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Re: That's incorrect... Shannow Send a noteboard - 29/10/2012 10:40:27 AM
A Bell Curve is a perfectly normal distribution. Perfectly symmetrical. Otherwises it's not a Bell Curve.


Yes, but as I said, no real data is ever a perfect bell curve. When people say "it's a bell curve", they actually mean "it's reasonably well described by a bell curve".


Well, that's the solution I'm putting forward.

Which is that RJ actually misspoke when he called it a Bell Curve. In fact, he may have not entirely KNOWN the implications of calling it a Bell Curve.

Because we know that most channelers are weak and only a minority are very strong - and the Guide tells us this was also the distribution during the Age of Legends - and yet a Bell Curve would imply that there are as many channelers of Graendal's strength as there are of Sorilea's strength.

And this is clearly not the case, given that there are so many weak channelers but so incredibly few strong channelers.

To repeat my point: A perfect Bell Curve does not reflect the data from the books.
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The Bell Curve revisited Shannow - 29/10/2012 09:44:09 AM 1526 Views
Re: The Bell Curve revisited Tor - 29/10/2012 10:21:27 AM 911 Views
That's incorrect... Shannow - 29/10/2012 10:26:49 AM 1485 Views
Re: That's incorrect... Tor - 29/10/2012 10:36:32 AM 912 Views
Re: That's incorrect... Shannow - 29/10/2012 10:40:27 AM 764 Views
Re: That's incorrect... Tor - 29/10/2012 10:42:57 AM 757 Views
Hehe...There are a few disputing it vocally. Whether they're in their right mind, well... Shannow - 29/10/2012 10:45:07 AM 845 Views
Re: Hehe...There are a few disputing it vocally. Whether they're in their right mind, well... Tor - 29/10/2012 10:49:49 AM 749 Views
Re: Hehe...There are a few disputing it vocally. Whether they're in their right mind, well... Shannow - 29/10/2012 10:56:37 AM 824 Views
It's only as skewed as it seems when you make the assumption that the Forsaken darius_sedai - 31/10/2012 04:34:11 AM 1048 Views
RJ the physicist didn't know math, so that Shannow could be right... fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 02:11:19 PM 830 Views
Response to a few of your poorly researched points... Shannow - 29/10/2012 02:31:17 PM 773 Views
Re: RJ the physicist didn't know math, so that Shannow could be right... Tor - 29/10/2012 02:37:33 PM 791 Views
Exactly... Shannow - 29/10/2012 02:39:30 PM 788 Views
there are dozens of reasons for this darius_sedai - 29/10/2012 08:18:18 PM 806 Views
Excellent point. fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 08:24:37 PM 835 Views
Re: there are dozens of reasons for this Tor - 29/10/2012 09:07:35 PM 736 Views
Again I don't argue that genetics play no role darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 01:57:24 AM 715 Views
Re: Again I don't argue that genetics play no role Tor - 30/10/2012 07:07:17 AM 743 Views
I don't think it plays much role in the plot darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 03:17:55 PM 889 Views
Once again just so,we are clear on my stance with Genetics and Strength darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 03:27:11 PM 753 Views
That the 1000 Novices aren't a random sample of the population? fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 08:23:47 PM 691 Views
And why would it be biased towards those with lower strength? Tor - 29/10/2012 09:11:25 PM 697 Views
Absolutely no reason... fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 01:35:35 AM 794 Views
Re: Absolutely no reason... Tor - 30/10/2012 06:43:54 AM 698 Views
Only if it was a random sampling. Which this is not. fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 01:58:34 PM 784 Views
That's exactly the point. I want you to explain why it wasn't random. Tor - 30/10/2012 02:14:59 PM 708 Views
It wasn't random because it was a self-selected sample! fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 02:43:03 PM 723 Views
Re: It wasn't random because it was a self-selected sample! Tor - 30/10/2012 02:47:30 PM 722 Views
Go read a stats text will you? fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 02:54:16 PM 717 Views
Done Tor - 31/10/2012 09:34:11 AM 1453 Views
You seem to have perfected whining to a Talent... fionwe1987 - 10/11/2012 10:14:19 PM 977 Views
Re: You seem to have perfected whining to a Talent... Tor - 11/11/2012 11:37:16 AM 812 Views
Re: You seem to have perfected whining to a Talent... fionwe1987 - 11/11/2012 07:14:48 PM 677 Views
Re: You seem to have perfected whining to a Talent... Tor - 11/11/2012 08:33:59 PM 1484 Views
Re: You seem to have perfected whining to a Talent... Tor - 11/11/2012 08:43:19 PM 1006 Views
Seriously? I went and looked at some statistics books, and you won't even reply? Tor - 01/11/2012 12:13:49 PM 822 Views
Still nothing? Tor - 10/11/2012 03:33:15 PM 799 Views
Still doesn't explain the difference Praziquantel - 30/10/2012 07:01:53 PM 664 Views
Re: Still doesn't explain the difference fionwe1987 - 10/11/2012 10:21:00 PM 743 Views
Yes that totally makes sense Sidious - 30/10/2012 08:07:16 AM 835 Views
Thank you! *NM* Tor - 30/10/2012 10:19:15 AM 386 Views
That's not what happened... fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 02:01:52 PM 763 Views
Re: That's not what happened... Tor - 30/10/2012 02:15:57 PM 720 Views
Who said it would? fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 02:44:17 PM 722 Views
let's not mix up "random" and "representative" darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 05:28:09 PM 791 Views
Doesn't mean RJ applied it to his series Sidious - 30/10/2012 08:23:29 AM 803 Views
But of course he did.. fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 02:13:07 PM 823 Views
I hate to get into these things HousealThor - 29/10/2012 05:45:50 PM 866 Views
I would love for you to be right, because it would solve all our problems, but 0 is the challenge... Shannow - 29/10/2012 07:56:34 PM 821 Views
In the truest sense, you are probably right that it is skewed HousealThor - 29/10/2012 08:20:52 PM 845 Views
Overwhelm Lanfear, not match her. *NM* fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 08:26:09 PM 422 Views
Truth is, Moiraine was being overly optimistic... Shannow - 29/10/2012 08:39:17 PM 767 Views
You're pathetic... fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 01:20:01 AM 706 Views
The quote isn't specific Sidious - 30/10/2012 08:32:36 AM 825 Views
Its highly specific... fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 02:15:38 PM 661 Views
Yet neither of them are at full potential and at least equal a Forsaken darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 03:45:24 PM 1313 Views
Honestly! darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 02:07:37 AM 758 Views
Re: In the truest sense, you are probably right that it is skewed Tor - 29/10/2012 09:10:27 PM 763 Views
Lots of people mean perfectly normal distribution when they say it HousealThor - 30/10/2012 05:25:35 PM 704 Views
Couldn't the Towers method of obtaining Aes Sedai be to blame? TheCrownless - 30/10/2012 12:04:01 AM 905 Views
Re: Couldn't the Towers method of obtaining Aes Sedai be to blame? Tor - 30/10/2012 09:33:44 AM 830 Views
Are you sure about that? TheCrownless - 30/10/2012 12:03:43 PM 830 Views
Re: Are you sure about that? Tor - 30/10/2012 12:19:34 PM 738 Views
That doesn't seem a coherent narrative to me TheCrownless - 30/10/2012 04:26:25 PM 1056 Views
Sharina did not have the Spark, nor did Nicola darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 05:16:40 PM 846 Views
Re: Sharina did not have the Spark, nor did Nicola TheCrownless - 30/10/2012 05:54:41 PM 725 Views
We do not know if Cadsuane or any of the Forsaken are Sparkers darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 10:33:55 PM 857 Views
Re: We do not know if Cadsuane or any of the Forsaken are Sparkers TheCrownless - 31/10/2012 12:30:52 AM 805 Views
A handful of examples are all we have and we have proof that an extremely strong Channeler darius_sedai - 31/10/2012 02:58:57 AM 657 Views
you're confusing 2 things Zaphod - 30/10/2012 04:27:32 AM 971 Views
+1 *NM* Sidious - 30/10/2012 09:17:07 AM 834 Views
Re: you're confusing 2 things Simon - 30/10/2012 09:21:39 AM 805 Views
Not true... Shannow - 30/10/2012 11:49:57 AM 816 Views
One thing HousealThor - 30/10/2012 05:23:17 PM 791 Views
That's the problem. The BC RJ has "built" has a minimum and a maximum value darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 05:48:55 PM 811 Views
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