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I don't think it plays much role in the plot darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 30/10/2012 03:17:55 PM
1000 women of a potential field of perhaps millions is a tiny sample, especially when regionally skewed. All that added to the facts the author laid out make it obvious to me that these Novices are non-representative. Personally I think most of the purpose they served was to show that there are a huge number of potential Channelers in the world and that women like Sharina could be hidden almost anywhere


1000 is not a tiny sample, whether there were a million or a billon channeling women. That's just a fact.

However, it is certainly possible that Norther Alataran women are generally weak in the power. Personally, though, I believe Jordan just came up with some percentages to sound scientific, and didn't take the concequences of that in his writing. It's a shame we can't ask him what his thinking was.

Also, why do you bother discussing the bell curve if you feel it is perfectly reasonable for the author to disregard it if he wants to make the already obvious point that strong channelers could crop up anywhere?


Knowing it exists and having it effect the books are two different things. The author has creative license to introduce any strength Channelers he likes because the VAST majority of the Bell Curve will remain unseen and have no effect on the story. It only matters for these discussions.
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The Bell Curve revisited Shannow - 29/10/2012 09:44:09 AM 1660 Views
Re: The Bell Curve revisited Tor - 29/10/2012 10:21:27 AM 1035 Views
That's incorrect... Shannow - 29/10/2012 10:26:49 AM 1620 Views
Re: That's incorrect... Tor - 29/10/2012 10:36:32 AM 1002 Views
Re: That's incorrect... Shannow - 29/10/2012 10:40:27 AM 863 Views
Re: That's incorrect... Tor - 29/10/2012 10:42:57 AM 853 Views
Hehe...There are a few disputing it vocally. Whether they're in their right mind, well... Shannow - 29/10/2012 10:45:07 AM 957 Views
Re: Hehe...There are a few disputing it vocally. Whether they're in their right mind, well... Tor - 29/10/2012 10:49:49 AM 844 Views
Re: Hehe...There are a few disputing it vocally. Whether they're in their right mind, well... Shannow - 29/10/2012 10:56:37 AM 935 Views
It's only as skewed as it seems when you make the assumption that the Forsaken darius_sedai - 31/10/2012 04:34:11 AM 1178 Views
RJ the physicist didn't know math, so that Shannow could be right... fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 02:11:19 PM 944 Views
Response to a few of your poorly researched points... Shannow - 29/10/2012 02:31:17 PM 891 Views
Re: RJ the physicist didn't know math, so that Shannow could be right... Tor - 29/10/2012 02:37:33 PM 884 Views
Exactly... Shannow - 29/10/2012 02:39:30 PM 876 Views
there are dozens of reasons for this darius_sedai - 29/10/2012 08:18:18 PM 902 Views
Excellent point. fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 08:24:37 PM 930 Views
Re: there are dozens of reasons for this Tor - 29/10/2012 09:07:35 PM 853 Views
Again I don't argue that genetics play no role darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 01:57:24 AM 828 Views
Re: Again I don't argue that genetics play no role Tor - 30/10/2012 07:07:17 AM 835 Views
I don't think it plays much role in the plot darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 03:17:55 PM 990 Views
Once again just so,we are clear on my stance with Genetics and Strength darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 03:27:11 PM 848 Views
That the 1000 Novices aren't a random sample of the population? fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 08:23:47 PM 791 Views
And why would it be biased towards those with lower strength? Tor - 29/10/2012 09:11:25 PM 800 Views
Absolutely no reason... fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 01:35:35 AM 895 Views
Re: Absolutely no reason... Tor - 30/10/2012 06:43:54 AM 800 Views
Only if it was a random sampling. Which this is not. fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 01:58:34 PM 893 Views
That's exactly the point. I want you to explain why it wasn't random. Tor - 30/10/2012 02:14:59 PM 825 Views
It wasn't random because it was a self-selected sample! fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 02:43:03 PM 823 Views
Re: It wasn't random because it was a self-selected sample! Tor - 30/10/2012 02:47:30 PM 819 Views
Go read a stats text will you? fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 02:54:16 PM 810 Views
Done Tor - 31/10/2012 09:34:11 AM 1584 Views
You seem to have perfected whining to a Talent... fionwe1987 - 10/11/2012 10:14:19 PM 1098 Views
Re: You seem to have perfected whining to a Talent... Tor - 11/11/2012 11:37:16 AM 925 Views
Re: You seem to have perfected whining to a Talent... fionwe1987 - 11/11/2012 07:14:48 PM 775 Views
Re: You seem to have perfected whining to a Talent... Tor - 11/11/2012 08:33:59 PM 1596 Views
Re: You seem to have perfected whining to a Talent... Tor - 11/11/2012 08:43:19 PM 1157 Views
Seriously? I went and looked at some statistics books, and you won't even reply? Tor - 01/11/2012 12:13:49 PM 920 Views
Still nothing? Tor - 10/11/2012 03:33:15 PM 942 Views
Still doesn't explain the difference Praziquantel - 30/10/2012 07:01:53 PM 762 Views
Re: Still doesn't explain the difference fionwe1987 - 10/11/2012 10:21:00 PM 847 Views
Yes that totally makes sense Sidious - 30/10/2012 08:07:16 AM 934 Views
Thank you! *NM* Tor - 30/10/2012 10:19:15 AM 434 Views
That's not what happened... fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 02:01:52 PM 876 Views
Re: That's not what happened... Tor - 30/10/2012 02:15:57 PM 813 Views
Who said it would? fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 02:44:17 PM 836 Views
let's not mix up "random" and "representative" darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 05:28:09 PM 885 Views
Doesn't mean RJ applied it to his series Sidious - 30/10/2012 08:23:29 AM 903 Views
But of course he did.. fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 02:13:07 PM 942 Views
I hate to get into these things HousealThor - 29/10/2012 05:45:50 PM 975 Views
I would love for you to be right, because it would solve all our problems, but 0 is the challenge... Shannow - 29/10/2012 07:56:34 PM 962 Views
In the truest sense, you are probably right that it is skewed HousealThor - 29/10/2012 08:20:52 PM 958 Views
Overwhelm Lanfear, not match her. *NM* fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 08:26:09 PM 502 Views
Truth is, Moiraine was being overly optimistic... Shannow - 29/10/2012 08:39:17 PM 877 Views
You're pathetic... fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 01:20:01 AM 806 Views
The quote isn't specific Sidious - 30/10/2012 08:32:36 AM 920 Views
Its highly specific... fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 02:15:38 PM 754 Views
Yet neither of them are at full potential and at least equal a Forsaken darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 03:45:24 PM 1419 Views
Honestly! darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 02:07:37 AM 859 Views
Re: In the truest sense, you are probably right that it is skewed Tor - 29/10/2012 09:10:27 PM 875 Views
Lots of people mean perfectly normal distribution when they say it HousealThor - 30/10/2012 05:25:35 PM 817 Views
Couldn't the Towers method of obtaining Aes Sedai be to blame? TheCrownless - 30/10/2012 12:04:01 AM 998 Views
Re: Couldn't the Towers method of obtaining Aes Sedai be to blame? Tor - 30/10/2012 09:33:44 AM 931 Views
Are you sure about that? TheCrownless - 30/10/2012 12:03:43 PM 920 Views
Re: Are you sure about that? Tor - 30/10/2012 12:19:34 PM 840 Views
That doesn't seem a coherent narrative to me TheCrownless - 30/10/2012 04:26:25 PM 1176 Views
Sharina did not have the Spark, nor did Nicola darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 05:16:40 PM 947 Views
Re: Sharina did not have the Spark, nor did Nicola TheCrownless - 30/10/2012 05:54:41 PM 817 Views
We do not know if Cadsuane or any of the Forsaken are Sparkers darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 10:33:55 PM 954 Views
Re: We do not know if Cadsuane or any of the Forsaken are Sparkers TheCrownless - 31/10/2012 12:30:52 AM 908 Views
A handful of examples are all we have and we have proof that an extremely strong Channeler darius_sedai - 31/10/2012 02:58:57 AM 804 Views
you're confusing 2 things Zaphod - 30/10/2012 04:27:32 AM 1095 Views
+1 *NM* Sidious - 30/10/2012 09:17:07 AM 966 Views
Re: you're confusing 2 things Simon - 30/10/2012 09:21:39 AM 956 Views
Not true... Shannow - 30/10/2012 11:49:57 AM 928 Views
One thing HousealThor - 30/10/2012 05:23:17 PM 910 Views
That's the problem. The BC RJ has "built" has a minimum and a maximum value darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 05:48:55 PM 918 Views
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