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That's precisely my point fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 21/01/2016 10:09:02 PM

I don't think you can say the Aes Sedai shielding is only male optimized. Nynaeve used a typical AS shield against Moghedien, and Moggy's shield was no different. Nynaeve didn't comment on it. Similarly, no one thought Moggy's shield on Liandrin was different. Only the knot, which was made immensely complex.

Moghedien shielded Nyn in TAR, and she tried to break free and it was a solid wall, no flex reported.

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Angreal, Sa'angreal and Moiraine at 66 Sidious - 11/01/2016 08:53:23 AM 3218 Views
Or we can choose to assume Elayne is incorrect darius_sedai - 11/01/2016 03:50:14 PM 1471 Views
Uhhh... fionwe1987 - 12/01/2016 12:07:42 AM 1599 Views
Yet there are problems with either darius_sedai - 15/01/2016 08:52:04 PM 1330 Views
Re: Yet there are problems with either Sidious - 16/01/2016 05:29:11 AM 1714 Views
Would you consider... Duke - 17/01/2016 09:06:59 AM 1390 Views
random thought on Shielding darius_sedai - 19/01/2016 07:34:20 PM 1453 Views
You're forgetting the other side, though. fionwe1987 - 19/01/2016 08:19:59 PM 1543 Views
yes but it doesn't proactively do this darius_sedai - 19/01/2016 10:06:25 PM 1386 Views
Responding to a shield doesn't require proactiveness fionwe1987 - 20/01/2016 05:53:24 AM 1316 Views
it's a visualization thing really darius_sedai - 20/01/2016 04:39:08 PM 1346 Views
Not the crux of the debate... fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 03:37:40 AM 1437 Views
Not really though darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 05:00:34 PM 1198 Views
I always explained it as fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 09:26:35 PM 1449 Views
There's not much to go on since all the shields except Berowyn's are the same darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 09:55:14 PM 1309 Views
That's precisely my point fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 10:09:02 PM 1420 Views
now you are speculating based on a lack of evidence darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 10:39:13 PM 1269 Views
There's actual evidence: fionwe1987 - 22/01/2016 06:25:25 AM 1421 Views
what's dense here is that you keep putting in quotes that don't support your position darius_sedai - 22/01/2016 03:28:16 PM 1615 Views
Whoa.. fionwe1987 - 22/01/2016 04:24:19 PM 1481 Views
Not at all darius_sedai - 22/01/2016 05:03:50 PM 1447 Views
Wonderful fionwe1987 - 22/01/2016 06:30:35 PM 1441 Views
yup that's my argument. that and you're a dick so I'm done with this darius_sedai - 22/01/2016 06:46:23 PM 1255 Views
Re: yup that's my argument. that and you're a dick so I'm done with this Sidious - 23/01/2016 02:35:33 PM 1671 Views
Petty much *NM* darius_sedai - 24/01/2016 02:50:32 PM 745 Views
Hmmm.... Sidious - 23/01/2016 03:06:15 PM 1670 Views
Let me clear this up darius_sedai - 25/01/2016 04:19:51 PM 1696 Views
Some more quotes fionwe1987 - 25/01/2016 05:10:51 PM 1447 Views
none of which I've denied or tried to prove otherwise darius_sedai - 25/01/2016 07:19:48 PM 1792 Views
Re: none of which I've denied or tried to prove otherwise fionwe1987 - 26/01/2016 03:45:52 AM 1425 Views
Re: none of which I've denied or tried to prove otherwise Sidious - 26/01/2016 09:00:55 AM 1741 Views
Re: none of which I've denied or tried to prove otherwise fionwe1987 - 26/01/2016 10:39:49 AM 1417 Views
from the very beginning of this conversation I've been saying I'm theorizing darius_sedai - 26/01/2016 04:09:19 PM 1328 Views
Oh well then I agree with you Sidious - 26/01/2016 08:50:55 AM 1667 Views
thanks darius_sedai - 26/01/2016 04:26:46 PM 1680 Views
Yes, but that's not what I'm arguing... fionwe1987 - 16/01/2016 08:56:15 AM 1259 Views
But additive doesn't explain buffers and being able to overdraw darius_sedai - 16/01/2016 03:02:33 PM 1315 Views
Don't those two facts explain each other? fionwe1987 - 16/01/2016 03:24:44 PM 1314 Views
It actually seems counterintuitive to me darius_sedai - 19/01/2016 07:15:37 PM 1252 Views
Simple fionwe1987 - 19/01/2016 08:21:11 PM 1368 Views
Not at all darius_sedai - 19/01/2016 10:17:39 PM 1174 Views
Huh? fionwe1987 - 20/01/2016 06:01:04 AM 1436 Views
agree to disagree I suppose ... I don't see it this way *NM* darius_sedai - 20/01/2016 04:41:16 PM 761 Views
I didn't sense disagreement so much as confusion over my position. *NM* fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 12:01:16 AM 718 Views
Re: I didn't sense disagreement so much as confusion over my position. darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 02:07:21 AM 1263 Views
Re: I didn't sense disagreement so much as confusion over my position. fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 03:32:59 AM 1313 Views
I don't necessarily think that's true darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 05:07:40 PM 1379 Views
I don't see how magnifiers solve this fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 10:01:17 PM 1354 Views
Re: I don't see how magnifiers solve this darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 10:16:16 PM 1320 Views
Uhhh... fionwe1987 - 22/01/2016 06:51:11 AM 1439 Views
Funny, I just saw this post darius_sedai - 17/09/2016 11:13:09 PM 1180 Views
The very first chapter (the Prologue) disproves this fionwe1987 - 03/10/2016 06:56:28 AM 1203 Views
No it doesn't darius_sedai - 05/10/2016 12:47:03 AM 1096 Views
Re: Don't those two facts explain each other? Dunstan - 08/10/2016 05:06:53 AM 1110 Views
Re: Yes, but that's not what I'm arguing... Dunstan - 08/10/2016 04:52:06 AM 1262 Views
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