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Nah, more of a devil's advocate than anything else Larry Send a noteboard - 12/04/2010 03:57:12 AM

So should any respect be shown to you for showing no respect for the opinions of one who holds different takes than you? Of course, I'm coming at this from someone who's read several reviews of his over the past few years. Some I agreed with, others I had completely different takes. But I've never felt the antipathy that you seem to show to the person writing the review. Hate the review all you want, but what personal harm have you taken from the fact that Roberts did not like one of your favorite series?

I have no respect for a man who is clearly too lazy to do more than make a series of sarcastic posts and call them reviews. He is entitled to his opinion, but I don't take him seriously because he is not doing the work to make this a true review.


What, pray tell, makes for a "true" review? Very curious about this, for professional reasons.

I have issues with the utter lack of doing the work involved with a good review. I'm dismissive of his opinion because he's not putting anything behind it that others haven't said in the past, he's just being nasty and bashing on the series, he's not funny and quite honestly he comes across to me as immature ... so I'm unimpressed on multiple levels.


Well, it's an informal commentary on what he's reading, he's not obligated to say nice things about the books he reads, he's reading it for the first time and probably doesn't feel compelled to read the august opinions of such as you :P

If he was writing a piece that had anything constructive in it or even thought provoking I'd be interested. As it is he just comes across like a raging douchebag.


And your responses over at his blog are the epitome of manners and well-cultured decorum? ;)
Illusions fall like the husk of a fruit, one after another, and the fruit is experience. - Narrator, Sylvie

Je suis méchant.
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Author Adam Roberts tackled the WoT. - 19/03/2010 09:30:25 PM 13511 Views
A question for Larry - 19/03/2010 09:40:37 PM 3479 Views
Roberto Bolaño - 19/03/2010 11:09:57 PM 3444 Views
I completely agree with his review. - 19/03/2010 11:11:17 PM 3440 Views
Ouch! Somebody pull that guy off RJ! *NM* - 20/03/2010 03:47:07 AM 1708 Views
Can't say that I really disagree. - 20/03/2010 05:19:26 AM 2744 Views
My problem with the reviews: - 20/03/2010 06:29:08 AM 3452 Views
Hear Hear !!! ....................... = ........................ *NM* - 20/03/2010 06:37:11 AM 1641 Views
I agree - 20/03/2010 11:19:29 AM 2873 Views
You know what else I'm finding annoying? - 07/04/2010 07:29:37 AM 2756 Views
Fully Agree *NM* - 21/06/2010 12:41:05 AM 1502 Views
well I agree and disagree - 20/03/2010 06:51:29 AM 3102 Views
Re: well I agree and disagree - 20/03/2010 02:12:43 PM 2666 Views
I'd say just The Eye of the World - 20/03/2010 05:26:19 PM 2790 Views
Indeed - 21/03/2010 12:34:19 AM 2629 Views
These reviews are pathetic - 20/03/2010 12:52:22 PM 2648 Views
I'm amused by some of the responses - 20/03/2010 07:20:03 PM 3086 Views
+1 *NM* - 20/03/2010 10:48:14 PM 1837 Views
Are you suggesting that we are unqualified to disagree with him ? - 20/03/2010 11:21:44 PM 2781 Views
No, I said rather that it's ridiculous to make such disparaging comments about his takes - 20/03/2010 11:37:56 PM 2830 Views
I considered doing so - 21/03/2010 12:27:27 AM 2652 Views
I will reply to myself: What's the problem McFly , chicken ? - 21/03/2010 12:29:36 AM 2645 Views
My sister called me chicken once - 10/04/2010 01:18:31 AM 2719 Views
what's wrong runt... are you yellah? *NM* - 10/04/2010 10:40:16 AM 1575 Views
NICE! *NM* - 10/04/2010 02:19:44 PM 1432 Views
Re: I'm amused by some of the responses - 23/03/2010 04:50:42 PM 2724 Views
And I'm even more amused by this response - 24/03/2010 01:11:50 AM 2655 Views
Re: And I'm even more amused by this response - 24/03/2010 03:03:28 AM 2535 Views
Nah, TGS was the only serious review of the series I've done - 24/03/2010 04:31:28 AM 2605 Views
On a completely unrelated note... - 24/03/2010 06:15:25 AM 2586 Views
Ha! - 24/03/2010 06:34:48 AM 2559 Views
My congratulations then . *NM* - 24/03/2010 06:36:11 AM 2477 Views
You say it as if I had been condemned to hell! - 24/03/2010 07:13:45 AM 2415 Views
No. Well, maybe. - 24/03/2010 06:52:28 PM 2573 Views
! - 24/03/2010 06:54:34 PM 2588 Views
Re: Author Adam Roberts tackled the WoT. - 22/03/2010 02:47:23 PM 2739 Views
Re: Author Adam Roberts tackled the WoT. - 23/03/2010 01:53:16 PM 2652 Views
Wow, you guys have completely missed the point of the Wheel of Time series - 22/03/2010 05:28:07 PM 2693 Views
There's a point to it? - 22/03/2010 06:47:12 PM 2674 Views
Yes, RJ has explained it at least a few times and the main sequence of each book invokes his message *NM* - 24/03/2010 02:09:01 AM 1583 Views
You're not taking me seriously now, are you? - 24/03/2010 02:54:37 AM 2603 Views
I meant the reason why RJ wrote WoT in the first place - 24/03/2010 06:39:47 AM 2595 Views
I thought the point was to write about a bunch of stuff happening? - 09/04/2010 03:42:49 PM 2669 Views
Re: Author Adam Roberts tackled the WoT. - 23/03/2010 04:54:38 PM 2649 Views
pfft wth-ever - 26/03/2010 12:35:53 AM 2471 Views
Dude's been up for more awards for his writing than RJ ever was - 26/03/2010 12:28:19 PM 2728 Views
bla bla bla - 29/03/2010 06:17:07 AM 2631 Views
Usually, it's spelled "blah" - 29/03/2010 07:03:51 AM 2571 Views
Wow. That post was more entertaining than Mr. Roberts' review. Thank you *NM* - 29/03/2010 08:23:41 AM 1758 Views
You must have low standards for entertainment - 29/03/2010 08:54:03 AM 2584 Views
Re: You must have low standards for entertainment - 29/03/2010 09:13:44 AM 2670 Views
I know you were, thus the at the least of my comment - 29/03/2010 09:19:30 AM 2493 Views
Unimpressed - 29/03/2010 10:50:07 PM 2974 Views
Thank you - 30/03/2010 12:35:39 AM 2417 Views
*Standing ovation for DomA* - 30/03/2010 07:36:59 AM 2693 Views
Yes. Also, Roberts is a wanker. *NM* - 05/04/2010 09:28:57 PM 1584 Views
Re: Dude's been up for more awards for his writing than RJ ever was - 29/03/2010 04:32:23 PM 2698 Views
Might want to re-read their Wikis again. - 29/03/2010 07:07:11 PM 2519 Views
Awards - 29/03/2010 07:42:03 PM 2478 Views
That link is out of date - 29/03/2010 07:54:56 PM 2462 Views
Re: That link is out of date - 29/03/2010 08:22:03 PM 2634 Views
This is a battle of win/lose? - 29/03/2010 08:47:54 PM 2489 Views
Re: This is a battle of win/lose? - 29/03/2010 09:03:07 PM 2534 Views
*considers employing the Chewbacca defense* - 29/03/2010 09:28:06 PM 2542 Views
Re: *considers employing the Chewbacca defense* - 29/03/2010 09:44:58 PM 2722 Views
The final point explains the "defense" - 30/03/2010 12:24:56 AM 2474 Views
Re: The final point explains the "defense" - 30/03/2010 01:33:04 PM 2389 Views
No, no, no - 30/03/2010 06:38:41 PM 2465 Views
Re: No, no, no - 30/03/2010 07:51:34 PM 2561 Views
Still continuing, huh? - 31/03/2010 02:10:13 AM 2512 Views
Re: Still continuing, huh? - 31/03/2010 03:56:57 PM 2489 Views
Those were polls - 31/03/2010 08:46:07 PM 2496 Views
Re: Those were polls - 05/04/2010 03:22:13 PM 2420 Views
Does it gives him right to insult me? - 13/04/2011 02:10:32 PM 2491 Views
I wouldn't know. Was he speaking directly to you? - 14/04/2011 11:28:16 PM 2604 Views
He's now reviewed the third book - 26/03/2010 12:27:16 PM 2725 Views
Well, this time I must disagree with him . - 29/03/2010 07:31:40 AM 2429 Views
I don't think he was claiming that RJ was alone in doing that - 29/03/2010 07:44:07 AM 2446 Views
Hah! - 29/03/2010 06:07:28 PM 2445 Views
Well... - 29/03/2010 06:52:10 PM 2368 Views
Differing perspectives, I guess. - 29/03/2010 07:58:13 PM 2548 Views
I suppose - 29/03/2010 08:50:43 PM 2462 Views
Re: I suppose - 30/03/2010 12:18:30 AM 2622 Views
True - 30/03/2010 12:23:28 AM 2459 Views
Hey, DomA, do you know why the Shienarans randomly speak in the Old Tongue? - 30/03/2010 12:52:01 AM 2448 Views
Re: Hey, DomA, do you know why the Shienarans randomly speak in the Old Tongue? - 30/03/2010 07:45:08 AM 2638 Views
But why only them? - 30/03/2010 08:07:00 AM 2538 Views
Re: But why only them? - 30/03/2010 03:56:54 PM 2512 Views
Re: But why only them? - 30/03/2010 08:29:37 PM 2606 Views
I really liked a lot of the minor characters in The Great Hunt. - 30/03/2010 12:49:03 AM 2474 Views
I barely thought twice about those, to be honest - 30/03/2010 06:39:55 PM 2518 Views
I can't wait what he's going to try to do with TFoH and beyond - 28/03/2010 08:18:59 PM 2589 Views
Glad you enjoyed it - 29/03/2010 09:33:43 PM 2444 Views
The Shadow Rising review - 02/04/2010 09:42:53 AM 2733 Views
I wonder if this borders on trolling - 02/04/2010 02:29:58 PM 11262 Views
You want complaining? You got it... - 02/04/2010 06:38:09 PM 2587 Views
That would be a mistake - 02/04/2010 09:16:25 PM 2738 Views
Re: That would be a mistake - 02/04/2010 10:28:56 PM 2485 Views
I agree, Roberts is more and more coming across to me as just bitter - 10/04/2010 01:24:52 AM 2589 Views
Little late to this one as well - 10/04/2010 11:12:04 AM 2621 Views
Perhaps you should have led with this bit - 10/04/2010 02:52:23 PM 2708 Views
Re: I wonder if this borders on trolling - 04/04/2010 09:16:22 AM 2586 Views
What review? I couldn't find one... - 02/04/2010 08:00:45 PM 2695 Views
Re: What review? I couldn't find one... - 02/04/2010 09:22:13 PM 2692 Views
See my comment below - 02/04/2010 09:32:54 PM 2753 Views
Re: See my comment below - 03/04/2010 09:31:22 AM 3095 Views
Sorry I'm late in responding, but I've been quite busy this week - 07/04/2010 09:45:48 PM 2938 Views
Yes, I can probably agree with what you say here. - 08/04/2010 12:29:16 AM 2401 Views
- 08/04/2010 12:32:53 AM 2546 Views
I agree completely. *NM* - 02/04/2010 09:53:44 PM 1469 Views
Speaking of irritation - 02/04/2010 10:50:04 PM 2649 Views
Commentary, then? - 02/04/2010 09:27:18 PM 2527 Views
Here's the thing... - 02/04/2010 10:11:18 PM 2479 Views
Re: Here's the thing... - 02/04/2010 10:31:56 PM 2335 Views
Re: Here's the thing... - 03/04/2010 01:34:05 AM 2379 Views
I somehow overlooked this last week, it seems - 10/04/2010 11:01:17 AM 2707 Views
Indeed - 02/04/2010 10:34:00 PM 2374 Views
Re: Commentary, then? - 05/04/2010 03:44:07 PM 2432 Views
for a man that bitterly complains about an author who is padding his work - 08/04/2010 09:41:07 PM 2660 Views
1400 words is long-winded? - 09/04/2010 10:07:41 AM 2708 Views
since you can sum up those 1400 words in about 25 yes that's longwinded - 09/04/2010 01:36:16 PM 2571 Views
Except I didn't really sum it up, as I left out quite a bit - 10/04/2010 11:15:42 AM 2606 Views
You are very defensive over this - 10/04/2010 01:54:15 PM 2393 Views
Nah, more of a devil's advocate than anything else - 12/04/2010 03:57:12 AM 2462 Views
Re: Nah, more of a devil's advocate than anything else - 12/04/2010 05:30:53 PM 2389 Views
You sound like a Goodkind webmaster from a couple of years ago - 12/04/2010 06:58:42 PM 2469 Views
You don't come across as a devil's advocate - 30/03/2011 03:07:32 PM 2513 Views
Well Larry I have started reading Gradsil by Adam Roberts - 07/04/2010 08:59:28 PM 2629 Views
I demand a paragraph by paragraph review, with footnotes! - 07/04/2010 09:50:39 PM 2519 Views
Re: I demand a paragraph by paragraph review, with footnotes! - 08/04/2010 01:06:20 PM 2385 Views
Which Invisible Man? - 09/04/2010 09:58:44 AM 2581 Views
Re: Which Invisible Man? - 09/04/2010 01:26:42 PM 2611 Views
I have a very different take on that book - 10/04/2010 11:17:13 AM 2461 Views
Re: I demand a paragraph by paragraph review, with footnotes! - 09/04/2010 01:45:44 PM 2516 Views
Hrmm... - 10/04/2010 11:19:01 AM 2330 Views
Re: Well Larry I have started reading Gradsil by Adam Roberts - 12/04/2010 05:37:36 PM 2581 Views
He brings up some interesting points, if in an unnecessarily rude manner - 08/04/2010 12:42:25 PM 2511 Views
To be honest, I doubt most readers of the series obsess over it that much - 09/04/2010 10:05:49 AM 2534 Views
Re: To be honest, I doubt most readers of the series obsess over it that much - 09/04/2010 01:28:17 PM 3064 Views
Re: To be honest, I doubt most readers of the series obsess over it that much - 10/04/2010 11:40:22 AM 2544 Views
why are you so bothered by people being unimpressed with Roberts? - 10/04/2010 02:19:08 PM 2535 Views
I don't understand it either - 11/04/2010 12:44:25 PM 2505 Views
right? - 11/04/2010 02:13:00 PM 2542 Views
Nah - 12/04/2010 04:13:44 AM 2359 Views
And in vol. 5, Roberts discovers the horrors of the circus - 09/04/2010 09:57:03 AM 2516 Views
5 reviews without saying more than "I hate the series" - 09/04/2010 01:31:13 PM 2393 Views
Basically he just states the "nothing happens"-argument... - 09/04/2010 03:26:02 PM 2415 Views
Well, what was really resolved here? - 10/04/2010 11:25:25 AM 2495 Views
Well... - 12/04/2010 05:05:20 PM 2604 Views
well exactly - 12/04/2010 05:33:11 PM 2612 Views
So very little was resolved and much was set into motion, then? - 12/04/2010 06:55:45 PM 2573 Views
Yes... - 12/04/2010 10:51:08 PM 2305 Views
Ever read Umberto Eco's How To Travel with a Salmon? - 12/04/2010 11:07:19 PM 2666 Views
I guess... - 13/04/2010 10:03:03 AM 2645 Views
Sounds like you value prolixity for the sake of prolixity, to be honest - 13/04/2010 04:41:07 PM 3766 Views
Nah... - 13/04/2010 05:29:34 PM 2315 Views
He's read and enjoyed Proust, among others - 13/04/2010 07:37:39 PM 2455 Views
Ah, well... - 13/04/2010 09:45:45 PM 2363 Views
Dismissive, much? - 13/04/2010 10:52:30 PM 2556 Views
About that bifurcation... - 14/04/2010 02:02:15 AM 2521 Views
I'm rather moderate - 14/04/2010 10:11:30 AM 2451 Views
I'm just a liberation theologist at heart - 15/04/2010 01:51:16 PM 3316 Views
So, if you don't mind... - 13/04/2010 05:51:06 AM 2548 Views
That's fine with me - 13/04/2010 06:31:41 AM 2504 Views
I'm sorry, but he's totally right. "The Circus" made me put down this series for 5 YEARS. - 09/04/2010 03:38:16 PM 2516 Views
I didn't find it quite that bad, but... - 11/04/2010 08:27:52 AM 2516 Views
LoC represented a sharp drop in quality!!? - 19/05/2010 03:27:21 PM 2507 Views
And ignores everything else... - 09/04/2010 05:10:00 PM 2617 Views
Inchoatus went offline a couple of years ago - 10/04/2010 11:42:26 AM 3452 Views
This guy is going to get what he deserves... - 09/04/2010 10:26:14 PM 2489 Views
I'm waiting with bated breath for his CoT review *NM* - 10/04/2010 01:00:59 PM 1554 Views
Just wanted to point out that he is not reviewing the series. - 16/04/2010 04:04:49 PM 2413 Views
Lord of Chaos commentary - 16/04/2010 03:39:39 PM 2500 Views
He has reached - The Hump. - 16/04/2010 03:55:51 PM 2433 Views
Re: He has reached - The Hump. - 18/04/2010 08:08:59 AM 2879 Views
No no. It was Lord of Heaven! - 16/04/2010 05:51:11 PM 2387 Views
Yeah, I noticed that - 16/04/2010 11:16:26 PM 2319 Views
I would love the see him review Goodkind... - 16/04/2010 11:51:07 PM 2534 Views
Finally re-read that post - 20/04/2010 09:35:45 PM 2517 Views
The magic items are mostly irrelevant... - 21/04/2010 03:37:36 AM 2473 Views
A Crown of Swords - or is it deco-porn? - 23/04/2010 08:36:17 AM 2571 Views
Re: A Crown of Swords - or is it deco-porn? - 29/04/2010 06:02:28 PM 2508 Views
I disagree - 29/04/2010 09:34:49 PM 2328 Views
I agree. - 29/04/2010 09:45:29 PM 2532 Views
Took me a moment to realize with whom you were agreeing - 29/04/2010 10:19:05 PM 2476 Views
Well, I did mention the necklines get overdone... - 06/05/2010 06:17:46 PM 2792 Views
Well, there's now also the tea to comment about - 07/05/2010 11:29:03 AM 2575 Views
A bit of a stumble this week - 30/04/2010 01:53:31 PM 2579 Views
The Path of Daggers commentary - 07/05/2010 10:39:03 AM 2653 Views
You'd think a Brit would like the tea... *NM* - 11/05/2010 04:05:42 PM 1419 Views
Maybe he's just a contrarian? - 11/05/2010 07:55:43 PM 2395 Views
Winter's Heart - 21/05/2010 12:46:14 PM 2649 Views
To be fair - 21/05/2010 01:56:49 PM 2746 Views
I think WH was my least favorite of the WoT novels I re-read - 21/05/2010 04:49:31 PM 2494 Views
Re: I think WH was my least favorite of the WoT novels I re-read - 25/05/2010 05:05:09 PM 2638 Views
WH was my least favorite novel in the series, and that is saying a lot. - 28/05/2010 03:15:13 PM 2467 Views
I completely agree with his KoD post. Here is my favorite quote: - 28/05/2010 03:08:31 PM 2808 Views
CoT, you mean (link to actual post included) - 28/05/2010 04:56:10 PM 2633 Views
Yep, I meant COT. *NM* - 28/05/2010 07:02:48 PM 1405 Views
Knife of Dreams - 18/06/2010 09:07:27 AM 2527 Views
Re: Knife of Dreams - 19/06/2010 05:49:38 AM 2604 Views
Agree... - 19/06/2010 05:08:44 PM 2531 Views
Roberts reflects back on WoT 1-11, with answers to questions asked of him - 25/06/2010 12:51:29 PM 2622 Views
This guy should be burned at the stake - 25/06/2010 03:22:34 PM 10113 Views
Are you done making a fool out of yourself, Mark? - 26/06/2010 06:53:37 PM 2545 Views
Oh come on... - 26/06/2010 09:06:01 PM 2604 Views
Well, the burning at the stake was a bit much... - 26/06/2010 10:19:40 PM 2614 Views
Well, really! You brought the comment to his notice... - 26/06/2010 11:34:08 PM 2620 Views
And your point is...? - 27/06/2010 12:37:00 AM 2631 Views
Well... - 27/06/2010 05:38:12 AM 2565 Views
Indeed... I think it's rather clear that Larry's goal has been to cause trouble - 27/06/2010 10:57:36 AM 2749 Views
There is no "borderline" about it. - 28/03/2011 05:17:15 PM 2428 Views
Ridiculous - 27/06/2010 06:38:46 AM 2479 Views
I like his FAQ and his overall musings on its' popularity. - 29/06/2010 06:35:10 PM 2490 Views
One year later... - 27/03/2011 03:40:29 AM 2439 Views
Re: One year later... - 28/03/2011 05:03:32 PM 2697 Views
I see you subconsciously support critical takes. - 28/03/2011 11:41:48 PM 2666 Views
No I conciously support telling you and him that you are pathetic, arrogent, & jelous. *NM* - 30/03/2011 01:40:36 PM 1486 Views
Jealous? - 30/03/2011 05:20:32 PM 2468 Views
I agree, I didn't even notice it was an old post, definitely did not deserve to be revived. *NM* - 30/03/2011 02:41:12 PM 1395 Views
Seconded. - 30/03/2011 04:04:36 PM 2403 Views
Now I notice as well that this is a year old. You're very silly, Larry, very silly. *NM* - 30/03/2011 04:13:38 PM 1518 Views
Yep! - 30/03/2011 05:16:38 PM 2379 Views
Jeez Larry, you're starting to sound like a GRRM detractor. - 31/03/2011 03:01:38 PM 2571 Views
Nah, no detractor - 01/04/2011 03:00:41 PM 2582 Views
Could a thread be locked? - 31/03/2011 07:48:26 PM 2461 Views
Re: One year later... - 01/04/2011 02:55:02 AM 2863 Views
Yep - 01/04/2011 02:57:52 PM 2598 Views
He's not an "author", he's just a stupid troll, do not feed him *NM* - 30/03/2011 02:39:19 PM 1405 Views

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