The Borderlands are probably the most militaristic culture of RandLand. I don't find their retaining more of the old language unusual. Military societies by nature are slow to change due to their regimented mindset. Additionally, they seem to revel in their millitary ways; you could even say they flaunt them. They are the Samuari of RandLand.
But their society was developed after the widespread adherence to the vulgar tongue, so they would be retaining a post-Old Tongue culture. Militaries are also formed in large part by the poorer, less educated people, and are a source of numerous neologisms and expressions rather than conforming to those favoured by the intellectual elite.
TarValon is a quite different animal entirely. There is a very strong line between the city and the Tower. The citezens are happy for the protection and wealth that the tower brings but they are no more eager than any other land to attract the attention of Sisters. Women won't wear shawls because the do not want to be accused of pretending to ba a Sister. Why in the world would folks wander around occasionally dropping smatterings of the old toungue? TarValen culture can be summed up by the phrase, "We are Aes Sedai, and you are not."
I would expect the people of Tar Valon to use more Old Tongue expressions only because they are more likely to hear them.
The first rule of being a ninja is "do no harm". Unless you intend to do harm, then do lots of harm.
~Master Splinter
Victorious in Bergioyn's legendary 'Reverse Mafia'. *MySmiley*
~Master Splinter
Victorious in Bergioyn's legendary 'Reverse Mafia'. *MySmiley*
Author Adam Roberts tackled the WoT.
- 19/03/2010 09:30:25 PM
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Heh, While I agree with him about it being derivative, I still encourage people to read it.
- 20/03/2010 02:36:47 AM
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My problem with the reviews:
- 20/03/2010 06:29:08 AM
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Hear Hear !!!
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- 20/03/2010 06:37:11 AM
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- 20/03/2010 06:37:11 AM
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well I agree and disagree
- 20/03/2010 06:51:29 AM
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Re: well I agree and disagree
- 20/03/2010 02:12:43 PM
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I'm amused by some of the responses
- 20/03/2010 07:20:03 PM
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Are you suggesting that we are unqualified to disagree with him ?
- 20/03/2010 11:21:44 PM
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No, I said rather that it's ridiculous to make such disparaging comments about his takes
- 20/03/2010 11:37:56 PM
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I will reply to myself: What's the problem McFly , chicken ?
- 21/03/2010 12:29:36 AM
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My sister called me chicken once
- 10/04/2010 01:18:31 AM
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Re: I'm amused by some of the responses
- 23/03/2010 04:50:42 PM
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And I'm even more amused by this response
- 24/03/2010 01:11:50 AM
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- 24/03/2010 01:11:50 AM
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On a completely unrelated note...
- 24/03/2010 06:15:25 AM
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Ha!
- 24/03/2010 06:34:48 AM
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- 24/03/2010 06:34:48 AM
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My congratulations then
. *NM*
- 24/03/2010 06:36:11 AM
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. *NM*
- 24/03/2010 06:36:11 AM
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Wow, you guys have completely missed the point of the Wheel of Time series
- 22/03/2010 05:28:07 PM
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- 22/03/2010 05:28:07 PM
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There's a point to it?
- 22/03/2010 06:47:12 PM
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- 22/03/2010 06:47:12 PM
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Yes, RJ has explained it at least a few times and the main sequence of each book invokes his message *NM*
- 24/03/2010 02:09:01 AM
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You're not taking me seriously now, are you?
- 24/03/2010 02:54:37 AM
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- 24/03/2010 02:54:37 AM
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I meant the reason why RJ wrote WoT in the first place
- 24/03/2010 06:39:47 AM
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And which, arguably, could be viewed as being done in a hackneyed way
- 24/03/2010 07:15:55 AM
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I thought the point was to write about a bunch of stuff happening?
- 09/04/2010 03:42:49 PM
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pfft wth-ever
- 26/03/2010 12:35:53 AM
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Dude's been up for more awards for his writing than RJ ever was
- 26/03/2010 12:28:19 PM
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bla bla bla
- 29/03/2010 06:17:07 AM
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Wow. That post was more entertaining than Mr. Roberts' review. Thank you
*NM*
- 29/03/2010 08:23:41 AM
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*NM*
- 29/03/2010 08:23:41 AM
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You must have low standards for entertainment
- 29/03/2010 08:54:03 AM
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Re: You must have low standards for entertainment
- 29/03/2010 09:13:44 AM
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I know you were, thus the
at the least of my comment
- 29/03/2010 09:19:30 AM
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at the least of my comment
- 29/03/2010 09:19:30 AM
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Unimpressed
- 29/03/2010 10:50:07 PM
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Isn't that a bit uncharitable, Dom, considering how much you approved of what I did with CoT?
- 30/03/2010 12:03:48 AM
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Re: Dude's been up for more awards for his writing than RJ ever was
- 29/03/2010 04:32:23 PM
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Might want to re-read their Wikis again.
- 29/03/2010 07:07:11 PM
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Awards
- 29/03/2010 07:42:03 PM
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That link is out of date
- 29/03/2010 07:54:56 PM
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Re: That link is out of date
- 29/03/2010 08:22:03 PM
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This is a battle of win/lose?
- 29/03/2010 08:47:54 PM
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Re: This is a battle of win/lose?
- 29/03/2010 09:03:07 PM
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*considers employing the Chewbacca defense*
- 29/03/2010 09:28:06 PM
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Re: *considers employing the Chewbacca defense*
- 29/03/2010 09:44:58 PM
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The final point explains the "defense"
- 30/03/2010 12:24:56 AM
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Re: The final point explains the "defense"
- 30/03/2010 01:33:04 PM
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No, no, no
- 30/03/2010 06:38:41 PM
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Re: No, no, no
- 30/03/2010 07:51:34 PM
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Still continuing, huh?
- 31/03/2010 02:10:13 AM
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Re: Still continuing, huh?
- 31/03/2010 03:56:57 PM
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He's now reviewed the third book
- 26/03/2010 12:27:16 PM
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Well, this time I must disagree with him
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- 29/03/2010 07:31:40 AM
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.
- 29/03/2010 07:31:40 AM
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I don't think he was claiming that RJ was alone in doing that
- 29/03/2010 07:44:07 AM
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Hah!
- 29/03/2010 06:07:28 PM
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Well...
- 29/03/2010 06:52:10 PM
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Differing perspectives, I guess.
- 29/03/2010 07:58:13 PM
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I suppose
- 29/03/2010 08:50:43 PM
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Re: I suppose
- 30/03/2010 12:18:30 AM
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Hey, DomA, do you know why the Shienarans randomly speak in the Old Tongue?
- 30/03/2010 12:52:01 AM
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Re: Hey, DomA, do you know why the Shienarans randomly speak in the Old Tongue?
- 30/03/2010 07:45:08 AM
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But why only them?
- 30/03/2010 08:07:00 AM
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Re: But why only them?
- 30/03/2010 03:56:54 PM
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Re: But why only them?
- 30/03/2010 08:29:37 PM
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The Shadow Rising review
- 02/04/2010 09:42:53 AM
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I wonder if this borders on trolling
- 02/04/2010 02:29:58 PM
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That would be a mistake
- 02/04/2010 09:16:25 PM
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Re: That would be a mistake
- 02/04/2010 10:28:56 PM
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I agree, Roberts is more and more coming across to me as just bitter
- 10/04/2010 01:24:52 AM
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Little late to this one as well
- 10/04/2010 11:12:04 AM
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Perhaps you should have led with this bit
- 10/04/2010 02:52:23 PM
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I guess I just presumed that people would read the header to his blog
- 12/04/2010 03:54:10 AM
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- 12/04/2010 03:54:10 AM
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What review? I couldn't find one...
- 02/04/2010 08:00:45 PM
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Re: What review? I couldn't find one...
- 02/04/2010 09:22:13 PM
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See my comment below
- 02/04/2010 09:32:54 PM
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Re: See my comment below
- 03/04/2010 09:31:22 AM
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Sorry I'm late in responding, but I've been quite busy this week
- 07/04/2010 09:45:48 PM
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Speaking of irritation
- 02/04/2010 10:50:04 PM
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To be fair, even among the RaFOers there have been tons of posts that missed certain events
- 09/04/2010 03:47:30 PM
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Commentary, then?
- 02/04/2010 09:27:18 PM
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- 02/04/2010 09:27:18 PM
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Here's the thing...
- 02/04/2010 10:11:18 PM
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Re: Here's the thing...
- 02/04/2010 10:31:56 PM
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Re: Commentary, then?
- 05/04/2010 03:44:07 PM
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- 05/04/2010 03:44:07 PM
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for a man that bitterly complains about an author who is padding his work
- 08/04/2010 09:41:07 PM
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1400 words is long-winded?
- 09/04/2010 10:07:41 AM
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- 09/04/2010 10:07:41 AM
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since you can sum up those 1400 words in about 25 yes that's longwinded
- 09/04/2010 01:36:16 PM
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Except I didn't really sum it up, as I left out quite a bit
- 10/04/2010 11:15:42 AM
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You are very defensive over this
- 10/04/2010 01:54:15 PM
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Nah, more of a devil's advocate than anything else
- 12/04/2010 03:57:12 AM
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Well Larry I have started reading Gradsil by Adam Roberts
- 07/04/2010 08:59:28 PM
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I demand a paragraph by paragraph review, with footnotes!
- 07/04/2010 09:50:39 PM
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Re: I demand a paragraph by paragraph review, with footnotes!
- 08/04/2010 01:06:20 PM
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Which Invisible Man?
- 09/04/2010 09:58:44 AM
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He brings up some interesting points, if in an unnecessarily rude manner
- 08/04/2010 12:42:25 PM
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To be honest, I doubt most readers of the series obsess over it that much
- 09/04/2010 10:05:49 AM
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- 09/04/2010 10:05:49 AM
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Re: To be honest, I doubt most readers of the series obsess over it that much
- 09/04/2010 01:28:17 PM
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- 09/04/2010 01:28:17 PM
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Re: To be honest, I doubt most readers of the series obsess over it that much
- 10/04/2010 11:40:22 AM
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- 10/04/2010 11:40:22 AM
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why are you so bothered by people being unimpressed with Roberts?
- 10/04/2010 02:19:08 PM
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Not bothered as much as I am bemused by the ad hominems, to be honest
- 12/04/2010 04:11:12 AM
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And in vol. 5, Roberts discovers the horrors of the circus
- 09/04/2010 09:57:03 AM
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Basically he just states the "nothing happens"-argument...
- 09/04/2010 03:26:02 PM
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Well, what was really resolved here?
- 10/04/2010 11:25:25 AM
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Well...
- 12/04/2010 05:05:20 PM
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So very little was resolved and much was set into motion, then?
- 12/04/2010 06:55:45 PM
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Yes...
- 12/04/2010 10:51:08 PM
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Ever read Umberto Eco's How To Travel with a Salmon?
- 12/04/2010 11:07:19 PM
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I guess...
- 13/04/2010 10:03:03 AM
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Sounds like you value prolixity for the sake of prolixity, to be honest
- 13/04/2010 04:41:07 PM
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Nah...
- 13/04/2010 05:29:34 PM
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He's read and enjoyed Proust, among others
- 13/04/2010 07:37:39 PM
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Ah, well...
- 13/04/2010 09:45:45 PM
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Dismissive, much?
- 13/04/2010 10:52:30 PM
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- 13/04/2010 10:52:30 PM
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About that bifurcation...
- 14/04/2010 02:02:15 AM
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Sorry that I was busy yesterday and didn't have a chance to reply until now
- 15/04/2010 01:46:54 PM
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I'm sorry, but he's totally right. "The Circus" made me put down this series for 5 YEARS.
- 09/04/2010 03:38:16 PM
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Lord of Chaos commentary
- 16/04/2010 03:39:39 PM
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No no. It was Lord of Heaven!
- 16/04/2010 05:51:11 PM
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Yeah, I noticed that
- 16/04/2010 11:16:26 PM
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- 16/04/2010 11:16:26 PM
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I would love the see him review Goodkind...
- 16/04/2010 11:51:07 PM
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I don't wish that on anyone who doesn't have copious amounts of alcohol
- 16/04/2010 11:57:41 PM
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A Crown of Swords - or is it deco-porn?
- 23/04/2010 08:36:17 AM
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Re: A Crown of Swords - or is it deco-porn?
- 29/04/2010 06:02:28 PM
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I disagree
- 29/04/2010 09:34:49 PM
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The Path of Daggers commentary
- 07/05/2010 10:39:03 AM
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Winter's Heart
- 21/05/2010 12:46:14 PM
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I think WH was my least favorite of the WoT novels I re-read
- 21/05/2010 04:49:31 PM
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Re: I think WH was my least favorite of the WoT novels I re-read
- 25/05/2010 05:05:09 PM
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WH was my least favorite novel in the series, and that is saying a lot.
- 28/05/2010 03:15:13 PM
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I completely agree with his KoD post. Here is my favorite quote:
- 28/05/2010 03:08:31 PM
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Roberts reflects back on WoT 1-11, with answers to questions asked of him
- 25/06/2010 12:51:29 PM
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This guy should be burned at the stake
- 25/06/2010 03:22:34 PM
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Are you done making a fool out of yourself, Mark?
- 26/06/2010 06:53:37 PM
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Oh come on...
- 26/06/2010 09:06:01 PM
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Well, the burning at the stake was a bit much...
- 26/06/2010 10:19:40 PM
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Well, really! You brought the comment to his notice...
- 26/06/2010 11:34:08 PM
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And your point is...?
- 27/06/2010 12:37:00 AM
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Well...
- 27/06/2010 05:38:12 AM
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Indeed... I think it's rather clear that Larry's goal has been to cause trouble
- 27/06/2010 10:57:36 AM
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It's not about honour being beschmirched. It's about poor quality arguments. *NM*
- 30/03/2011 04:09:23 PM
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One year later...
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Re: One year later...
- 28/03/2011 05:03:32 PM
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I see you subconsciously support critical takes.
- 28/03/2011 11:41:48 PM
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No I conciously support telling you and him that you are pathetic, arrogent, & jelous. *NM*
- 30/03/2011 01:40:36 PM
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Jealous?
- 30/03/2011 05:20:32 PM
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You both are jelous of Jordan's tremendous succes.
- 30/03/2011 10:27:36 PM
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Please learn how to spell the word "jealous" before tossing it about in the cavalier fashion you do
- 30/03/2011 10:54:36 PM
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The fact that you teach is supposed to be a surprise?
- 31/03/2011 01:23:45 PM
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After reading the standard-issue checklist of generic, tossabout pejoratives...
- 01/04/2011 03:06:18 PM
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I agree, I didn't even notice it was an old post, definitely did not deserve to be revived. *NM*
- 30/03/2011 02:41:12 PM
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Now I notice as well that this is a year old. You're very silly, Larry, very silly. *NM*
- 30/03/2011 04:13:38 PM
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Yep!
- 30/03/2011 05:16:38 PM
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- 30/03/2011 05:16:38 PM
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He's not an "author", he's just a stupid troll, do not feed him *NM*
- 30/03/2011 02:39:19 PM
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