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Re: Sharina did not have the Spark, nor did Nicola TheCrownless Send a noteboard - 30/10/2012 05:54:41 PM

And Tarna and Theodrin were both Wilders (meaning they had the Spark) and neither of them are in the very top tiers of AS strength, which shows the Spark is not linked to strength. In fact there are many AS who had the Spark and are weak, we just don't see a ton of them onscreen. But they must exist since there is a special classification for them within AS hierarchy and we hear from Verin how many women come to the Tower with "tricks".


I'm sorry but that's a leap too far for me. A few outliers are not sufficient to make that kind of claim, especially when Theodrin nor Tarna are 'weak' and virtually all of the channellers stronger than Nicola (on the female side) are born with the spark.

I assume most things RJ implemented are literary devices, which is probably why we get grey areas like this.
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The Bell Curve revisited Shannow - 29/10/2012 09:44:09 AM 1560 Views
Re: The Bell Curve revisited Tor - 29/10/2012 10:21:27 AM 946 Views
That's incorrect... Shannow - 29/10/2012 10:26:49 AM 1525 Views
Re: That's incorrect... Tor - 29/10/2012 10:36:32 AM 939 Views
Re: That's incorrect... Shannow - 29/10/2012 10:40:27 AM 799 Views
Re: That's incorrect... Tor - 29/10/2012 10:42:57 AM 789 Views
Hehe...There are a few disputing it vocally. Whether they're in their right mind, well... Shannow - 29/10/2012 10:45:07 AM 887 Views
Re: Hehe...There are a few disputing it vocally. Whether they're in their right mind, well... Tor - 29/10/2012 10:49:49 AM 785 Views
Re: Hehe...There are a few disputing it vocally. Whether they're in their right mind, well... Shannow - 29/10/2012 10:56:37 AM 866 Views
It's only as skewed as it seems when you make the assumption that the Forsaken darius_sedai - 31/10/2012 04:34:11 AM 1089 Views
RJ the physicist didn't know math, so that Shannow could be right... fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 02:11:19 PM 866 Views
Response to a few of your poorly researched points... Shannow - 29/10/2012 02:31:17 PM 810 Views
Re: RJ the physicist didn't know math, so that Shannow could be right... Tor - 29/10/2012 02:37:33 PM 823 Views
Exactly... Shannow - 29/10/2012 02:39:30 PM 819 Views
there are dozens of reasons for this darius_sedai - 29/10/2012 08:18:18 PM 835 Views
Excellent point. fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 08:24:37 PM 871 Views
Re: there are dozens of reasons for this Tor - 29/10/2012 09:07:35 PM 778 Views
Again I don't argue that genetics play no role darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 01:57:24 AM 755 Views
Re: Again I don't argue that genetics play no role Tor - 30/10/2012 07:07:17 AM 774 Views
I don't think it plays much role in the plot darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 03:17:55 PM 921 Views
Once again just so,we are clear on my stance with Genetics and Strength darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 03:27:11 PM 782 Views
That the 1000 Novices aren't a random sample of the population? fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 08:23:47 PM 722 Views
And why would it be biased towards those with lower strength? Tor - 29/10/2012 09:11:25 PM 731 Views
Absolutely no reason... fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 01:35:35 AM 824 Views
Re: Absolutely no reason... Tor - 30/10/2012 06:43:54 AM 729 Views
Only if it was a random sampling. Which this is not. fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 01:58:34 PM 823 Views
That's exactly the point. I want you to explain why it wasn't random. Tor - 30/10/2012 02:14:59 PM 743 Views
It wasn't random because it was a self-selected sample! fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 02:43:03 PM 757 Views
Re: It wasn't random because it was a self-selected sample! Tor - 30/10/2012 02:47:30 PM 759 Views
Go read a stats text will you? fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 02:54:16 PM 743 Views
Done Tor - 31/10/2012 09:34:11 AM 1489 Views
You seem to have perfected whining to a Talent... fionwe1987 - 10/11/2012 10:14:19 PM 1011 Views
Re: You seem to have perfected whining to a Talent... Tor - 11/11/2012 11:37:16 AM 848 Views
Re: You seem to have perfected whining to a Talent... fionwe1987 - 11/11/2012 07:14:48 PM 708 Views
Re: You seem to have perfected whining to a Talent... Tor - 11/11/2012 08:33:59 PM 1518 Views
Re: You seem to have perfected whining to a Talent... Tor - 11/11/2012 08:43:19 PM 1066 Views
Seriously? I went and looked at some statistics books, and you won't even reply? Tor - 01/11/2012 12:13:49 PM 860 Views
Still nothing? Tor - 10/11/2012 03:33:15 PM 839 Views
Still doesn't explain the difference Praziquantel - 30/10/2012 07:01:53 PM 694 Views
Re: Still doesn't explain the difference fionwe1987 - 10/11/2012 10:21:00 PM 779 Views
Yes that totally makes sense Sidious - 30/10/2012 08:07:16 AM 867 Views
Thank you! *NM* Tor - 30/10/2012 10:19:15 AM 402 Views
That's not what happened... fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 02:01:52 PM 812 Views
Re: That's not what happened... Tor - 30/10/2012 02:15:57 PM 749 Views
Who said it would? fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 02:44:17 PM 755 Views
let's not mix up "random" and "representative" darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 05:28:09 PM 824 Views
Doesn't mean RJ applied it to his series Sidious - 30/10/2012 08:23:29 AM 831 Views
But of course he did.. fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 02:13:07 PM 861 Views
I hate to get into these things HousealThor - 29/10/2012 05:45:50 PM 899 Views
I would love for you to be right, because it would solve all our problems, but 0 is the challenge... Shannow - 29/10/2012 07:56:34 PM 862 Views
In the truest sense, you are probably right that it is skewed HousealThor - 29/10/2012 08:20:52 PM 884 Views
Overwhelm Lanfear, not match her. *NM* fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 08:26:09 PM 453 Views
Truth is, Moiraine was being overly optimistic... Shannow - 29/10/2012 08:39:17 PM 804 Views
You're pathetic... fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 01:20:01 AM 742 Views
The quote isn't specific Sidious - 30/10/2012 08:32:36 AM 859 Views
Its highly specific... fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 02:15:38 PM 696 Views
Yet neither of them are at full potential and at least equal a Forsaken darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 03:45:24 PM 1344 Views
Honestly! darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 02:07:37 AM 792 Views
Re: In the truest sense, you are probably right that it is skewed Tor - 29/10/2012 09:10:27 PM 801 Views
Lots of people mean perfectly normal distribution when they say it HousealThor - 30/10/2012 05:25:35 PM 757 Views
Couldn't the Towers method of obtaining Aes Sedai be to blame? TheCrownless - 30/10/2012 12:04:01 AM 938 Views
Re: Couldn't the Towers method of obtaining Aes Sedai be to blame? Tor - 30/10/2012 09:33:44 AM 869 Views
Are you sure about that? TheCrownless - 30/10/2012 12:03:43 PM 862 Views
Re: Are you sure about that? Tor - 30/10/2012 12:19:34 PM 771 Views
That doesn't seem a coherent narrative to me TheCrownless - 30/10/2012 04:26:25 PM 1100 Views
Sharina did not have the Spark, nor did Nicola darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 05:16:40 PM 874 Views
Re: Sharina did not have the Spark, nor did Nicola TheCrownless - 30/10/2012 05:54:41 PM 754 Views
We do not know if Cadsuane or any of the Forsaken are Sparkers darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 10:33:55 PM 887 Views
Re: We do not know if Cadsuane or any of the Forsaken are Sparkers TheCrownless - 31/10/2012 12:30:52 AM 843 Views
A handful of examples are all we have and we have proof that an extremely strong Channeler darius_sedai - 31/10/2012 02:58:57 AM 726 Views
you're confusing 2 things Zaphod - 30/10/2012 04:27:32 AM 1005 Views
+1 *NM* Sidious - 30/10/2012 09:17:07 AM 873 Views
Re: you're confusing 2 things Simon - 30/10/2012 09:21:39 AM 848 Views
Not true... Shannow - 30/10/2012 11:49:57 AM 844 Views
One thing HousealThor - 30/10/2012 05:23:17 PM 832 Views
That's the problem. The BC RJ has "built" has a minimum and a maximum value darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 05:48:55 PM 848 Views
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