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I had forgotten about Brendas! darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 07/10/2012 05:15:52 AM
The cool eyed White was Brendas. We get conformation in LoC.

As for Talents, there's an RJ quote somewhere saying that a circle doesn't add up the Talents of its members. Their strengths in the five powers aren't added either. However, if various circle members have related or complementary Talents suited to a task, then you pick them no matter the strength because they can pass control of the circle around as need demands. We've seen from the bonding of Rand that two linked women can complete a single weave by passing control around. So you can pick a man and a woman with great Healing Talent, and link them with another man who may be uselss, and then have the man and woman pass control around based on what kind of Healing may be needed, since men are better than women in some aspects, and vice versa.

Likely the same kind of thing was done for ter'angreal.

Will reply to the rest of the stuff later, but agree with you on the other posts. Great job!


I'd love to see that quote if you dig it up... I was aware that the skill involved meant passing the link around, but haven't seen the bit about Talents and flow affinity ... Suppose it makes sense though.
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Again THANK YOU! - 11/10/2012 08:35:10 PM 1184 Views
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Because let's be honest, it's rarely a Talent and you both know it - 11/10/2012 04:44:27 PM 1428 Views
TY!!! - 11/10/2012 08:38:44 PM 1435 Views
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Re: You are basing this entire post on a fundamentally flawed premise - 12/10/2012 08:52:02 AM 1330 Views
Are you reading mine? - 13/10/2012 07:09:02 PM 1267 Views
Apoplexy, that is what is happening on my side of the screen - 11/10/2012 08:31:30 PM 1139 Views
the fact that Egwene is proven incorrect on this any number of times? - 12/10/2012 04:14:35 AM 1381 Views
THANK YOU!!! - 11/10/2012 08:26:49 PM 1294 Views
Re: Logain may be correct that Rand is stronger, but his reason is not correct - 04/10/2012 09:51:08 PM 1342 Views
to the point on the Circle - 06/10/2012 09:36:18 PM 1378 Views
Circles don't add the Talents... - 07/10/2012 03:34:47 AM 1321 Views
I had forgotten about Brendas! - 07/10/2012 05:15:52 AM 1333 Views
I've been thinking about this - 07/10/2012 10:11:22 PM 1264 Views
Circles give added precision, remember? - 07/10/2012 11:27:05 PM 1303 Views
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Circles of larger numbers give added benefit... - 08/10/2012 02:00:58 AM 1359 Views
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Highly doubtful... - 08/10/2012 01:36:47 PM 1293 Views
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Re: Meh, I don't really care all that much, I just don't think this adds up to the text. - 08/10/2012 05:57:04 PM 1312 Views
That is actually the crux of my issue - 08/10/2012 07:52:52 PM 1274 Views
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That's what makes a Talent a Talent.... - 04/10/2012 05:02:36 PM 1331 Views
There is so much evidence against this - 04/10/2012 08:04:45 PM 1393 Views
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Rand states straight out that gateway size is not OP strength dependent. - 05/10/2012 08:51:58 PM 1257 Views
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Please explain Androl then - 07/10/2012 09:48:54 PM 1343 Views
OMG. Androl DOES have a Talent. NO ONE is disputing that. - 11/10/2012 10:50:41 PM 1315 Views
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I disagree - 08/10/2012 08:08:04 PM 1280 Views
I sort of agree with Sidious there - 09/10/2012 03:03:54 PM 1287 Views
Re: Yes, Healing Talent is incredibly rare and only implies out of proportion ability... - 09/10/2012 02:37:10 PM 1469 Views
That has no relevance here - 09/10/2012 06:29:34 PM 1231 Views
Beonin's Gateway v. Egwene's v. Rand's v. Aviendha and Elayne Edit: made a math mistake - 06/10/2012 08:34:56 PM 1767 Views
This debate is restricted by the "largest Gateway possible" issue. And some added points to consider - 07/10/2012 04:09:33 AM 1262 Views
Re: This debate is restricted by the "largest Gateway possible" issue. - 07/10/2012 07:46:51 PM 1421 Views
I noticed that... - 07/10/2012 11:38:18 PM 1403 Views
Re: This debate is restricted by the "largest Gateway possible" issue. - 08/10/2012 05:47:57 PM 1261 Views
Re: This debate is restricted by the "largest Gateway possible" issue. - 09/10/2012 05:08:34 PM 1555 Views
On Healing and Yellows... - 09/10/2012 05:24:11 PM 1311 Views
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True - 07/10/2012 10:01:42 PM 1345 Views
Life skills and OP skills... - 02/10/2012 06:40:00 AM 1213 Views
Or the reverse could be true - 02/10/2012 08:43:37 AM 1379 Views
Re: Or the reverse could be true - 02/10/2012 09:12:28 AM 1417 Views
And Egwene was training to be Wisdom ... I don't know that any of this is true 100% of the time - 02/10/2012 04:55:30 PM 1341 Views
Re: And Egwene was training to be Wisdom ... I don't know that any of this is true 100% of the time - 03/10/2012 12:55:01 AM 1475 Views
The point is the same regardless - 03/10/2012 05:14:36 AM 1371 Views
Here's an answer to your original question - 06/10/2012 07:21:27 AM 1437 Views
*takes a bow* ... thanks for finding that quote! *NM* - 06/10/2012 08:41:49 PM 696 Views
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You misunderstand the nature of the Yellow - 02/10/2012 05:06:20 PM 1378 Views
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Trollocs have dreams - 05/10/2012 06:39:49 PM 1464 Views
XKCD is on the case! - 03/10/2012 06:05:54 AM 1333 Views
Re: Problems with gateways - 04/10/2012 03:10:48 PM 1194 Views

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