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Re: Yes, but that's not what I'm arguing... Dunstan Send a noteboard - 08/10/2016 04:52:06 AM

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I agree. I also don't think a multiplier would work the way Rand's angreal did when he used it with the Choedan Kal against Asmodean. Asmodean and Rand both got exactly half of the CK, which doesn't make sense if it multiplied their strength. And then Rand was able to use his angreal at the same time, and it only added a small trickle. It didn't multiply the amount he was drawing through the CK. Unless angreal have some way of knowing your potential, rather than the amount of the OP you're drawing, I don't see how Rand only got a trickle more when also using the CK.

... Of course they "have some way of knowing". That being that there is no interaction between two different angreal whatsoever. Both are input.

They allow a channeler to safely hold more then they would normally(Likely by taking the strain themselves judging by the CK having melted. The OP is ACTUALLY moving through them after all), but They don't actually enhance a channelers base ability to hold the OP, and so don't stack with any other angreal they might be using at the time.

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Angreal, Sa'angreal and Moiraine at 66 Sidious - 11/01/2016 08:53:23 AM 2926 Views
Or we can choose to assume Elayne is incorrect darius_sedai - 11/01/2016 03:50:14 PM 1345 Views
Uhhh... fionwe1987 - 12/01/2016 12:07:42 AM 1479 Views
Yet there are problems with either darius_sedai - 15/01/2016 08:52:04 PM 1193 Views
Re: Yet there are problems with either Sidious - 16/01/2016 05:29:11 AM 1589 Views
Would you consider... Duke - 17/01/2016 09:06:59 AM 1292 Views
random thought on Shielding darius_sedai - 19/01/2016 07:34:20 PM 1337 Views
You're forgetting the other side, though. fionwe1987 - 19/01/2016 08:19:59 PM 1421 Views
yes but it doesn't proactively do this darius_sedai - 19/01/2016 10:06:25 PM 1290 Views
Responding to a shield doesn't require proactiveness fionwe1987 - 20/01/2016 05:53:24 AM 1206 Views
it's a visualization thing really darius_sedai - 20/01/2016 04:39:08 PM 1231 Views
Not the crux of the debate... fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 03:37:40 AM 1319 Views
Not really though darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 05:00:34 PM 1074 Views
I always explained it as fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 09:26:35 PM 1336 Views
There's not much to go on since all the shields except Berowyn's are the same darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 09:55:14 PM 1214 Views
That's precisely my point fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 10:09:02 PM 1297 Views
now you are speculating based on a lack of evidence darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 10:39:13 PM 1145 Views
There's actual evidence: fionwe1987 - 22/01/2016 06:25:25 AM 1318 Views
what's dense here is that you keep putting in quotes that don't support your position darius_sedai - 22/01/2016 03:28:16 PM 1491 Views
Whoa.. fionwe1987 - 22/01/2016 04:24:19 PM 1395 Views
Not at all darius_sedai - 22/01/2016 05:03:50 PM 1350 Views
Wonderful fionwe1987 - 22/01/2016 06:30:35 PM 1331 Views
yup that's my argument. that and you're a dick so I'm done with this darius_sedai - 22/01/2016 06:46:23 PM 1145 Views
Re: yup that's my argument. that and you're a dick so I'm done with this Sidious - 23/01/2016 02:35:33 PM 1561 Views
Petty much *NM* darius_sedai - 24/01/2016 02:50:32 PM 708 Views
Hmmm.... Sidious - 23/01/2016 03:06:15 PM 1539 Views
Let me clear this up darius_sedai - 25/01/2016 04:19:51 PM 1575 Views
Some more quotes fionwe1987 - 25/01/2016 05:10:51 PM 1332 Views
none of which I've denied or tried to prove otherwise darius_sedai - 25/01/2016 07:19:48 PM 1672 Views
Re: none of which I've denied or tried to prove otherwise fionwe1987 - 26/01/2016 03:45:52 AM 1331 Views
Re: none of which I've denied or tried to prove otherwise Sidious - 26/01/2016 09:00:55 AM 1638 Views
Re: none of which I've denied or tried to prove otherwise fionwe1987 - 26/01/2016 10:39:49 AM 1313 Views
from the very beginning of this conversation I've been saying I'm theorizing darius_sedai - 26/01/2016 04:09:19 PM 1216 Views
Oh well then I agree with you Sidious - 26/01/2016 08:50:55 AM 1526 Views
thanks darius_sedai - 26/01/2016 04:26:46 PM 1563 Views
Yes, but that's not what I'm arguing... fionwe1987 - 16/01/2016 08:56:15 AM 1136 Views
But additive doesn't explain buffers and being able to overdraw darius_sedai - 16/01/2016 03:02:33 PM 1189 Views
Don't those two facts explain each other? fionwe1987 - 16/01/2016 03:24:44 PM 1196 Views
It actually seems counterintuitive to me darius_sedai - 19/01/2016 07:15:37 PM 1133 Views
Simple fionwe1987 - 19/01/2016 08:21:11 PM 1258 Views
Not at all darius_sedai - 19/01/2016 10:17:39 PM 1062 Views
Huh? fionwe1987 - 20/01/2016 06:01:04 AM 1319 Views
agree to disagree I suppose ... I don't see it this way *NM* darius_sedai - 20/01/2016 04:41:16 PM 692 Views
I didn't sense disagreement so much as confusion over my position. *NM* fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 12:01:16 AM 657 Views
Re: I didn't sense disagreement so much as confusion over my position. darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 02:07:21 AM 1158 Views
Re: I didn't sense disagreement so much as confusion over my position. fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 03:32:59 AM 1216 Views
I don't necessarily think that's true darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 05:07:40 PM 1267 Views
I don't see how magnifiers solve this fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 10:01:17 PM 1234 Views
Re: I don't see how magnifiers solve this darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 10:16:16 PM 1202 Views
Uhhh... fionwe1987 - 22/01/2016 06:51:11 AM 1332 Views
Funny, I just saw this post darius_sedai - 17/09/2016 11:13:09 PM 1079 Views
The very first chapter (the Prologue) disproves this fionwe1987 - 03/10/2016 06:56:28 AM 1105 Views
No it doesn't darius_sedai - 05/10/2016 12:47:03 AM 1007 Views
Re: Don't those two facts explain each other? Dunstan - 08/10/2016 05:06:53 AM 994 Views
Re: Yes, but that's not what I'm arguing... Dunstan - 08/10/2016 04:52:06 AM 1159 Views
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