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I don't think he was claiming that RJ was alone in doing that Larry Send a noteboard - 29/03/2010 07:44:07 AM
The way that he references 'general myth/culture' makes it sound as though RJ only used parallels to the most common and overused sources, which I do think is unfair.

Or perhaps I think that there was more extensive use because of my own ignorance on the subject, I imagine. But whatever the case, I do not share this perspective.

Not that it really matters. The first time I read the series I got to Crossroads of Twilight and wasn't even aware that Ishamael had appeared in the story yet :P.


Rather, I think his point was that it was done in such a heavy-handed fashion at times that it didn't mesh too well with the narrative style of the first few volumes. At least, that's my take on the matter.

My first WoT book was CoS. Think about how that colored the subsequent reads of 1-6 :P
Illusions fall like the husk of a fruit, one after another, and the fruit is experience. - Narrator, Sylvie

Je suis méchant.
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Author Adam Roberts tackled the WoT. - 19/03/2010 09:30:25 PM 9853 Views
A question for Larry - 19/03/2010 09:40:37 PM 2044 Views
Roberto Bolaño - 19/03/2010 11:09:57 PM 1812 Views
I completely agree with his review. - 19/03/2010 11:11:17 PM 1978 Views
Ouch! Somebody pull that guy off RJ! *NM* - 20/03/2010 03:47:07 AM 875 Views
Can't say that I really disagree. - 20/03/2010 05:19:26 AM 1361 Views
My problem with the reviews: - 20/03/2010 06:29:08 AM 1909 Views
Hear Hear !!! ....................... = ........................ *NM* - 20/03/2010 06:37:11 AM 852 Views
I agree - 20/03/2010 11:19:29 AM 1431 Views
You know what else I'm finding annoying? - 07/04/2010 07:29:37 AM 1374 Views
Fully Agree *NM* - 21/06/2010 12:41:05 AM 741 Views
well I agree and disagree - 20/03/2010 06:51:29 AM 1723 Views
Re: well I agree and disagree - 20/03/2010 02:12:43 PM 1268 Views
I'd say just The Eye of the World - 20/03/2010 05:26:19 PM 1260 Views
Indeed - 21/03/2010 12:34:19 AM 1275 Views
These reviews are pathetic - 20/03/2010 12:52:22 PM 1263 Views
I'm amused by some of the responses - 20/03/2010 07:20:03 PM 1615 Views
+1 *NM* - 20/03/2010 10:48:14 PM 836 Views
Are you suggesting that we are unqualified to disagree with him ? - 20/03/2010 11:21:44 PM 1433 Views
No, I said rather that it's ridiculous to make such disparaging comments about his takes - 20/03/2010 11:37:56 PM 1469 Views
I considered doing so - 21/03/2010 12:27:27 AM 1253 Views
I will reply to myself: What's the problem McFly , chicken ? - 21/03/2010 12:29:36 AM 1208 Views
My sister called me chicken once - 10/04/2010 01:18:31 AM 1254 Views
what's wrong runt... are you yellah? *NM* - 10/04/2010 10:40:16 AM 836 Views
NICE! *NM* - 10/04/2010 02:19:44 PM 691 Views
Re: I'm amused by some of the responses - 23/03/2010 04:50:42 PM 1350 Views
And I'm even more amused by this response - 24/03/2010 01:11:50 AM 1274 Views
Re: And I'm even more amused by this response - 24/03/2010 03:03:28 AM 1158 Views
Nah, TGS was the only serious review of the series I've done - 24/03/2010 04:31:28 AM 1196 Views
On a completely unrelated note... - 24/03/2010 06:15:25 AM 1063 Views
Ha! - 24/03/2010 06:34:48 AM 1217 Views
My congratulations then . *NM* - 24/03/2010 06:36:11 AM 1107 Views
You say it as if I had been condemned to hell! - 24/03/2010 07:13:45 AM 1033 Views
No. Well, maybe. - 24/03/2010 06:52:28 PM 1118 Views
! - 24/03/2010 06:54:34 PM 1174 Views
Re: Author Adam Roberts tackled the WoT. - 22/03/2010 02:47:23 PM 1228 Views
Re: Author Adam Roberts tackled the WoT. - 23/03/2010 01:53:16 PM 1239 Views
Wow, you guys have completely missed the point of the Wheel of Time series - 22/03/2010 05:28:07 PM 1290 Views
There's a point to it? - 22/03/2010 06:47:12 PM 1285 Views
I thought the point was to write about a bunch of stuff happening? - 09/04/2010 03:42:49 PM 1276 Views
Re: Author Adam Roberts tackled the WoT. - 23/03/2010 04:54:38 PM 1207 Views
pfft wth-ever - 26/03/2010 12:35:53 AM 1078 Views
Dude's been up for more awards for his writing than RJ ever was - 26/03/2010 12:28:19 PM 1317 Views
bla bla bla - 29/03/2010 06:17:07 AM 1185 Views
Usually, it's spelled "blah" - 29/03/2010 07:03:51 AM 1209 Views
Wow. That post was more entertaining than Mr. Roberts' review. Thank you *NM* - 29/03/2010 08:23:41 AM 1038 Views
You must have low standards for entertainment - 29/03/2010 08:54:03 AM 1171 Views
Re: You must have low standards for entertainment - 29/03/2010 09:13:44 AM 1283 Views
I know you were, thus the at the least of my comment - 29/03/2010 09:19:30 AM 1170 Views
Unimpressed - 29/03/2010 10:50:07 PM 1526 Views
Thank you - 30/03/2010 12:35:39 AM 1108 Views
*Standing ovation for DomA* - 30/03/2010 07:36:59 AM 1303 Views
Yes. Also, Roberts is a wanker. *NM* - 05/04/2010 09:28:57 PM 856 Views
Re: Dude's been up for more awards for his writing than RJ ever was - 29/03/2010 04:32:23 PM 1275 Views
Might want to re-read their Wikis again. - 29/03/2010 07:07:11 PM 1170 Views
Awards - 29/03/2010 07:42:03 PM 1150 Views
That link is out of date - 29/03/2010 07:54:56 PM 1121 Views
Re: That link is out of date - 29/03/2010 08:22:03 PM 1252 Views
This is a battle of win/lose? - 29/03/2010 08:47:54 PM 1176 Views
Re: This is a battle of win/lose? - 29/03/2010 09:03:07 PM 1234 Views
*considers employing the Chewbacca defense* - 29/03/2010 09:28:06 PM 1206 Views
Re: *considers employing the Chewbacca defense* - 29/03/2010 09:44:58 PM 1239 Views
The final point explains the "defense" - 30/03/2010 12:24:56 AM 1090 Views
Re: The final point explains the "defense" - 30/03/2010 01:33:04 PM 1085 Views
No, no, no - 30/03/2010 06:38:41 PM 1156 Views
Re: No, no, no - 30/03/2010 07:51:34 PM 1205 Views
Still continuing, huh? - 31/03/2010 02:10:13 AM 1205 Views
Re: Still continuing, huh? - 31/03/2010 03:56:57 PM 1127 Views
Those were polls - 31/03/2010 08:46:07 PM 1146 Views
Re: Those were polls - 05/04/2010 03:22:13 PM 1087 Views
Does it gives him right to insult me? - 13/04/2011 02:10:32 PM 1096 Views
I wouldn't know. Was he speaking directly to you? - 14/04/2011 11:28:16 PM 1261 Views
He's now reviewed the third book - 26/03/2010 12:27:16 PM 1318 Views
Well, this time I must disagree with him . - 29/03/2010 07:31:40 AM 1151 Views
I don't think he was claiming that RJ was alone in doing that - 29/03/2010 07:44:07 AM 1113 Views
Hah! - 29/03/2010 06:07:28 PM 1115 Views
Well... - 29/03/2010 06:52:10 PM 1103 Views
Differing perspectives, I guess. - 29/03/2010 07:58:13 PM 1179 Views
I suppose - 29/03/2010 08:50:43 PM 1116 Views
Re: I suppose - 30/03/2010 12:18:30 AM 1275 Views
True - 30/03/2010 12:23:28 AM 1111 Views
Hey, DomA, do you know why the Shienarans randomly speak in the Old Tongue? - 30/03/2010 12:52:01 AM 1023 Views
Re: Hey, DomA, do you know why the Shienarans randomly speak in the Old Tongue? - 30/03/2010 07:45:08 AM 1156 Views
But why only them? - 30/03/2010 08:07:00 AM 1189 Views
Re: But why only them? - 30/03/2010 03:56:54 PM 1133 Views
Re: But why only them? - 30/03/2010 08:29:37 PM 1219 Views
I really liked a lot of the minor characters in The Great Hunt. - 30/03/2010 12:49:03 AM 1198 Views
I barely thought twice about those, to be honest - 30/03/2010 06:39:55 PM 1175 Views
I can't wait what he's going to try to do with TFoH and beyond - 28/03/2010 08:18:59 PM 1212 Views
Glad you enjoyed it - 29/03/2010 09:33:43 PM 1054 Views
The Shadow Rising review - 02/04/2010 09:42:53 AM 1302 Views
I wonder if this borders on trolling - 02/04/2010 02:29:58 PM 9920 Views
You want complaining? You got it... - 02/04/2010 06:38:09 PM 1207 Views
That would be a mistake - 02/04/2010 09:16:25 PM 1382 Views
Re: That would be a mistake - 02/04/2010 10:28:56 PM 1097 Views
I agree, Roberts is more and more coming across to me as just bitter - 10/04/2010 01:24:52 AM 1239 Views
Little late to this one as well - 10/04/2010 11:12:04 AM 1283 Views
Perhaps you should have led with this bit - 10/04/2010 02:52:23 PM 1337 Views
Re: I wonder if this borders on trolling - 04/04/2010 09:16:22 AM 1184 Views
What review? I couldn't find one... - 02/04/2010 08:00:45 PM 1377 Views
Re: What review? I couldn't find one... - 02/04/2010 09:22:13 PM 1344 Views
See my comment below - 02/04/2010 09:32:54 PM 1339 Views
Re: See my comment below - 03/04/2010 09:31:22 AM 1760 Views
Sorry I'm late in responding, but I've been quite busy this week - 07/04/2010 09:45:48 PM 1562 Views
Yes, I can probably agree with what you say here. - 08/04/2010 12:29:16 AM 1066 Views
- 08/04/2010 12:32:53 AM 1156 Views
I agree completely. *NM* - 02/04/2010 09:53:44 PM 740 Views
Speaking of irritation - 02/04/2010 10:50:04 PM 1322 Views
Commentary, then? - 02/04/2010 09:27:18 PM 1159 Views
Here's the thing... - 02/04/2010 10:11:18 PM 1159 Views
Re: Here's the thing... - 02/04/2010 10:31:56 PM 1036 Views
Re: Here's the thing... - 03/04/2010 01:34:05 AM 1075 Views
I somehow overlooked this last week, it seems - 10/04/2010 11:01:17 AM 1357 Views
Indeed - 02/04/2010 10:34:00 PM 1026 Views
Re: Commentary, then? - 05/04/2010 03:44:07 PM 1121 Views
for a man that bitterly complains about an author who is padding his work - 08/04/2010 09:41:07 PM 1273 Views
1400 words is long-winded? - 09/04/2010 10:07:41 AM 1326 Views
since you can sum up those 1400 words in about 25 yes that's longwinded - 09/04/2010 01:36:16 PM 1189 Views
Except I didn't really sum it up, as I left out quite a bit - 10/04/2010 11:15:42 AM 1258 Views
You are very defensive over this - 10/04/2010 01:54:15 PM 1030 Views
Nah, more of a devil's advocate than anything else - 12/04/2010 03:57:12 AM 1105 Views
Re: Nah, more of a devil's advocate than anything else - 12/04/2010 05:30:53 PM 1039 Views
You sound like a Goodkind webmaster from a couple of years ago - 12/04/2010 06:58:42 PM 1123 Views
You don't come across as a devil's advocate - 30/03/2011 03:07:32 PM 1064 Views
Well Larry I have started reading Gradsil by Adam Roberts - 07/04/2010 08:59:28 PM 1218 Views
I demand a paragraph by paragraph review, with footnotes! - 07/04/2010 09:50:39 PM 1155 Views
Re: I demand a paragraph by paragraph review, with footnotes! - 08/04/2010 01:06:20 PM 1031 Views
Which Invisible Man? - 09/04/2010 09:58:44 AM 1227 Views
Re: Which Invisible Man? - 09/04/2010 01:26:42 PM 1135 Views
I have a very different take on that book - 10/04/2010 11:17:13 AM 1106 Views
Re: I demand a paragraph by paragraph review, with footnotes! - 09/04/2010 01:45:44 PM 1181 Views
Hrmm... - 10/04/2010 11:19:01 AM 990 Views
Re: Well Larry I have started reading Gradsil by Adam Roberts - 12/04/2010 05:37:36 PM 1205 Views
He brings up some interesting points, if in an unnecessarily rude manner - 08/04/2010 12:42:25 PM 1160 Views
To be honest, I doubt most readers of the series obsess over it that much - 09/04/2010 10:05:49 AM 1190 Views
Re: To be honest, I doubt most readers of the series obsess over it that much - 09/04/2010 01:28:17 PM 1706 Views
Re: To be honest, I doubt most readers of the series obsess over it that much - 10/04/2010 11:40:22 AM 1099 Views
why are you so bothered by people being unimpressed with Roberts? - 10/04/2010 02:19:08 PM 1224 Views
I don't understand it either - 11/04/2010 12:44:25 PM 1188 Views
right? - 11/04/2010 02:13:00 PM 1197 Views
Nah - 12/04/2010 04:13:44 AM 990 Views
And in vol. 5, Roberts discovers the horrors of the circus - 09/04/2010 09:57:03 AM 1118 Views
5 reviews without saying more than "I hate the series" - 09/04/2010 01:31:13 PM 1051 Views
Basically he just states the "nothing happens"-argument... - 09/04/2010 03:26:02 PM 1035 Views
Well, what was really resolved here? - 10/04/2010 11:25:25 AM 1052 Views
Well... - 12/04/2010 05:05:20 PM 1248 Views
well exactly - 12/04/2010 05:33:11 PM 1270 Views
So very little was resolved and much was set into motion, then? - 12/04/2010 06:55:45 PM 1213 Views
Yes... - 12/04/2010 10:51:08 PM 1004 Views
Ever read Umberto Eco's How To Travel with a Salmon? - 12/04/2010 11:07:19 PM 1213 Views
I guess... - 13/04/2010 10:03:03 AM 1264 Views
Sounds like you value prolixity for the sake of prolixity, to be honest - 13/04/2010 04:41:07 PM 2419 Views
Nah... - 13/04/2010 05:29:34 PM 1021 Views
He's read and enjoyed Proust, among others - 13/04/2010 07:37:39 PM 1061 Views
Ah, well... - 13/04/2010 09:45:45 PM 1037 Views
Dismissive, much? - 13/04/2010 10:52:30 PM 1187 Views
About that bifurcation... - 14/04/2010 02:02:15 AM 1154 Views
I'm rather moderate - 14/04/2010 10:11:30 AM 1066 Views
I'm just a liberation theologist at heart - 15/04/2010 01:51:16 PM 1989 Views
So, if you don't mind... - 13/04/2010 05:51:06 AM 1142 Views
That's fine with me - 13/04/2010 06:31:41 AM 1110 Views
I'm sorry, but he's totally right. "The Circus" made me put down this series for 5 YEARS. - 09/04/2010 03:38:16 PM 1125 Views
I didn't find it quite that bad, but... - 11/04/2010 08:27:52 AM 1035 Views
LoC represented a sharp drop in quality!!? - 19/05/2010 03:27:21 PM 1148 Views
And ignores everything else... - 09/04/2010 05:10:00 PM 1210 Views
Inchoatus went offline a couple of years ago - 10/04/2010 11:42:26 AM 2109 Views
This guy is going to get what he deserves... - 09/04/2010 10:26:14 PM 1115 Views
I'm waiting with bated breath for his CoT review *NM* - 10/04/2010 01:00:59 PM 830 Views
Just wanted to point out that he is not reviewing the series. - 16/04/2010 04:04:49 PM 1140 Views
Lord of Chaos commentary - 16/04/2010 03:39:39 PM 1143 Views
He has reached - The Hump. - 16/04/2010 03:55:51 PM 1107 Views
Re: He has reached - The Hump. - 18/04/2010 08:08:59 AM 1306 Views
No no. It was Lord of Heaven! - 16/04/2010 05:51:11 PM 1061 Views
Yeah, I noticed that - 16/04/2010 11:16:26 PM 983 Views
I would love the see him review Goodkind... - 16/04/2010 11:51:07 PM 1154 Views
Finally re-read that post - 20/04/2010 09:35:45 PM 1096 Views
The magic items are mostly irrelevant... - 21/04/2010 03:37:36 AM 1114 Views
A Crown of Swords - or is it deco-porn? - 23/04/2010 08:36:17 AM 1212 Views
Re: A Crown of Swords - or is it deco-porn? - 29/04/2010 06:02:28 PM 1109 Views
I disagree - 29/04/2010 09:34:49 PM 986 Views
I agree. - 29/04/2010 09:45:29 PM 1170 Views
Took me a moment to realize with whom you were agreeing - 29/04/2010 10:19:05 PM 1078 Views
Well, I did mention the necklines get overdone... - 06/05/2010 06:17:46 PM 1415 Views
Well, there's now also the tea to comment about - 07/05/2010 11:29:03 AM 1164 Views
A bit of a stumble this week - 30/04/2010 01:53:31 PM 1211 Views
The Path of Daggers commentary - 07/05/2010 10:39:03 AM 1193 Views
You'd think a Brit would like the tea... *NM* - 11/05/2010 04:05:42 PM 723 Views
Maybe he's just a contrarian? - 11/05/2010 07:55:43 PM 1048 Views
Winter's Heart - 21/05/2010 12:46:14 PM 1200 Views
To be fair - 21/05/2010 01:56:49 PM 1297 Views
I think WH was my least favorite of the WoT novels I re-read - 21/05/2010 04:49:31 PM 1103 Views
Re: I think WH was my least favorite of the WoT novels I re-read - 25/05/2010 05:05:09 PM 1285 Views
WH was my least favorite novel in the series, and that is saying a lot. - 28/05/2010 03:15:13 PM 1197 Views
I completely agree with his KoD post. Here is my favorite quote: - 28/05/2010 03:08:31 PM 1370 Views
CoT, you mean (link to actual post included) - 28/05/2010 04:56:10 PM 1214 Views
Yep, I meant COT. *NM* - 28/05/2010 07:02:48 PM 702 Views
Knife of Dreams - 18/06/2010 09:07:27 AM 1120 Views
Re: Knife of Dreams - 19/06/2010 05:49:38 AM 1194 Views
Agree... - 19/06/2010 05:08:44 PM 1179 Views
Roberts reflects back on WoT 1-11, with answers to questions asked of him - 25/06/2010 12:51:29 PM 1192 Views
This guy should be burned at the stake - 25/06/2010 03:22:34 PM 8579 Views
Are you done making a fool out of yourself, Mark? - 26/06/2010 06:53:37 PM 1155 Views
Oh come on... - 26/06/2010 09:06:01 PM 1279 Views
Well, the burning at the stake was a bit much... - 26/06/2010 10:19:40 PM 1264 Views
Well, really! You brought the comment to his notice... - 26/06/2010 11:34:08 PM 1220 Views
And your point is...? - 27/06/2010 12:37:00 AM 1298 Views
Well... - 27/06/2010 05:38:12 AM 1243 Views
Indeed... I think it's rather clear that Larry's goal has been to cause trouble - 27/06/2010 10:57:36 AM 1380 Views
There is no "borderline" about it. - 28/03/2011 05:17:15 PM 1126 Views
Ridiculous - 27/06/2010 06:38:46 AM 1152 Views
I like his FAQ and his overall musings on its' popularity. - 29/06/2010 06:35:10 PM 1220 Views
One year later... - 27/03/2011 03:40:29 AM 1134 Views
Re: One year later... - 28/03/2011 05:03:32 PM 1069 Views
I see you subconsciously support critical takes. - 28/03/2011 11:41:48 PM 1362 Views
No I conciously support telling you and him that you are pathetic, arrogent, & jelous. *NM* - 30/03/2011 01:40:36 PM 787 Views
Jealous? - 30/03/2011 05:20:32 PM 1119 Views
I agree, I didn't even notice it was an old post, definitely did not deserve to be revived. *NM* - 30/03/2011 02:41:12 PM 692 Views
Seconded. - 30/03/2011 04:04:36 PM 1019 Views
Now I notice as well that this is a year old. You're very silly, Larry, very silly. *NM* - 30/03/2011 04:13:38 PM 734 Views
Yep! - 30/03/2011 05:16:38 PM 1050 Views
Jeez Larry, you're starting to sound like a GRRM detractor. - 31/03/2011 03:01:38 PM 1153 Views
Nah, no detractor - 01/04/2011 03:00:41 PM 1275 Views
Could a thread be locked? - 31/03/2011 07:48:26 PM 1037 Views
Re: One year later... - 01/04/2011 02:55:02 AM 1302 Views
Yep - 01/04/2011 02:57:52 PM 1213 Views

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