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Yet neither of them are at full potential and at least equal a Forsaken darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 30/10/2012 03:45:24 PM
Only Rand, Mo, Aviendha and Egwene are in the room at that point.

Rand wants to go kill Rahvin and Moiraine says other might be there, and that 'these two' might be able to overwhelm one of them. Who will they overwhelm.... Ishamael? Moghedien? Does overwhelm mean that they are as powerful as one of the Forsaken or much stronger? We have no evidence either way. I

My personal opinion is that together that are about as strong as Lanfear/Ishamael. Nynaeve only had to be as strong as Moghedien to defeat her.


Your scale places Egwene and Aviendha's full potential at slightly above half of Lanfear, but at the time of this quote neither is at that potential and still combined they are considered strong enough to overwhelm a Foraken. Moiraine would be operating off of Nynaeve's full potential not her current strength here as she would know all the Forsaken would be at full potential. However, she would be operating off of Egwene and Aviendha's current strength as that is what would be relevant to the conversation of facing a Forsaken NOW.

On your scale Egwene may be as high as 50 at this time, but Aviendha could be no higher than a 30 as she has only just begun Channeling and there is no way that in only a few months she is already as strong as Moiraine. Thus combined they would only be an 80 and therefore nowhere near "overwhelming" a Forsaken.

Much more likely that Egwene is closer to 65-70 at this point and Aviendha 45-50 placing Moiraine around 50-55.
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The Bell Curve revisited Shannow - 29/10/2012 09:44:09 AM 1603 Views
Re: The Bell Curve revisited Tor - 29/10/2012 10:21:27 AM 977 Views
That's incorrect... Shannow - 29/10/2012 10:26:49 AM 1562 Views
Re: That's incorrect... Tor - 29/10/2012 10:36:32 AM 959 Views
Re: That's incorrect... Shannow - 29/10/2012 10:40:27 AM 823 Views
Re: That's incorrect... Tor - 29/10/2012 10:42:57 AM 804 Views
Hehe...There are a few disputing it vocally. Whether they're in their right mind, well... Shannow - 29/10/2012 10:45:07 AM 906 Views
Re: Hehe...There are a few disputing it vocally. Whether they're in their right mind, well... Tor - 29/10/2012 10:49:49 AM 805 Views
Re: Hehe...There are a few disputing it vocally. Whether they're in their right mind, well... Shannow - 29/10/2012 10:56:37 AM 887 Views
It's only as skewed as it seems when you make the assumption that the Forsaken darius_sedai - 31/10/2012 04:34:11 AM 1125 Views
RJ the physicist didn't know math, so that Shannow could be right... fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 02:11:19 PM 899 Views
Response to a few of your poorly researched points... Shannow - 29/10/2012 02:31:17 PM 844 Views
Re: RJ the physicist didn't know math, so that Shannow could be right... Tor - 29/10/2012 02:37:33 PM 842 Views
Exactly... Shannow - 29/10/2012 02:39:30 PM 837 Views
there are dozens of reasons for this darius_sedai - 29/10/2012 08:18:18 PM 855 Views
Excellent point. fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 08:24:37 PM 895 Views
Re: there are dozens of reasons for this Tor - 29/10/2012 09:07:35 PM 801 Views
Again I don't argue that genetics play no role darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 01:57:24 AM 776 Views
Re: Again I don't argue that genetics play no role Tor - 30/10/2012 07:07:17 AM 792 Views
I don't think it plays much role in the plot darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 03:17:55 PM 943 Views
Once again just so,we are clear on my stance with Genetics and Strength darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 03:27:11 PM 808 Views
That the 1000 Novices aren't a random sample of the population? fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 08:23:47 PM 742 Views
And why would it be biased towards those with lower strength? Tor - 29/10/2012 09:11:25 PM 755 Views
Absolutely no reason... fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 01:35:35 AM 846 Views
Re: Absolutely no reason... Tor - 30/10/2012 06:43:54 AM 759 Views
Only if it was a random sampling. Which this is not. fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 01:58:34 PM 844 Views
That's exactly the point. I want you to explain why it wasn't random. Tor - 30/10/2012 02:14:59 PM 771 Views
It wasn't random because it was a self-selected sample! fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 02:43:03 PM 779 Views
Re: It wasn't random because it was a self-selected sample! Tor - 30/10/2012 02:47:30 PM 780 Views
Go read a stats text will you? fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 02:54:16 PM 766 Views
Done Tor - 31/10/2012 09:34:11 AM 1533 Views
You seem to have perfected whining to a Talent... fionwe1987 - 10/11/2012 10:14:19 PM 1048 Views
Re: You seem to have perfected whining to a Talent... Tor - 11/11/2012 11:37:16 AM 871 Views
Re: You seem to have perfected whining to a Talent... fionwe1987 - 11/11/2012 07:14:48 PM 728 Views
Re: You seem to have perfected whining to a Talent... Tor - 11/11/2012 08:33:59 PM 1547 Views
Re: You seem to have perfected whining to a Talent... Tor - 11/11/2012 08:43:19 PM 1105 Views
Seriously? I went and looked at some statistics books, and you won't even reply? Tor - 01/11/2012 12:13:49 PM 882 Views
Still nothing? Tor - 10/11/2012 03:33:15 PM 869 Views
Still doesn't explain the difference Praziquantel - 30/10/2012 07:01:53 PM 715 Views
Re: Still doesn't explain the difference fionwe1987 - 10/11/2012 10:21:00 PM 794 Views
Yes that totally makes sense Sidious - 30/10/2012 08:07:16 AM 891 Views
Thank you! *NM* Tor - 30/10/2012 10:19:15 AM 414 Views
That's not what happened... fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 02:01:52 PM 834 Views
Re: That's not what happened... Tor - 30/10/2012 02:15:57 PM 768 Views
Who said it would? fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 02:44:17 PM 780 Views
let's not mix up "random" and "representative" darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 05:28:09 PM 846 Views
Doesn't mean RJ applied it to his series Sidious - 30/10/2012 08:23:29 AM 856 Views
But of course he did.. fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 02:13:07 PM 890 Views
I hate to get into these things HousealThor - 29/10/2012 05:45:50 PM 925 Views
I would love for you to be right, because it would solve all our problems, but 0 is the challenge... Shannow - 29/10/2012 07:56:34 PM 900 Views
In the truest sense, you are probably right that it is skewed HousealThor - 29/10/2012 08:20:52 PM 907 Views
Overwhelm Lanfear, not match her. *NM* fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 08:26:09 PM 484 Views
Truth is, Moiraine was being overly optimistic... Shannow - 29/10/2012 08:39:17 PM 829 Views
You're pathetic... fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 01:20:01 AM 760 Views
The quote isn't specific Sidious - 30/10/2012 08:32:36 AM 874 Views
Its highly specific... fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 02:15:38 PM 718 Views
Yet neither of them are at full potential and at least equal a Forsaken darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 03:45:24 PM 1380 Views
Honestly! darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 02:07:37 AM 814 Views
Re: In the truest sense, you are probably right that it is skewed Tor - 29/10/2012 09:10:27 PM 828 Views
Lots of people mean perfectly normal distribution when they say it HousealThor - 30/10/2012 05:25:35 PM 778 Views
Couldn't the Towers method of obtaining Aes Sedai be to blame? TheCrownless - 30/10/2012 12:04:01 AM 955 Views
Re: Couldn't the Towers method of obtaining Aes Sedai be to blame? Tor - 30/10/2012 09:33:44 AM 887 Views
Are you sure about that? TheCrownless - 30/10/2012 12:03:43 PM 880 Views
Re: Are you sure about that? Tor - 30/10/2012 12:19:34 PM 799 Views
That doesn't seem a coherent narrative to me TheCrownless - 30/10/2012 04:26:25 PM 1121 Views
Sharina did not have the Spark, nor did Nicola darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 05:16:40 PM 894 Views
Re: Sharina did not have the Spark, nor did Nicola TheCrownless - 30/10/2012 05:54:41 PM 772 Views
We do not know if Cadsuane or any of the Forsaken are Sparkers darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 10:33:55 PM 913 Views
Re: We do not know if Cadsuane or any of the Forsaken are Sparkers TheCrownless - 31/10/2012 12:30:52 AM 866 Views
A handful of examples are all we have and we have proof that an extremely strong Channeler darius_sedai - 31/10/2012 02:58:57 AM 761 Views
you're confusing 2 things Zaphod - 30/10/2012 04:27:32 AM 1037 Views
+1 *NM* Sidious - 30/10/2012 09:17:07 AM 913 Views
Re: you're confusing 2 things Simon - 30/10/2012 09:21:39 AM 892 Views
Not true... Shannow - 30/10/2012 11:49:57 AM 876 Views
One thing HousealThor - 30/10/2012 05:23:17 PM 861 Views
That's the problem. The BC RJ has "built" has a minimum and a maximum value darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 05:48:55 PM 868 Views
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