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I don't see how magnifiers solve this fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 21/01/2016 10:01:17 PM

If sa'angreal are magnifiers, how are we explaining bufferless ones? Take Callandor. Let's say it magnifies by 100X and you're still safe. So if you overdraw and draw in 200X, aren't you still saying "a lack of a buffer allows access to additional power beyond what the angreal was designed for"??

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Angreal, Sa'angreal and Moiraine at 66 Sidious - 11/01/2016 08:53:23 AM 2136 Views
Or we can choose to assume Elayne is incorrect darius_sedai - 11/01/2016 03:50:14 PM 1002 Views
Uhhh... fionwe1987 - 12/01/2016 12:07:42 AM 1126 Views
Yet there are problems with either darius_sedai - 15/01/2016 08:52:04 PM 815 Views
Re: Yet there are problems with either Sidious - 16/01/2016 05:29:11 AM 1077 Views
Would you consider... Duke - 17/01/2016 09:06:59 AM 939 Views
random thought on Shielding darius_sedai - 19/01/2016 07:34:20 PM 999 Views
You're forgetting the other side, though. fionwe1987 - 19/01/2016 08:19:59 PM 1061 Views
yes but it doesn't proactively do this darius_sedai - 19/01/2016 10:06:25 PM 923 Views
Responding to a shield doesn't require proactiveness fionwe1987 - 20/01/2016 05:53:24 AM 819 Views
it's a visualization thing really darius_sedai - 20/01/2016 04:39:08 PM 873 Views
Not the crux of the debate... fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 03:37:40 AM 962 Views
Not really though darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 05:00:34 PM 729 Views
I always explained it as fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 09:26:35 PM 968 Views
There's not much to go on since all the shields except Berowyn's are the same darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 09:55:14 PM 835 Views
That's precisely my point fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 10:09:02 PM 976 Views
now you are speculating based on a lack of evidence darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 10:39:13 PM 798 Views
There's actual evidence: fionwe1987 - 22/01/2016 06:25:25 AM 989 Views
what's dense here is that you keep putting in quotes that don't support your position darius_sedai - 22/01/2016 03:28:16 PM 1109 Views
Whoa.. fionwe1987 - 22/01/2016 04:24:19 PM 1057 Views
Not at all darius_sedai - 22/01/2016 05:03:50 PM 1005 Views
Wonderful fionwe1987 - 22/01/2016 06:30:35 PM 979 Views
yup that's my argument. that and you're a dick so I'm done with this darius_sedai - 22/01/2016 06:46:23 PM 797 Views
Re: yup that's my argument. that and you're a dick so I'm done with this Sidious - 23/01/2016 02:35:33 PM 1095 Views
Petty much *NM* darius_sedai - 24/01/2016 02:50:32 PM 439 Views
Hmmm.... Sidious - 23/01/2016 03:06:15 PM 1045 Views
Let me clear this up darius_sedai - 25/01/2016 04:19:51 PM 1185 Views
Some more quotes fionwe1987 - 25/01/2016 05:10:51 PM 943 Views
none of which I've denied or tried to prove otherwise darius_sedai - 25/01/2016 07:19:48 PM 1236 Views
Re: none of which I've denied or tried to prove otherwise fionwe1987 - 26/01/2016 03:45:52 AM 1010 Views
Re: none of which I've denied or tried to prove otherwise Sidious - 26/01/2016 09:00:55 AM 1151 Views
Re: none of which I've denied or tried to prove otherwise fionwe1987 - 26/01/2016 10:39:49 AM 941 Views
from the very beginning of this conversation I've been saying I'm theorizing darius_sedai - 26/01/2016 04:09:19 PM 848 Views
Oh well then I agree with you Sidious - 26/01/2016 08:50:55 AM 1053 Views
thanks darius_sedai - 26/01/2016 04:26:46 PM 1209 Views
Yes, but that's not what I'm arguing... fionwe1987 - 16/01/2016 08:56:15 AM 780 Views
But additive doesn't explain buffers and being able to overdraw darius_sedai - 16/01/2016 03:02:33 PM 813 Views
Don't those two facts explain each other? fionwe1987 - 16/01/2016 03:24:44 PM 851 Views
It actually seems counterintuitive to me darius_sedai - 19/01/2016 07:15:37 PM 796 Views
Simple fionwe1987 - 19/01/2016 08:21:11 PM 916 Views
Not at all darius_sedai - 19/01/2016 10:17:39 PM 704 Views
Huh? fionwe1987 - 20/01/2016 06:01:04 AM 919 Views
agree to disagree I suppose ... I don't see it this way *NM* darius_sedai - 20/01/2016 04:41:16 PM 496 Views
I didn't sense disagreement so much as confusion over my position. *NM* fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 12:01:16 AM 475 Views
Re: I didn't sense disagreement so much as confusion over my position. darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 02:07:21 AM 822 Views
Re: I didn't sense disagreement so much as confusion over my position. fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 03:32:59 AM 840 Views
I don't necessarily think that's true darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 05:07:40 PM 914 Views
I don't see how magnifiers solve this fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 10:01:17 PM 899 Views
Re: I don't see how magnifiers solve this darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 10:16:16 PM 842 Views
Uhhh... fionwe1987 - 22/01/2016 06:51:11 AM 989 Views
Funny, I just saw this post darius_sedai - 17/09/2016 11:13:09 PM 708 Views
The very first chapter (the Prologue) disproves this fionwe1987 - 03/10/2016 06:56:28 AM 782 Views
No it doesn't darius_sedai - 05/10/2016 12:47:03 AM 677 Views
Re: Don't those two facts explain each other? Dunstan - 08/10/2016 05:06:53 AM 578 Views
Re: Yes, but that's not what I'm arguing... Dunstan - 08/10/2016 04:52:06 AM 795 Views
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