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Re: none of which I've denied or tried to prove otherwise fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 26/01/2016 10:39:49 AM

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Okay but when Nynaeve shielded Logain she also described how her shield started to bend and almost break. Somehow Berowin has practiced her shielding so that it doesn't actually tear under any circumstances. This leaves the door open for better forms of shielding as I described in my post to Darius. If you can sever a person just by sharpening the edges then there is a lot of potential for tweaking.


I have no argument with Berowin's shield being different. It IS different. My argument is with the idea that the Forsaken use something like her shield. If so, it is remarkable that oth Nynaeve and Rand described shields woven by Moghedien and Lanfear as "walls" when trying to push against them.

The other side of this is that shielding a person while they are channeling isn't exactly the same as holding a shield on them. Do we think Berowin would have been able to cut off Nynaeve had she been channeling as much as she could?

We KNOW that landing a shield on a person channeling is a chancey thing. Nynaeve has told us that, and several of her scenes have demonstrated it. Which is why I'm skeptical that just because we've seen Aes Sedai land shields at some point, and not at others, we should ignore the evidence that their shields are similar to the Forsaken's.


We also have Suroth saying that Liandrin is "blocked in some way" and that may point to a different type of shield....? It's all reaching but there may be a science to shielding beyond "weave and throw".

Well Liandrin was blocked in some way. Suroth, as a non-channeler, doesn't necessarily have to use the word shield. In fact, we know the Forsaken use the word "buffer" for a shield, and we know the Seanchan call shields "blocks":
“I have borne the bracelet long, and I could tell if the marath’damane had done more than block Jini.”

This is the Sul'dam Rand and Aviendha encounter in tFoH. She calls Aviendha's shield a block, so it seems reasonable to assume another Sul'dam/damane used similar terminology to descirbe Liandrin's shield to Suroth.

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