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You're the man, Wert. Joker Send a noteboard - 20/09/2009 03:29:41 AM
So where Werthead and you disagree is on Martin's intentions and effort: not being able to write his series (for whatever reason) is unfortunate. Not being willing to AND not being open about it is unprofessional. GRRM can give out mixed signals in his blog. But you can't blame a man for defending what he perceives as the absolute truth to the death. Neither you nor Werthead can read GRRM's mind so neither of you has evidence (as you rightly imply), but it is human nature to get heated up in passionate subjects and the debate thereof. So both of you calm down eh?


Maybe it's because I just switched the colour scheme to blue, but I assumed most people here would be aware of the situation that was known on Wotmania OF, namely that I'm a mod on Westeros.org and in particular am the person in charge of coallating all the information posted about ADWD over the last four years. I'm also in very occasional contact with GRRM and am a friend of his girlfriend. So I do actually 'know' about the situation rather than am just taking blind guesses about things.
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Now I understand why everyone has been bitching about a Dance of Dragons.... DREWRULESWOT! - 18/09/2009 12:36:21 AM 1212 Views
Welcome my son....welcome to the machine...... *NM* Animosity - 18/09/2009 03:06:36 AM 382 Views
lol Nice. *NM* Joker - 20/09/2009 12:28:08 AM 341 Views
It's not just that. He split A Feast for Crows into two. Tom - 18/09/2009 03:10:35 AM 508 Views
Re: It's not just that. He split A Feast for Crows into two. *NM* DREWRULESWOT! - 18/09/2009 04:04:06 AM 417 Views
Titles Werthead - 18/09/2009 04:15:24 AM 476 Views
Ok, Martin is published by Bantam...replace "Tor" with "Bantam" Tom - 18/09/2009 05:43:51 PM 498 Views
Nope, still doesn't work. Werthead - 18/09/2009 08:49:09 PM 469 Views
I would recommend you re-read my post - you're confusing me with someone else Tom - 18/09/2009 10:24:24 PM 435 Views
Re: Nope, still doesn't work. imlad - 18/09/2009 10:46:59 PM 363 Views
Is this the thread in which you'll FINALLY reveal... Joker - 20/09/2009 12:31:49 AM 392 Views
Remember what The Neil said: "GRRM is not your bitch!" *NM* Artsapat - 18/09/2009 07:32:47 AM 383 Views
I don't give a shit what Neil Gaiman thinks Tom - 18/09/2009 05:35:54 PM 390 Views
Gaiman = The Most Overrated Author of the New Milennium. *NM* Joker - 20/09/2009 12:33:10 AM 359 Views
In your opinion, of course. *NM* IndigoAjah - 20/09/2009 01:28:33 AM 348 Views
Yes, and this entire thread deals with opinions. Tom - 20/09/2009 01:52:21 AM 345 Views
I see the reason in that. IndigoAjah - 20/09/2009 02:13:46 AM 529 Views
I haven't even finished reading A Clash of Kings and I'm a touch annoyed by Martin already Brian - 20/09/2009 02:35:32 AM 457 Views
He might be a good comic book author, I don't know Tom - 20/09/2009 03:05:15 AM 412 Views
I see where there might be a misunderstanding. Werthead - 20/09/2009 03:05:24 AM 462 Views
You're the man, Wert. Joker - 20/09/2009 03:29:41 AM 440 Views
I can see my rule of not reading series that have not been finished is paying off. Camilla - 18/09/2009 11:00:37 AM 375 Views
Still ruling WOT, I see. How's that going? *NM* Craig - 18/09/2009 03:26:15 AM 331 Views
Very well, thanks DREWRULESWOT! - 18/09/2009 04:05:16 AM 408 Views
One thing I got to say about Robert Jordan... Crackbrained Asha'man - 18/09/2009 03:40:20 AM 514 Views
Sometimes ... Nate - 18/09/2009 05:07:18 AM 435 Views
I agree! heartbreak - 18/09/2009 01:39:04 PM 426 Views
Sometimes...Neil Gaiman should be thrown into a meat grinder. Tom - 18/09/2009 05:49:56 PM 471 Views
You paid for a product. You got a product. That is the end of the matter in its entirety. Werthead - 18/09/2009 09:03:05 PM 432 Views
Was this well out of line, by any chance? Tom - 18/09/2009 10:25:57 PM 468 Views
damn you are rude *NM* imlad - 18/09/2009 10:51:19 PM 342 Views
Gosh. This is pretty tiring. Tom - 18/09/2009 11:25:51 PM 484 Views
So this guy still hasn't been banned yet, why exactly? Werthead - 19/09/2009 04:13:05 PM 439 Views
For several reasons. *NM* Ghavrel - 19/09/2009 10:15:38 PM 327 Views
Get off your high horse. Someone disagrees with you. Deal with it. *NM* Joker - 20/09/2009 12:35:24 AM 329 Views
No, this guy is breaching the forum rules on attacks and insults. Werthead - 20/09/2009 02:57:20 AM 375 Views
What would you call a good start? Chas - 20/09/2009 03:25:46 AM 363 Views
Oh please. Grow some thicker skin. Joker - 20/09/2009 03:26:33 AM 372 Views
You think this behaviour would have been tolerated on Wotmania? It definitely would not have been. Werthead - 20/09/2009 03:31:20 AM 405 Views
That is factually incorrect. *NM* Chas - 20/09/2009 03:38:06 AM 331 Views
"It" would have been. "It" was. Ghavrel - 20/09/2009 05:45:14 AM 409 Views
Depends on which section of wotmania you're thinking about Larry - 20/09/2009 06:54:00 AM 402 Views
Precisely. *NM* Craig - 20/09/2009 07:30:12 AM 327 Views
I half agree... fionwe1987 - 20/09/2009 04:35:22 AM 392 Views
What's with the ad hominems, Tom? Larry - 20/09/2009 06:57:33 AM 370 Views
Nope, I'm someone simply a hell of a lot better informed about the situation then you. Deal with it. *NM* Werthead - 19/09/2009 02:40:07 AM 357 Views
"Than", not "then". Learn English while you're at it. *NM* Tom - 20/09/2009 01:47:56 AM 355 Views
Irony overdose. Again. Tashmere - 19/09/2009 06:28:49 AM 374 Views
WTF? Tom - 20/09/2009 01:49:23 AM 420 Views
fionwe1987 - 20/09/2009 03:00:53 AM 408 Views
I'd agree with you except for the fact that there was the 'promise'. *NM* Chas - 19/09/2009 05:59:21 PM 289 Views
that would be very counter productive imlad - 18/09/2009 10:50:01 PM 363 Views
Depends on what you want. Tom - 18/09/2009 11:26:54 PM 358 Views
Gaiman would just turn the episode into an amazing graphic novel as he died. *NM* IndigoAjah - 19/09/2009 01:06:30 PM 354 Views
That's the most valid point of the argument. Chas - 18/09/2009 11:54:26 PM 408 Views
Agreed. Werthead - 19/09/2009 03:02:48 AM 392 Views
Now to me that supports Tom's point about 'reliance theory'. Chas - 19/09/2009 05:55:28 PM 413 Views
But a promise was never made. Werthead - 19/09/2009 06:04:55 PM 402 Views
I think we're hung up on the definition of "promise." Craig - 19/09/2009 07:14:30 PM 373 Views
Who is GGK and where is his article? + my opinion on Martin Asharak - 19/09/2009 07:55:01 PM 418 Views
This is where the great divide comes into play Werthead - 19/09/2009 08:10:09 PM 397 Views
I think he should take a page out of RJ's book fionwe1987 - 19/09/2009 08:36:55 PM 434 Views
Excellent point. Werthead - 19/09/2009 10:09:36 PM 382 Views
Re: Excellent point. fionwe1987 - 20/09/2009 12:21:21 AM 403 Views
That would be the best policy. *NM* Chas - 19/09/2009 11:23:48 PM 309 Views
Re: Who is GGK and where is his article? + my opinion on Martin Chas - 19/09/2009 11:22:25 PM 453 Views
Re: I think we're hung up on the definition of "promise." Werthead - 19/09/2009 08:04:53 PM 378 Views
Exceptions prove the rule... Craig - 19/09/2009 08:42:39 PM 364 Views
Re: Exceptions prove the rule... Werthead - 19/09/2009 10:00:35 PM 359 Views
I think we're winding down here. Craig - 20/09/2009 07:41:15 AM 352 Views
Yeah. Chas - 19/09/2009 11:27:04 PM 416 Views
Don't mind me, I just can't post in the right place. *NM* Craig - 19/09/2009 07:13:25 PM 364 Views
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