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Yet neither of them are at full potential and at least equal a Forsaken darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 30/10/2012 03:45:24 PM
Only Rand, Mo, Aviendha and Egwene are in the room at that point.

Rand wants to go kill Rahvin and Moiraine says other might be there, and that 'these two' might be able to overwhelm one of them. Who will they overwhelm.... Ishamael? Moghedien? Does overwhelm mean that they are as powerful as one of the Forsaken or much stronger? We have no evidence either way. I

My personal opinion is that together that are about as strong as Lanfear/Ishamael. Nynaeve only had to be as strong as Moghedien to defeat her.


Your scale places Egwene and Aviendha's full potential at slightly above half of Lanfear, but at the time of this quote neither is at that potential and still combined they are considered strong enough to overwhelm a Foraken. Moiraine would be operating off of Nynaeve's full potential not her current strength here as she would know all the Forsaken would be at full potential. However, she would be operating off of Egwene and Aviendha's current strength as that is what would be relevant to the conversation of facing a Forsaken NOW.

On your scale Egwene may be as high as 50 at this time, but Aviendha could be no higher than a 30 as she has only just begun Channeling and there is no way that in only a few months she is already as strong as Moiraine. Thus combined they would only be an 80 and therefore nowhere near "overwhelming" a Forsaken.

Much more likely that Egwene is closer to 65-70 at this point and Aviendha 45-50 placing Moiraine around 50-55.
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The Bell Curve revisited Shannow - 29/10/2012 09:44:09 AM 1499 Views
Re: The Bell Curve revisited Tor - 29/10/2012 10:21:27 AM 897 Views
That's incorrect... Shannow - 29/10/2012 10:26:49 AM 1469 Views
Re: That's incorrect... Tor - 29/10/2012 10:36:32 AM 902 Views
Re: That's incorrect... Shannow - 29/10/2012 10:40:27 AM 748 Views
Re: That's incorrect... Tor - 29/10/2012 10:42:57 AM 747 Views
Hehe...There are a few disputing it vocally. Whether they're in their right mind, well... Shannow - 29/10/2012 10:45:07 AM 833 Views
Re: Hehe...There are a few disputing it vocally. Whether they're in their right mind, well... Tor - 29/10/2012 10:49:49 AM 735 Views
Re: Hehe...There are a few disputing it vocally. Whether they're in their right mind, well... Shannow - 29/10/2012 10:56:37 AM 813 Views
It's only as skewed as it seems when you make the assumption that the Forsaken darius_sedai - 31/10/2012 04:34:11 AM 1033 Views
RJ the physicist didn't know math, so that Shannow could be right... fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 02:11:19 PM 816 Views
Response to a few of your poorly researched points... Shannow - 29/10/2012 02:31:17 PM 762 Views
Re: RJ the physicist didn't know math, so that Shannow could be right... Tor - 29/10/2012 02:37:33 PM 778 Views
Exactly... Shannow - 29/10/2012 02:39:30 PM 775 Views
there are dozens of reasons for this darius_sedai - 29/10/2012 08:18:18 PM 793 Views
Excellent point. fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 08:24:37 PM 822 Views
Re: there are dozens of reasons for this Tor - 29/10/2012 09:07:35 PM 723 Views
Again I don't argue that genetics play no role darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 01:57:24 AM 699 Views
Re: Again I don't argue that genetics play no role Tor - 30/10/2012 07:07:17 AM 725 Views
I don't think it plays much role in the plot darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 03:17:55 PM 878 Views
Once again just so,we are clear on my stance with Genetics and Strength darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 03:27:11 PM 737 Views
That the 1000 Novices aren't a random sample of the population? fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 08:23:47 PM 677 Views
And why would it be biased towards those with lower strength? Tor - 29/10/2012 09:11:25 PM 682 Views
Absolutely no reason... fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 01:35:35 AM 784 Views
Re: Absolutely no reason... Tor - 30/10/2012 06:43:54 AM 685 Views
Only if it was a random sampling. Which this is not. fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 01:58:34 PM 772 Views
That's exactly the point. I want you to explain why it wasn't random. Tor - 30/10/2012 02:14:59 PM 693 Views
It wasn't random because it was a self-selected sample! fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 02:43:03 PM 708 Views
Re: It wasn't random because it was a self-selected sample! Tor - 30/10/2012 02:47:30 PM 707 Views
Go read a stats text will you? fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 02:54:16 PM 703 Views
Done Tor - 31/10/2012 09:34:11 AM 1374 Views
You seem to have perfected whining to a Talent... fionwe1987 - 10/11/2012 10:14:19 PM 963 Views
Re: You seem to have perfected whining to a Talent... Tor - 11/11/2012 11:37:16 AM 732 Views
Re: You seem to have perfected whining to a Talent... fionwe1987 - 11/11/2012 07:14:48 PM 661 Views
Re: You seem to have perfected whining to a Talent... Tor - 11/11/2012 08:33:59 PM 1402 Views
Re: You seem to have perfected whining to a Talent... Tor - 11/11/2012 08:43:19 PM 926 Views
Seriously? I went and looked at some statistics books, and you won't even reply? Tor - 01/11/2012 12:13:49 PM 742 Views
Still nothing? Tor - 10/11/2012 03:33:15 PM 716 Views
Still doesn't explain the difference Praziquantel - 30/10/2012 07:01:53 PM 649 Views
Re: Still doesn't explain the difference fionwe1987 - 10/11/2012 10:21:00 PM 731 Views
Yes that totally makes sense Sidious - 30/10/2012 08:07:16 AM 822 Views
Thank you! *NM* Tor - 30/10/2012 10:19:15 AM 380 Views
That's not what happened... fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 02:01:52 PM 745 Views
Re: That's not what happened... Tor - 30/10/2012 02:15:57 PM 707 Views
Who said it would? fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 02:44:17 PM 712 Views
let's not mix up "random" and "representative" darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 05:28:09 PM 777 Views
Doesn't mean RJ applied it to his series Sidious - 30/10/2012 08:23:29 AM 787 Views
But of course he did.. fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 02:13:07 PM 808 Views
I hate to get into these things HousealThor - 29/10/2012 05:45:50 PM 851 Views
I would love for you to be right, because it would solve all our problems, but 0 is the challenge... Shannow - 29/10/2012 07:56:34 PM 809 Views
In the truest sense, you are probably right that it is skewed HousealThor - 29/10/2012 08:20:52 PM 834 Views
Overwhelm Lanfear, not match her. *NM* fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 08:26:09 PM 413 Views
Truth is, Moiraine was being overly optimistic... Shannow - 29/10/2012 08:39:17 PM 753 Views
You're pathetic... fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 01:20:01 AM 695 Views
The quote isn't specific Sidious - 30/10/2012 08:32:36 AM 815 Views
Its highly specific... fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 02:15:38 PM 646 Views
Yet neither of them are at full potential and at least equal a Forsaken darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 03:45:24 PM 1301 Views
Honestly! darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 02:07:37 AM 746 Views
Re: In the truest sense, you are probably right that it is skewed Tor - 29/10/2012 09:10:27 PM 751 Views
Lots of people mean perfectly normal distribution when they say it HousealThor - 30/10/2012 05:25:35 PM 689 Views
Couldn't the Towers method of obtaining Aes Sedai be to blame? TheCrownless - 30/10/2012 12:04:01 AM 891 Views
Re: Couldn't the Towers method of obtaining Aes Sedai be to blame? Tor - 30/10/2012 09:33:44 AM 816 Views
Are you sure about that? TheCrownless - 30/10/2012 12:03:43 PM 818 Views
Re: Are you sure about that? Tor - 30/10/2012 12:19:34 PM 723 Views
That doesn't seem a coherent narrative to me TheCrownless - 30/10/2012 04:26:25 PM 1023 Views
Sharina did not have the Spark, nor did Nicola darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 05:16:40 PM 830 Views
Re: Sharina did not have the Spark, nor did Nicola TheCrownless - 30/10/2012 05:54:41 PM 714 Views
We do not know if Cadsuane or any of the Forsaken are Sparkers darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 10:33:55 PM 843 Views
Re: We do not know if Cadsuane or any of the Forsaken are Sparkers TheCrownless - 31/10/2012 12:30:52 AM 794 Views
A handful of examples are all we have and we have proof that an extremely strong Channeler darius_sedai - 31/10/2012 02:58:57 AM 630 Views
you're confusing 2 things Zaphod - 30/10/2012 04:27:32 AM 892 Views
+1 *NM* Sidious - 30/10/2012 09:17:07 AM 821 Views
Re: you're confusing 2 things Simon - 30/10/2012 09:21:39 AM 790 Views
Not true... Shannow - 30/10/2012 11:49:57 AM 803 Views
One thing HousealThor - 30/10/2012 05:23:17 PM 782 Views
That's the problem. The BC RJ has "built" has a minimum and a maximum value darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 05:48:55 PM 801 Views
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