though, I believe Jordan just came up with some percentages to sound scientific, and didn't take the concequences of that in his writing. It's a shame we can't ask him what his thinking was.

Also, why do you bother discussing the bell curve if you feel it is perfectly reasonable for the author to disregard it if he wants to make the already obvious point that strong channelers could crop up anywhere?
Fram kamerater!
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The Bell Curve revisited Shannow - 29/10/2012 09:44:09 AM 1624 Views
Re: The Bell Curve revisited Tor - 29/10/2012 10:21:27 AM 996 Views
That's incorrect... Shannow - 29/10/2012 10:26:49 AM 1585 Views
Re: That's incorrect... Tor - 29/10/2012 10:36:32 AM 973 Views
Re: That's incorrect... Shannow - 29/10/2012 10:40:27 AM 840 Views
Re: That's incorrect... Tor - 29/10/2012 10:42:57 AM 823 Views
Hehe...There are a few disputing it vocally. Whether they're in their right mind, well... Shannow - 29/10/2012 10:45:07 AM 923 Views
Re: Hehe...There are a few disputing it vocally. Whether they're in their right mind, well... Tor - 29/10/2012 10:49:49 AM 820 Views
Re: Hehe...There are a few disputing it vocally. Whether they're in their right mind, well... Shannow - 29/10/2012 10:56:37 AM 902 Views
It's only as skewed as it seems when you make the assumption that the Forsaken darius_sedai - 31/10/2012 04:34:11 AM 1141 Views
RJ the physicist didn't know math, so that Shannow could be right... fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 02:11:19 PM 918 Views
Response to a few of your poorly researched points... Shannow - 29/10/2012 02:31:17 PM 860 Views
Re: RJ the physicist didn't know math, so that Shannow could be right... Tor - 29/10/2012 02:37:33 PM 858 Views
Exactly... Shannow - 29/10/2012 02:39:30 PM 856 Views
there are dozens of reasons for this darius_sedai - 29/10/2012 08:18:18 PM 874 Views
Excellent point. fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 08:24:37 PM 907 Views
Re: there are dozens of reasons for this Tor - 29/10/2012 09:07:35 PM 822 Views
Again I don't argue that genetics play no role darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 01:57:24 AM 799 Views
Re: Again I don't argue that genetics play no role Tor - 30/10/2012 07:07:17 AM 807 Views
I don't think it plays much role in the plot darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 03:17:55 PM 961 Views
Once again just so,we are clear on my stance with Genetics and Strength darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 03:27:11 PM 818 Views
That the 1000 Novices aren't a random sample of the population? fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 08:23:47 PM 760 Views
And why would it be biased towards those with lower strength? Tor - 29/10/2012 09:11:25 PM 776 Views
Absolutely no reason... fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 01:35:35 AM 865 Views
Re: Absolutely no reason... Tor - 30/10/2012 06:43:54 AM 775 Views
Only if it was a random sampling. Which this is not. fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 01:58:34 PM 861 Views
That's exactly the point. I want you to explain why it wasn't random. Tor - 30/10/2012 02:14:59 PM 788 Views
It wasn't random because it was a self-selected sample! fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 02:43:03 PM 793 Views
Re: It wasn't random because it was a self-selected sample! Tor - 30/10/2012 02:47:30 PM 793 Views
Go read a stats text will you? fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 02:54:16 PM 784 Views
Done Tor - 31/10/2012 09:34:11 AM 1553 Views
You seem to have perfected whining to a Talent... fionwe1987 - 10/11/2012 10:14:19 PM 1066 Views
Re: You seem to have perfected whining to a Talent... Tor - 11/11/2012 11:37:16 AM 891 Views
Re: You seem to have perfected whining to a Talent... fionwe1987 - 11/11/2012 07:14:48 PM 742 Views
Re: You seem to have perfected whining to a Talent... Tor - 11/11/2012 08:33:59 PM 1561 Views
Re: You seem to have perfected whining to a Talent... Tor - 11/11/2012 08:43:19 PM 1129 Views
Seriously? I went and looked at some statistics books, and you won't even reply? Tor - 01/11/2012 12:13:49 PM 894 Views
Still nothing? Tor - 10/11/2012 03:33:15 PM 896 Views
Still doesn't explain the difference Praziquantel - 30/10/2012 07:01:53 PM 730 Views
Re: Still doesn't explain the difference fionwe1987 - 10/11/2012 10:21:00 PM 811 Views
Yes that totally makes sense Sidious - 30/10/2012 08:07:16 AM 906 Views
Thank you! *NM* Tor - 30/10/2012 10:19:15 AM 420 Views
That's not what happened... fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 02:01:52 PM 851 Views
Re: That's not what happened... Tor - 30/10/2012 02:15:57 PM 784 Views
Who said it would? fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 02:44:17 PM 803 Views
let's not mix up "random" and "representative" darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 05:28:09 PM 860 Views
Doesn't mean RJ applied it to his series Sidious - 30/10/2012 08:23:29 AM 872 Views
But of course he did.. fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 02:13:07 PM 907 Views
I hate to get into these things HousealThor - 29/10/2012 05:45:50 PM 942 Views
I would love for you to be right, because it would solve all our problems, but 0 is the challenge... Shannow - 29/10/2012 07:56:34 PM 926 Views
In the truest sense, you are probably right that it is skewed HousealThor - 29/10/2012 08:20:52 PM 933 Views
Overwhelm Lanfear, not match her. *NM* fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 08:26:09 PM 489 Views
Truth is, Moiraine was being overly optimistic... Shannow - 29/10/2012 08:39:17 PM 843 Views
You're pathetic... fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 01:20:01 AM 773 Views
The quote isn't specific Sidious - 30/10/2012 08:32:36 AM 890 Views
Its highly specific... fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 02:15:38 PM 737 Views
Yet neither of them are at full potential and at least equal a Forsaken darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 03:45:24 PM 1395 Views
Honestly! darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 02:07:37 AM 832 Views
Re: In the truest sense, you are probably right that it is skewed Tor - 29/10/2012 09:10:27 PM 844 Views
Lots of people mean perfectly normal distribution when they say it HousealThor - 30/10/2012 05:25:35 PM 793 Views
Couldn't the Towers method of obtaining Aes Sedai be to blame? TheCrownless - 30/10/2012 12:04:01 AM 973 Views
Re: Couldn't the Towers method of obtaining Aes Sedai be to blame? Tor - 30/10/2012 09:33:44 AM 904 Views
Are you sure about that? TheCrownless - 30/10/2012 12:03:43 PM 897 Views
Re: Are you sure about that? Tor - 30/10/2012 12:19:34 PM 812 Views
That doesn't seem a coherent narrative to me TheCrownless - 30/10/2012 04:26:25 PM 1138 Views
Sharina did not have the Spark, nor did Nicola darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 05:16:40 PM 914 Views
Re: Sharina did not have the Spark, nor did Nicola TheCrownless - 30/10/2012 05:54:41 PM 788 Views
We do not know if Cadsuane or any of the Forsaken are Sparkers darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 10:33:55 PM 924 Views
Re: We do not know if Cadsuane or any of the Forsaken are Sparkers TheCrownless - 31/10/2012 12:30:52 AM 885 Views
A handful of examples are all we have and we have proof that an extremely strong Channeler darius_sedai - 31/10/2012 02:58:57 AM 773 Views
you're confusing 2 things Zaphod - 30/10/2012 04:27:32 AM 1061 Views
+1 *NM* Sidious - 30/10/2012 09:17:07 AM 933 Views
Re: you're confusing 2 things Simon - 30/10/2012 09:21:39 AM 919 Views
Not true... Shannow - 30/10/2012 11:49:57 AM 894 Views
One thing HousealThor - 30/10/2012 05:23:17 PM 879 Views
That's the problem. The BC RJ has "built" has a minimum and a maximum value darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 05:48:55 PM 889 Views
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