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I don't see how magnifiers solve this fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 21/01/2016 10:01:17 PM

If sa'angreal are magnifiers, how are we explaining bufferless ones? Take Callandor. Let's say it magnifies by 100X and you're still safe. So if you overdraw and draw in 200X, aren't you still saying "a lack of a buffer allows access to additional power beyond what the angreal was designed for"??

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Angreal, Sa'angreal and Moiraine at 66 Sidious - 11/01/2016 08:53:23 AM 2140 Views
Or we can choose to assume Elayne is incorrect darius_sedai - 11/01/2016 03:50:14 PM 1006 Views
Uhhh... fionwe1987 - 12/01/2016 12:07:42 AM 1130 Views
Yet there are problems with either darius_sedai - 15/01/2016 08:52:04 PM 819 Views
Re: Yet there are problems with either Sidious - 16/01/2016 05:29:11 AM 1081 Views
Would you consider... Duke - 17/01/2016 09:06:59 AM 943 Views
random thought on Shielding darius_sedai - 19/01/2016 07:34:20 PM 1003 Views
You're forgetting the other side, though. fionwe1987 - 19/01/2016 08:19:59 PM 1066 Views
yes but it doesn't proactively do this darius_sedai - 19/01/2016 10:06:25 PM 927 Views
Responding to a shield doesn't require proactiveness fionwe1987 - 20/01/2016 05:53:24 AM 823 Views
it's a visualization thing really darius_sedai - 20/01/2016 04:39:08 PM 878 Views
Not the crux of the debate... fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 03:37:40 AM 968 Views
Not really though darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 05:00:34 PM 734 Views
I always explained it as fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 09:26:35 PM 972 Views
There's not much to go on since all the shields except Berowyn's are the same darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 09:55:14 PM 840 Views
That's precisely my point fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 10:09:02 PM 981 Views
now you are speculating based on a lack of evidence darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 10:39:13 PM 803 Views
There's actual evidence: fionwe1987 - 22/01/2016 06:25:25 AM 994 Views
what's dense here is that you keep putting in quotes that don't support your position darius_sedai - 22/01/2016 03:28:16 PM 1113 Views
Whoa.. fionwe1987 - 22/01/2016 04:24:19 PM 1062 Views
Not at all darius_sedai - 22/01/2016 05:03:50 PM 1009 Views
Wonderful fionwe1987 - 22/01/2016 06:30:35 PM 983 Views
yup that's my argument. that and you're a dick so I'm done with this darius_sedai - 22/01/2016 06:46:23 PM 801 Views
Re: yup that's my argument. that and you're a dick so I'm done with this Sidious - 23/01/2016 02:35:33 PM 1099 Views
Petty much *NM* darius_sedai - 24/01/2016 02:50:32 PM 441 Views
Hmmm.... Sidious - 23/01/2016 03:06:15 PM 1050 Views
Let me clear this up darius_sedai - 25/01/2016 04:19:51 PM 1189 Views
Some more quotes fionwe1987 - 25/01/2016 05:10:51 PM 947 Views
none of which I've denied or tried to prove otherwise darius_sedai - 25/01/2016 07:19:48 PM 1240 Views
Re: none of which I've denied or tried to prove otherwise fionwe1987 - 26/01/2016 03:45:52 AM 1014 Views
Re: none of which I've denied or tried to prove otherwise Sidious - 26/01/2016 09:00:55 AM 1156 Views
Re: none of which I've denied or tried to prove otherwise fionwe1987 - 26/01/2016 10:39:49 AM 945 Views
from the very beginning of this conversation I've been saying I'm theorizing darius_sedai - 26/01/2016 04:09:19 PM 852 Views
Oh well then I agree with you Sidious - 26/01/2016 08:50:55 AM 1058 Views
thanks darius_sedai - 26/01/2016 04:26:46 PM 1215 Views
Yes, but that's not what I'm arguing... fionwe1987 - 16/01/2016 08:56:15 AM 785 Views
But additive doesn't explain buffers and being able to overdraw darius_sedai - 16/01/2016 03:02:33 PM 817 Views
Don't those two facts explain each other? fionwe1987 - 16/01/2016 03:24:44 PM 855 Views
It actually seems counterintuitive to me darius_sedai - 19/01/2016 07:15:37 PM 800 Views
Simple fionwe1987 - 19/01/2016 08:21:11 PM 920 Views
Not at all darius_sedai - 19/01/2016 10:17:39 PM 708 Views
Huh? fionwe1987 - 20/01/2016 06:01:04 AM 923 Views
agree to disagree I suppose ... I don't see it this way *NM* darius_sedai - 20/01/2016 04:41:16 PM 498 Views
I didn't sense disagreement so much as confusion over my position. *NM* fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 12:01:16 AM 477 Views
Re: I didn't sense disagreement so much as confusion over my position. darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 02:07:21 AM 826 Views
Re: I didn't sense disagreement so much as confusion over my position. fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 03:32:59 AM 844 Views
I don't necessarily think that's true darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 05:07:40 PM 918 Views
I don't see how magnifiers solve this fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 10:01:17 PM 905 Views
Re: I don't see how magnifiers solve this darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 10:16:16 PM 846 Views
Uhhh... fionwe1987 - 22/01/2016 06:51:11 AM 993 Views
Funny, I just saw this post darius_sedai - 17/09/2016 11:13:09 PM 713 Views
The very first chapter (the Prologue) disproves this fionwe1987 - 03/10/2016 06:56:28 AM 786 Views
No it doesn't darius_sedai - 05/10/2016 12:47:03 AM 681 Views
Re: Don't those two facts explain each other? Dunstan - 08/10/2016 05:06:53 AM 582 Views
Re: Yes, but that's not what I'm arguing... Dunstan - 08/10/2016 04:52:06 AM 799 Views
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