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On Healing and Yellows... fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 09/10/2012 05:24:11 PM
Its worth noting that the moment Nynaeve showed her weave to Heal Siuan, the Yellows started discussing ways to use Earth and Fire in healing problems. One started talking about using fire in problems of the heart (which is obvious... electrical rhythms can be restored with Fire) a minute after she saw that Fire was safe to use in Healing.

Later, we have Egwene say that the Yellows had taken what Nynaeve had made and created a marvelous set of weaves.

All this points to me that Yellows are far from the picture that is painted of them. Notice that Suana has a herb garden. It seems to me that Healing as weave only is a concept only non-Yellows subscribe to. Yellows, I think, are happy to use anything that helps repair what is broken, and were held back by Tower tradition and lack of experimentation rather than affinity for specific Healing.
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It's been discussed before... - 28/09/2012 06:04:35 PM 1661 Views
I would agree with this - 28/09/2012 06:35:14 PM 1327 Views
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Here's a neat idea - 28/09/2012 08:07:52 PM 1490 Views
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Absurd question... - 28/09/2012 10:44:53 PM 1389 Views
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Re: I disagree with Logain being a credible source on this - 03/10/2012 07:43:12 AM 1385 Views
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Re-read some stuff - 04/10/2012 07:57:50 PM 1395 Views
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Um she tries out of desperation? - 05/10/2012 03:06:59 PM 1360 Views
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I think he did - 08/10/2012 05:32:35 PM 1347 Views
Maybe - 08/10/2012 07:48:24 PM 1252 Views
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Re: Exactly... - 10/10/2012 10:06:08 PM 1285 Views
AND... - 10/10/2012 10:15:14 PM 1152 Views
Re: AND... - 11/10/2012 04:46:31 PM 1338 Views
Again THANK YOU! - 11/10/2012 08:35:10 PM 1132 Views
Re: AND... - 12/10/2012 04:09:25 AM 1256 Views
Re: AND... - 12/10/2012 08:57:46 AM 1311 Views
Because let's be honest, it's rarely a Talent and you both know it - 11/10/2012 04:44:27 PM 1339 Views
TY!!! - 11/10/2012 08:38:44 PM 1346 Views
You are basing this entire post on a fundamentally flawed premise - 12/10/2012 04:13:06 AM 1497 Views
Re: You are basing this entire post on a fundamentally flawed premise - 12/10/2012 08:52:02 AM 1284 Views
Are you reading mine? - 13/10/2012 07:09:02 PM 1210 Views
Apoplexy, that is what is happening on my side of the screen - 11/10/2012 08:31:30 PM 1083 Views
the fact that Egwene is proven incorrect on this any number of times? - 12/10/2012 04:14:35 AM 1311 Views
THANK YOU!!! - 11/10/2012 08:26:49 PM 1251 Views
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to the point on the Circle - 06/10/2012 09:36:18 PM 1313 Views
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I had forgotten about Brendas! - 07/10/2012 05:15:52 AM 1263 Views
I've been thinking about this - 07/10/2012 10:11:22 PM 1211 Views
Circles give added precision, remember? - 07/10/2012 11:27:05 PM 1248 Views
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Circles of larger numbers give added benefit... - 08/10/2012 02:00:58 AM 1311 Views
Egwene with a sa'angreal might be like 15x her natural strength, so maybe 9-10x Rand - 08/10/2012 02:59:26 AM 1212 Views
Highly doubtful... - 08/10/2012 01:36:47 PM 1247 Views
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Re: Meh, I don't really care all that much, I just don't think this adds up to the text. - 08/10/2012 05:57:04 PM 1264 Views
That is actually the crux of my issue - 08/10/2012 07:52:52 PM 1230 Views
That's why its called exponential. It is NOT linear and that why the gains look ridiculous - 11/10/2012 10:00:15 PM 1277 Views
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the text is not inconsistent. - 19/10/2012 08:20:52 PM 1729 Views
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Suian was stilled for hiding these boys. obviously trust was the issue. not healing skill. *NM* - 11/10/2012 10:11:50 PM 560 Views
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There is so much evidence against this - 04/10/2012 08:04:45 PM 1346 Views
Androl does not match Rands Gateway size. - 05/10/2012 05:59:34 PM 1368 Views
Rand states straight out that gateway size is not OP strength dependent. - 05/10/2012 08:51:58 PM 1208 Views
+500 ... Well said sir! *NM* - 06/10/2012 04:52:38 AM 869 Views
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there is no waffle here. plenty of syrup though.... - 18/10/2012 06:53:34 PM 1326 Views
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- 07/10/2012 11:35:00 PM 1103 Views
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- 06/10/2012 03:15:25 PM 1257 Views
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I disagree - 08/10/2012 08:08:04 PM 1234 Views
I sort of agree with Sidious there - 09/10/2012 03:03:54 PM 1242 Views
Re: Yes, Healing Talent is incredibly rare and only implies out of proportion ability... - 09/10/2012 02:37:10 PM 1423 Views
That has no relevance here - 09/10/2012 06:29:34 PM 1164 Views
Beonin's Gateway v. Egwene's v. Rand's v. Aviendha and Elayne Edit: made a math mistake - 06/10/2012 08:34:56 PM 1712 Views
This debate is restricted by the "largest Gateway possible" issue. And some added points to consider - 07/10/2012 04:09:33 AM 1194 Views
Re: This debate is restricted by the "largest Gateway possible" issue. - 07/10/2012 07:46:51 PM 1366 Views
I noticed that... - 07/10/2012 11:38:18 PM 1359 Views
Re: This debate is restricted by the "largest Gateway possible" issue. - 08/10/2012 05:47:57 PM 1216 Views
Re: This debate is restricted by the "largest Gateway possible" issue. - 09/10/2012 05:08:34 PM 1501 Views
On Healing and Yellows... - 09/10/2012 05:24:11 PM 1265 Views
Re: On Healing and Yellows... - 09/10/2012 06:07:20 PM 1418 Views
True - 07/10/2012 10:01:42 PM 1289 Views
Life skills and OP skills... - 02/10/2012 06:40:00 AM 1165 Views
Or the reverse could be true - 02/10/2012 08:43:37 AM 1327 Views
Re: Or the reverse could be true - 02/10/2012 09:12:28 AM 1370 Views
And Egwene was training to be Wisdom ... I don't know that any of this is true 100% of the time - 02/10/2012 04:55:30 PM 1293 Views
Re: And Egwene was training to be Wisdom ... I don't know that any of this is true 100% of the time - 03/10/2012 12:55:01 AM 1422 Views
The point is the same regardless - 03/10/2012 05:14:36 AM 1315 Views
Here's an answer to your original question - 06/10/2012 07:21:27 AM 1369 Views
*takes a bow* ... thanks for finding that quote! *NM* - 06/10/2012 08:41:49 PM 668 Views
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You misunderstand the nature of the Yellow - 02/10/2012 05:06:20 PM 1332 Views
I know - 02/10/2012 07:27:14 PM 1350 Views
Our stance seems to be Nature v. nurture in nature - 02/10/2012 11:21:50 PM 1308 Views
Re: Gateways, Tel'aran'rhiod and Dreamspikes... - 02/10/2012 06:38:11 AM 1320 Views
Trollocs have dreams - 05/10/2012 06:39:49 PM 1400 Views
XKCD is on the case! - 03/10/2012 06:05:54 AM 1267 Views
Re: Problems with gateways - 04/10/2012 03:10:48 PM 1149 Views

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