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That's precisely my point fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 21/01/2016 10:09:02 PM

I don't think you can say the Aes Sedai shielding is only male optimized. Nynaeve used a typical AS shield against Moghedien, and Moggy's shield was no different. Nynaeve didn't comment on it. Similarly, no one thought Moggy's shield on Liandrin was different. Only the knot, which was made immensely complex.

Moghedien shielded Nyn in TAR, and she tried to break free and it was a solid wall, no flex reported.

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Angreal, Sa'angreal and Moiraine at 66 Sidious - 11/01/2016 08:53:23 AM 3564 Views
Or we can choose to assume Elayne is incorrect darius_sedai - 11/01/2016 03:50:14 PM 1592 Views
Uhhh... fionwe1987 - 12/01/2016 12:07:42 AM 1733 Views
Yet there are problems with either darius_sedai - 15/01/2016 08:52:04 PM 1459 Views
Re: Yet there are problems with either Sidious - 16/01/2016 05:29:11 AM 1855 Views
Would you consider... Duke - 17/01/2016 09:06:59 AM 1501 Views
random thought on Shielding darius_sedai - 19/01/2016 07:34:20 PM 1577 Views
You're forgetting the other side, though. fionwe1987 - 19/01/2016 08:19:59 PM 1665 Views
yes but it doesn't proactively do this darius_sedai - 19/01/2016 10:06:25 PM 1517 Views
Responding to a shield doesn't require proactiveness fionwe1987 - 20/01/2016 05:53:24 AM 1435 Views
it's a visualization thing really darius_sedai - 20/01/2016 04:39:08 PM 1464 Views
Not the crux of the debate... fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 03:37:40 AM 1533 Views
Not really though darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 05:00:34 PM 1321 Views
I always explained it as fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 09:26:35 PM 1569 Views
There's not much to go on since all the shields except Berowyn's are the same darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 09:55:14 PM 1462 Views
That's precisely my point fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 10:09:02 PM 1523 Views
now you are speculating based on a lack of evidence darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 10:39:13 PM 1397 Views
There's actual evidence: fionwe1987 - 22/01/2016 06:25:25 AM 1551 Views
what's dense here is that you keep putting in quotes that don't support your position darius_sedai - 22/01/2016 03:28:16 PM 1736 Views
Whoa.. fionwe1987 - 22/01/2016 04:24:19 PM 1574 Views
Not at all darius_sedai - 22/01/2016 05:03:50 PM 1573 Views
Wonderful fionwe1987 - 22/01/2016 06:30:35 PM 1584 Views
yup that's my argument. that and you're a dick so I'm done with this darius_sedai - 22/01/2016 06:46:23 PM 1382 Views
Re: yup that's my argument. that and you're a dick so I'm done with this Sidious - 23/01/2016 02:35:33 PM 1794 Views
Petty much *NM* darius_sedai - 24/01/2016 02:50:32 PM 819 Views
Hmmm.... Sidious - 23/01/2016 03:06:15 PM 1791 Views
Let me clear this up darius_sedai - 25/01/2016 04:19:51 PM 1816 Views
Some more quotes fionwe1987 - 25/01/2016 05:10:51 PM 1563 Views
none of which I've denied or tried to prove otherwise darius_sedai - 25/01/2016 07:19:48 PM 1905 Views
Re: none of which I've denied or tried to prove otherwise fionwe1987 - 26/01/2016 03:45:52 AM 1544 Views
Re: none of which I've denied or tried to prove otherwise Sidious - 26/01/2016 09:00:55 AM 1846 Views
Re: none of which I've denied or tried to prove otherwise fionwe1987 - 26/01/2016 10:39:49 AM 1548 Views
from the very beginning of this conversation I've been saying I'm theorizing darius_sedai - 26/01/2016 04:09:19 PM 1455 Views
Oh well then I agree with you Sidious - 26/01/2016 08:50:55 AM 1789 Views
thanks darius_sedai - 26/01/2016 04:26:46 PM 1794 Views
Yes, but that's not what I'm arguing... fionwe1987 - 16/01/2016 08:56:15 AM 1393 Views
But additive doesn't explain buffers and being able to overdraw darius_sedai - 16/01/2016 03:02:33 PM 1444 Views
Don't those two facts explain each other? fionwe1987 - 16/01/2016 03:24:44 PM 1448 Views
It actually seems counterintuitive to me darius_sedai - 19/01/2016 07:15:37 PM 1366 Views
Simple fionwe1987 - 19/01/2016 08:21:11 PM 1538 Views
Not at all darius_sedai - 19/01/2016 10:17:39 PM 1312 Views
Huh? fionwe1987 - 20/01/2016 06:01:04 AM 1569 Views
agree to disagree I suppose ... I don't see it this way *NM* darius_sedai - 20/01/2016 04:41:16 PM 834 Views
I didn't sense disagreement so much as confusion over my position. *NM* fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 12:01:16 AM 769 Views
Re: I didn't sense disagreement so much as confusion over my position. darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 02:07:21 AM 1389 Views
Re: I didn't sense disagreement so much as confusion over my position. fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 03:32:59 AM 1446 Views
I don't necessarily think that's true darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 05:07:40 PM 1518 Views
I don't see how magnifiers solve this fionwe1987 - 21/01/2016 10:01:17 PM 1457 Views
Re: I don't see how magnifiers solve this darius_sedai - 21/01/2016 10:16:16 PM 1449 Views
Uhhh... fionwe1987 - 22/01/2016 06:51:11 AM 1584 Views
Funny, I just saw this post darius_sedai - 17/09/2016 11:13:09 PM 1299 Views
The very first chapter (the Prologue) disproves this fionwe1987 - 03/10/2016 06:56:28 AM 1304 Views
No it doesn't darius_sedai - 05/10/2016 12:47:03 AM 1221 Views
Re: Don't those two facts explain each other? Dunstan - 08/10/2016 05:06:53 AM 1253 Views
Re: Yes, but that's not what I'm arguing... Dunstan - 08/10/2016 04:52:06 AM 1388 Views
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