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I don't see how magnifiers solve this fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 21/01/2016 10:01:17 PM

If sa'angreal are magnifiers, how are we explaining bufferless ones? Take Callandor. Let's say it magnifies by 100X and you're still safe. So if you overdraw and draw in 200X, aren't you still saying "a lack of a buffer allows access to additional power beyond what the angreal was designed for"??

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Angreal, Sa'angreal and Moiraine at 66 Sidious - 11/01/2016 08:53:23 AM 3058 Views
Or we can choose to assume Elayne is incorrect darius_sedai - 11/01/2016 03:50:14 PM 1407 Views
Uhhh... fionwe1987 - 12/01/2016 12:07:42 AM 1545 Views
Yet there are problems with either darius_sedai - 15/01/2016 08:52:04 PM 1268 Views
Re: Yet there are problems with either Sidious - 16/01/2016 05:29:11 AM 1652 Views
Would you consider... Duke - 17/01/2016 09:06:59 AM 1332 Views
random thought on Shielding darius_sedai - 19/01/2016 07:34:20 PM 1404 Views
You're forgetting the other side, though. fionwe1987 - 19/01/2016 08:19:59 PM 1499 Views
yes but it doesn't proactively do this darius_sedai - 19/01/2016 10:06:25 PM 1341 Views
Responding to a shield doesn't require proactiveness fionwe1987 - 20/01/2016 05:53:24 AM 1260 Views
it's a visualization thing really darius_sedai - 20/01/2016 04:39:08 PM 1294 Views
Not the crux of the debate... fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 03:37:40 AM 1375 Views
Not really though darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 05:00:34 PM 1131 Views
I always explained it as fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 09:26:35 PM 1402 Views
There's not much to go on since all the shields except Berowyn's are the same darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 09:55:14 PM 1260 Views
That's precisely my point fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 10:09:02 PM 1364 Views
now you are speculating based on a lack of evidence darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 10:39:13 PM 1208 Views
There's actual evidence: fionwe1987 - 22/01/2016 06:25:25 AM 1374 Views
what's dense here is that you keep putting in quotes that don't support your position darius_sedai - 22/01/2016 03:28:16 PM 1559 Views
Whoa.. fionwe1987 - 22/01/2016 04:24:19 PM 1440 Views
Not at all darius_sedai - 22/01/2016 05:03:50 PM 1383 Views
Wonderful fionwe1987 - 22/01/2016 06:30:35 PM 1374 Views
yup that's my argument. that and you're a dick so I'm done with this darius_sedai - 22/01/2016 06:46:23 PM 1201 Views
Re: yup that's my argument. that and you're a dick so I'm done with this Sidious - 23/01/2016 02:35:33 PM 1615 Views
Petty much *NM* darius_sedai - 24/01/2016 02:50:32 PM 732 Views
Hmmm.... Sidious - 23/01/2016 03:06:15 PM 1611 Views
Let me clear this up darius_sedai - 25/01/2016 04:19:51 PM 1638 Views
Some more quotes fionwe1987 - 25/01/2016 05:10:51 PM 1393 Views
none of which I've denied or tried to prove otherwise darius_sedai - 25/01/2016 07:19:48 PM 1740 Views
Re: none of which I've denied or tried to prove otherwise fionwe1987 - 26/01/2016 03:45:52 AM 1381 Views
Re: none of which I've denied or tried to prove otherwise Sidious - 26/01/2016 09:00:55 AM 1685 Views
Re: none of which I've denied or tried to prove otherwise fionwe1987 - 26/01/2016 10:39:49 AM 1363 Views
from the very beginning of this conversation I've been saying I'm theorizing darius_sedai - 26/01/2016 04:09:19 PM 1275 Views
Oh well then I agree with you Sidious - 26/01/2016 08:50:55 AM 1607 Views
thanks darius_sedai - 26/01/2016 04:26:46 PM 1623 Views
Yes, but that's not what I'm arguing... fionwe1987 - 16/01/2016 08:56:15 AM 1208 Views
But additive doesn't explain buffers and being able to overdraw darius_sedai - 16/01/2016 03:02:33 PM 1258 Views
Don't those two facts explain each other? fionwe1987 - 16/01/2016 03:24:44 PM 1258 Views
It actually seems counterintuitive to me darius_sedai - 19/01/2016 07:15:37 PM 1199 Views
Simple fionwe1987 - 19/01/2016 08:21:11 PM 1319 Views
Not at all darius_sedai - 19/01/2016 10:17:39 PM 1112 Views
Huh? fionwe1987 - 20/01/2016 06:01:04 AM 1381 Views
agree to disagree I suppose ... I don't see it this way *NM* darius_sedai - 20/01/2016 04:41:16 PM 733 Views
I didn't sense disagreement so much as confusion over my position. *NM* fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 12:01:16 AM 694 Views
Re: I didn't sense disagreement so much as confusion over my position. darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 02:07:21 AM 1224 Views
Re: I didn't sense disagreement so much as confusion over my position. fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 03:32:59 AM 1267 Views
I don't necessarily think that's true darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 05:07:40 PM 1330 Views
I don't see how magnifiers solve this fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 10:01:17 PM 1305 Views
Re: I don't see how magnifiers solve this darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 10:16:16 PM 1266 Views
Uhhh... fionwe1987 - 22/01/2016 06:51:11 AM 1390 Views
Funny, I just saw this post darius_sedai - 17/09/2016 11:13:09 PM 1122 Views
The very first chapter (the Prologue) disproves this fionwe1987 - 03/10/2016 06:56:28 AM 1165 Views
No it doesn't darius_sedai - 05/10/2016 12:47:03 AM 1052 Views
Re: Don't those two facts explain each other? Dunstan - 08/10/2016 05:06:53 AM 1051 Views
Re: Yes, but that's not what I'm arguing... Dunstan - 08/10/2016 04:52:06 AM 1200 Views
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