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Still continuing, huh? Larry Send a noteboard - 31/03/2010 02:10:13 AM
There are none so blind as those who will not see.


Pot? Hey!

I already gave you the link to the site. Contrary to AR's ego there is not a site dedicated to only his work. It has alot of other authors, including suprisingly enough Robert Jordan.


Oh, that. You mean a bunch of reader polls, I see. None in the past nine years as well. Wonderful. Didn't know that affected Roberts' ego, though. Projecting a bit?

This is my definition of accomplishment (from Webster):

1 : the act of accomplishing : completion

2 : something that has been accomplished : achievement

3 a : a quality or ability equipping one for society b : a special skill or ability acquired by training or practice

What is yours?


Well, if someone sets out to get a Ph.D. and does does so, that's an accomplishment. Same thing for having a book or multiple books and short fiction publication. I would imagine being well-regarded by many (not all, but by many) would be another accomplishment. Oh, and being up for awards where there are actual banquets and presentations and occasional media coverage would be another accomplishment.

And perhaps publishing works that aren't geared toward the perceived LCD might be an accomplishment as well?

Perhaps we are having difficulty comind to terms with "successful." There I believe we are going to have a serious gap because you seem to be implying that because AR was nominated (and only nominated) for a couple of awards then he is something special that grants him a free pass on doing a "review" that is nothing of the sort (His review is equivelent to a kindergartner on the playground in Georgia making fun of the way a New Yorker talks). Well my dad was nominated for an Emmy once, he didn't win. As the saying goes, that and $1 will get him a cup of coffee. Perhaps it is because he is a professor at *gasp* CAMBRIDGE that makes him so special. OK, lets examine his life shall we? He went to high school, he went to college, he went to college, he went to college, he teaches at college. He wrote a few books (that may or may not be readable, I have seen comments both ways but I will judge for myself the next time I go to the Library) but had meidccre market appeal. Hmmm, still waiting for something in there to reach out and grab me... RJ on the other hand, now that man lead a life... AR seems to aspire to being an author, RJ was a master storyteller.


You sure do read a lot into matters, don't you? I would merely reply that having established himself as a critic (again, have you read his non-fiction? Thought not.), I would be more apt to consider his point of view than I would consider, for example, yours. The rest of your semi-diatribe above seems to be a bit odd, to say the least. Are you trying to work up animosity ad hominem because the author/critic has a different experience reading the novels than you have had and that he expresses it in a more informal-than-norm-for-him review on his personal blog? Seems a bit strange, to be honest.

Oh, and as for the support you think you have in this thread for you view, I sugest you go back and actually look at the posts, I did. (ignoring you and I)There have been 7 different contributors that thought the "review" was nothing but snarky superficial crap, 3 who were ambivelent or partially agreed, and 3 that voiced agreement; though 1 of those had a change of opinion after the second "review"


I was pointing out that there was no unanimity of opinions. My point still stands.

I'm sorry to tell you, AR does not walk on water, if you look really closely I believe you will be able to see the snorkle.


I've read his works and reviews and disagree with elements of several of them. However, those differences of perspective offered me the chance to reevaluate my own takes. Did those change all or even most of the time? No, but it was a rewarding experience. This back and forth with someone who seems unwilling to admit that some of the issues that he raised might be valid ones to consider? Not so much.

Sorry that I'm slower in responding tonight, but I have a book to finish for a review on my blog, then I have to finish reading another lit journal for my editing job, then I have to send out a query letter. Might be slow in responding the next three days.
Illusions fall like the husk of a fruit, one after another, and the fruit is experience. - Narrator, Sylvie

Je suis méchant.
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Author Adam Roberts tackled the WoT. - 19/03/2010 09:30:25 PM 13777 Views
A question for Larry - 19/03/2010 09:40:37 PM 3619 Views
Roberto Bolaño - 19/03/2010 11:09:57 PM 3592 Views
I completely agree with his review. - 19/03/2010 11:11:17 PM 3616 Views
Ouch! Somebody pull that guy off RJ! *NM* - 20/03/2010 03:47:07 AM 1814 Views
Can't say that I really disagree. - 20/03/2010 05:19:26 AM 2919 Views
My problem with the reviews: - 20/03/2010 06:29:08 AM 3652 Views
Hear Hear !!! ....................... = ........................ *NM* - 20/03/2010 06:37:11 AM 1726 Views
I agree - 20/03/2010 11:19:29 AM 3014 Views
You know what else I'm finding annoying? - 07/04/2010 07:29:37 AM 2888 Views
Fully Agree *NM* - 21/06/2010 12:41:05 AM 1584 Views
well I agree and disagree - 20/03/2010 06:51:29 AM 3256 Views
Re: well I agree and disagree - 20/03/2010 02:12:43 PM 2795 Views
I'd say just The Eye of the World - 20/03/2010 05:26:19 PM 2935 Views
Indeed - 21/03/2010 12:34:19 AM 2800 Views
These reviews are pathetic - 20/03/2010 12:52:22 PM 2804 Views
I'm amused by some of the responses - 20/03/2010 07:20:03 PM 3277 Views
+1 *NM* - 20/03/2010 10:48:14 PM 1928 Views
Are you suggesting that we are unqualified to disagree with him ? - 20/03/2010 11:21:44 PM 2992 Views
No, I said rather that it's ridiculous to make such disparaging comments about his takes - 20/03/2010 11:37:56 PM 3000 Views
I considered doing so - 21/03/2010 12:27:27 AM 2796 Views
I will reply to myself: What's the problem McFly , chicken ? - 21/03/2010 12:29:36 AM 2852 Views
My sister called me chicken once - 10/04/2010 01:18:31 AM 2858 Views
what's wrong runt... are you yellah? *NM* - 10/04/2010 10:40:16 AM 1652 Views
NICE! *NM* - 10/04/2010 02:19:44 PM 1510 Views
Re: I'm amused by some of the responses - 23/03/2010 04:50:42 PM 2863 Views
And I'm even more amused by this response - 24/03/2010 01:11:50 AM 2815 Views
Re: And I'm even more amused by this response - 24/03/2010 03:03:28 AM 2700 Views
Nah, TGS was the only serious review of the series I've done - 24/03/2010 04:31:28 AM 2758 Views
On a completely unrelated note... - 24/03/2010 06:15:25 AM 2727 Views
Ha! - 24/03/2010 06:34:48 AM 2682 Views
My congratulations then . *NM* - 24/03/2010 06:36:11 AM 2621 Views
You say it as if I had been condemned to hell! - 24/03/2010 07:13:45 AM 2545 Views
No. Well, maybe. - 24/03/2010 06:52:28 PM 2702 Views
! - 24/03/2010 06:54:34 PM 2724 Views
Re: Author Adam Roberts tackled the WoT. - 22/03/2010 02:47:23 PM 2891 Views
Re: Author Adam Roberts tackled the WoT. - 23/03/2010 01:53:16 PM 2787 Views
Wow, you guys have completely missed the point of the Wheel of Time series - 22/03/2010 05:28:07 PM 2837 Views
There's a point to it? - 22/03/2010 06:47:12 PM 2813 Views
Yes, RJ has explained it at least a few times and the main sequence of each book invokes his message *NM* - 24/03/2010 02:09:01 AM 1666 Views
You're not taking me seriously now, are you? - 24/03/2010 02:54:37 AM 2742 Views
I meant the reason why RJ wrote WoT in the first place - 24/03/2010 06:39:47 AM 2749 Views
I thought the point was to write about a bunch of stuff happening? - 09/04/2010 03:42:49 PM 2848 Views
Re: Author Adam Roberts tackled the WoT. - 23/03/2010 04:54:38 PM 2785 Views
pfft wth-ever - 26/03/2010 12:35:53 AM 2621 Views
Dude's been up for more awards for his writing than RJ ever was - 26/03/2010 12:28:19 PM 2857 Views
bla bla bla - 29/03/2010 06:17:07 AM 2769 Views
Usually, it's spelled "blah" - 29/03/2010 07:03:51 AM 2710 Views
Wow. That post was more entertaining than Mr. Roberts' review. Thank you *NM* - 29/03/2010 08:23:41 AM 1837 Views
You must have low standards for entertainment - 29/03/2010 08:54:03 AM 2709 Views
Re: You must have low standards for entertainment - 29/03/2010 09:13:44 AM 2795 Views
I know you were, thus the at the least of my comment - 29/03/2010 09:19:30 AM 2635 Views
Unimpressed - 29/03/2010 10:50:07 PM 3133 Views
Thank you - 30/03/2010 12:35:39 AM 2553 Views
*Standing ovation for DomA* - 30/03/2010 07:36:59 AM 2830 Views
Yes. Also, Roberts is a wanker. *NM* - 05/04/2010 09:28:57 PM 1683 Views
Re: Dude's been up for more awards for his writing than RJ ever was - 29/03/2010 04:32:23 PM 2847 Views
Might want to re-read their Wikis again. - 29/03/2010 07:07:11 PM 2658 Views
Awards - 29/03/2010 07:42:03 PM 2632 Views
That link is out of date - 29/03/2010 07:54:56 PM 2602 Views
Re: That link is out of date - 29/03/2010 08:22:03 PM 2822 Views
This is a battle of win/lose? - 29/03/2010 08:47:54 PM 2660 Views
Re: This is a battle of win/lose? - 29/03/2010 09:03:07 PM 2666 Views
*considers employing the Chewbacca defense* - 29/03/2010 09:28:06 PM 2714 Views
Re: *considers employing the Chewbacca defense* - 29/03/2010 09:44:58 PM 2876 Views
The final point explains the "defense" - 30/03/2010 12:24:56 AM 2619 Views
Re: The final point explains the "defense" - 30/03/2010 01:33:04 PM 2547 Views
No, no, no - 30/03/2010 06:38:41 PM 2590 Views
Re: No, no, no - 30/03/2010 07:51:34 PM 2699 Views
Still continuing, huh? - 31/03/2010 02:10:13 AM 2663 Views
Re: Still continuing, huh? - 31/03/2010 03:56:57 PM 2669 Views
Those were polls - 31/03/2010 08:46:07 PM 2659 Views
Re: Those were polls - 05/04/2010 03:22:13 PM 2560 Views
Does it gives him right to insult me? - 13/04/2011 02:10:32 PM 2655 Views
I wouldn't know. Was he speaking directly to you? - 14/04/2011 11:28:16 PM 2743 Views
He's now reviewed the third book - 26/03/2010 12:27:16 PM 2873 Views
Well, this time I must disagree with him . - 29/03/2010 07:31:40 AM 2587 Views
I don't think he was claiming that RJ was alone in doing that - 29/03/2010 07:44:07 AM 2599 Views
Hah! - 29/03/2010 06:07:28 PM 2582 Views
Well... - 29/03/2010 06:52:10 PM 2512 Views
Differing perspectives, I guess. - 29/03/2010 07:58:13 PM 2683 Views
I suppose - 29/03/2010 08:50:43 PM 2595 Views
Re: I suppose - 30/03/2010 12:18:30 AM 2774 Views
True - 30/03/2010 12:23:28 AM 2604 Views
Hey, DomA, do you know why the Shienarans randomly speak in the Old Tongue? - 30/03/2010 12:52:01 AM 2602 Views
Re: Hey, DomA, do you know why the Shienarans randomly speak in the Old Tongue? - 30/03/2010 07:45:08 AM 2803 Views
But why only them? - 30/03/2010 08:07:00 AM 2671 Views
Re: But why only them? - 30/03/2010 03:56:54 PM 2689 Views
Re: But why only them? - 30/03/2010 08:29:37 PM 2777 Views
I really liked a lot of the minor characters in The Great Hunt. - 30/03/2010 12:49:03 AM 2610 Views
I barely thought twice about those, to be honest - 30/03/2010 06:39:55 PM 2665 Views
I can't wait what he's going to try to do with TFoH and beyond - 28/03/2010 08:18:59 PM 2731 Views
Glad you enjoyed it - 29/03/2010 09:33:43 PM 2575 Views
The Shadow Rising review - 02/04/2010 09:42:53 AM 2898 Views
I wonder if this borders on trolling - 02/04/2010 02:29:58 PM 11425 Views
You want complaining? You got it... - 02/04/2010 06:38:09 PM 2720 Views
That would be a mistake - 02/04/2010 09:16:25 PM 2886 Views
Re: That would be a mistake - 02/04/2010 10:28:56 PM 2630 Views
I agree, Roberts is more and more coming across to me as just bitter - 10/04/2010 01:24:52 AM 2729 Views
Little late to this one as well - 10/04/2010 11:12:04 AM 2789 Views
Perhaps you should have led with this bit - 10/04/2010 02:52:23 PM 2855 Views
Re: I wonder if this borders on trolling - 04/04/2010 09:16:22 AM 2731 Views
What review? I couldn't find one... - 02/04/2010 08:00:45 PM 2824 Views
Re: What review? I couldn't find one... - 02/04/2010 09:22:13 PM 2834 Views
See my comment below - 02/04/2010 09:32:54 PM 2902 Views
Re: See my comment below - 03/04/2010 09:31:22 AM 3247 Views
Sorry I'm late in responding, but I've been quite busy this week - 07/04/2010 09:45:48 PM 3090 Views
Yes, I can probably agree with what you say here. - 08/04/2010 12:29:16 AM 2540 Views
- 08/04/2010 12:32:53 AM 2668 Views
I agree completely. *NM* - 02/04/2010 09:53:44 PM 1555 Views
Speaking of irritation - 02/04/2010 10:50:04 PM 2794 Views
Commentary, then? - 02/04/2010 09:27:18 PM 2698 Views
Here's the thing... - 02/04/2010 10:11:18 PM 2622 Views
Re: Here's the thing... - 02/04/2010 10:31:56 PM 2491 Views
Re: Here's the thing... - 03/04/2010 01:34:05 AM 2513 Views
I somehow overlooked this last week, it seems - 10/04/2010 11:01:17 AM 2844 Views
Indeed - 02/04/2010 10:34:00 PM 2525 Views
Re: Commentary, then? - 05/04/2010 03:44:07 PM 2562 Views
for a man that bitterly complains about an author who is padding his work - 08/04/2010 09:41:07 PM 2797 Views
1400 words is long-winded? - 09/04/2010 10:07:41 AM 2856 Views
since you can sum up those 1400 words in about 25 yes that's longwinded - 09/04/2010 01:36:16 PM 2747 Views
Except I didn't really sum it up, as I left out quite a bit - 10/04/2010 11:15:42 AM 2757 Views
You are very defensive over this - 10/04/2010 01:54:15 PM 2551 Views
Nah, more of a devil's advocate than anything else - 12/04/2010 03:57:12 AM 2612 Views
Re: Nah, more of a devil's advocate than anything else - 12/04/2010 05:30:53 PM 2535 Views
You sound like a Goodkind webmaster from a couple of years ago - 12/04/2010 06:58:42 PM 2626 Views
You don't come across as a devil's advocate - 30/03/2011 03:07:32 PM 2647 Views
Well Larry I have started reading Gradsil by Adam Roberts - 07/04/2010 08:59:28 PM 2782 Views
I demand a paragraph by paragraph review, with footnotes! - 07/04/2010 09:50:39 PM 2657 Views
Re: I demand a paragraph by paragraph review, with footnotes! - 08/04/2010 01:06:20 PM 2569 Views
Which Invisible Man? - 09/04/2010 09:58:44 AM 2722 Views
Re: Which Invisible Man? - 09/04/2010 01:26:42 PM 2776 Views
I have a very different take on that book - 10/04/2010 11:17:13 AM 2600 Views
Re: I demand a paragraph by paragraph review, with footnotes! - 09/04/2010 01:45:44 PM 2667 Views
Hrmm... - 10/04/2010 11:19:01 AM 2492 Views
Re: Well Larry I have started reading Gradsil by Adam Roberts - 12/04/2010 05:37:36 PM 2723 Views
He brings up some interesting points, if in an unnecessarily rude manner - 08/04/2010 12:42:25 PM 2661 Views
To be honest, I doubt most readers of the series obsess over it that much - 09/04/2010 10:05:49 AM 2684 Views
Re: To be honest, I doubt most readers of the series obsess over it that much - 09/04/2010 01:28:17 PM 3210 Views
Re: To be honest, I doubt most readers of the series obsess over it that much - 10/04/2010 11:40:22 AM 2703 Views
why are you so bothered by people being unimpressed with Roberts? - 10/04/2010 02:19:08 PM 2697 Views
I don't understand it either - 11/04/2010 12:44:25 PM 2681 Views
right? - 11/04/2010 02:13:00 PM 2693 Views
Nah - 12/04/2010 04:13:44 AM 2524 Views
And in vol. 5, Roberts discovers the horrors of the circus - 09/04/2010 09:57:03 AM 2662 Views
5 reviews without saying more than "I hate the series" - 09/04/2010 01:31:13 PM 2530 Views
Basically he just states the "nothing happens"-argument... - 09/04/2010 03:26:02 PM 2566 Views
Well, what was really resolved here? - 10/04/2010 11:25:25 AM 2639 Views
Well... - 12/04/2010 05:05:20 PM 2751 Views
well exactly - 12/04/2010 05:33:11 PM 2742 Views
So very little was resolved and much was set into motion, then? - 12/04/2010 06:55:45 PM 2709 Views
Yes... - 12/04/2010 10:51:08 PM 2465 Views
Ever read Umberto Eco's How To Travel with a Salmon? - 12/04/2010 11:07:19 PM 2803 Views
I guess... - 13/04/2010 10:03:03 AM 2789 Views
Sounds like you value prolixity for the sake of prolixity, to be honest - 13/04/2010 04:41:07 PM 3916 Views
Nah... - 13/04/2010 05:29:34 PM 2460 Views
He's read and enjoyed Proust, among others - 13/04/2010 07:37:39 PM 2613 Views
Ah, well... - 13/04/2010 09:45:45 PM 2504 Views
Dismissive, much? - 13/04/2010 10:52:30 PM 2723 Views
About that bifurcation... - 14/04/2010 02:02:15 AM 2695 Views
I'm rather moderate - 14/04/2010 10:11:30 AM 2625 Views
I'm just a liberation theologist at heart - 15/04/2010 01:51:16 PM 3480 Views
So, if you don't mind... - 13/04/2010 05:51:06 AM 2693 Views
That's fine with me - 13/04/2010 06:31:41 AM 2647 Views
I'm sorry, but he's totally right. "The Circus" made me put down this series for 5 YEARS. - 09/04/2010 03:38:16 PM 2669 Views
I didn't find it quite that bad, but... - 11/04/2010 08:27:52 AM 2680 Views
LoC represented a sharp drop in quality!!? - 19/05/2010 03:27:21 PM 2629 Views
And ignores everything else... - 09/04/2010 05:10:00 PM 2762 Views
Inchoatus went offline a couple of years ago - 10/04/2010 11:42:26 AM 3604 Views
This guy is going to get what he deserves... - 09/04/2010 10:26:14 PM 2627 Views
I'm waiting with bated breath for his CoT review *NM* - 10/04/2010 01:00:59 PM 1650 Views
Just wanted to point out that he is not reviewing the series. - 16/04/2010 04:04:49 PM 2554 Views
Lord of Chaos commentary - 16/04/2010 03:39:39 PM 2633 Views
He has reached - The Hump. - 16/04/2010 03:55:51 PM 2588 Views
Re: He has reached - The Hump. - 18/04/2010 08:08:59 AM 3022 Views
No no. It was Lord of Heaven! - 16/04/2010 05:51:11 PM 2531 Views
Yeah, I noticed that - 16/04/2010 11:16:26 PM 2445 Views
I would love the see him review Goodkind... - 16/04/2010 11:51:07 PM 2662 Views
Finally re-read that post - 20/04/2010 09:35:45 PM 2664 Views
The magic items are mostly irrelevant... - 21/04/2010 03:37:36 AM 2630 Views
A Crown of Swords - or is it deco-porn? - 23/04/2010 08:36:17 AM 2729 Views
Re: A Crown of Swords - or is it deco-porn? - 29/04/2010 06:02:28 PM 2640 Views
I disagree - 29/04/2010 09:34:49 PM 2461 Views
I agree. - 29/04/2010 09:45:29 PM 2684 Views
Took me a moment to realize with whom you were agreeing - 29/04/2010 10:19:05 PM 2607 Views
Well, I did mention the necklines get overdone... - 06/05/2010 06:17:46 PM 2921 Views
Well, there's now also the tea to comment about - 07/05/2010 11:29:03 AM 2710 Views
A bit of a stumble this week - 30/04/2010 01:53:31 PM 2729 Views
The Path of Daggers commentary - 07/05/2010 10:39:03 AM 2783 Views
You'd think a Brit would like the tea... *NM* - 11/05/2010 04:05:42 PM 1494 Views
Maybe he's just a contrarian? - 11/05/2010 07:55:43 PM 2525 Views
Winter's Heart - 21/05/2010 12:46:14 PM 2805 Views
To be fair - 21/05/2010 01:56:49 PM 2890 Views
I think WH was my least favorite of the WoT novels I re-read - 21/05/2010 04:49:31 PM 2640 Views
Re: I think WH was my least favorite of the WoT novels I re-read - 25/05/2010 05:05:09 PM 2780 Views
WH was my least favorite novel in the series, and that is saying a lot. - 28/05/2010 03:15:13 PM 2626 Views
I completely agree with his KoD post. Here is my favorite quote: - 28/05/2010 03:08:31 PM 2963 Views
CoT, you mean (link to actual post included) - 28/05/2010 04:56:10 PM 2776 Views
Yep, I meant COT. *NM* - 28/05/2010 07:02:48 PM 1498 Views
Knife of Dreams - 18/06/2010 09:07:27 AM 2676 Views
Re: Knife of Dreams - 19/06/2010 05:49:38 AM 2758 Views
Agree... - 19/06/2010 05:08:44 PM 2659 Views
Roberts reflects back on WoT 1-11, with answers to questions asked of him - 25/06/2010 12:51:29 PM 2762 Views
This guy should be burned at the stake - 25/06/2010 03:22:34 PM 10250 Views
Are you done making a fool out of yourself, Mark? - 26/06/2010 06:53:37 PM 2699 Views
Oh come on... - 26/06/2010 09:06:01 PM 2730 Views
Well, the burning at the stake was a bit much... - 26/06/2010 10:19:40 PM 2748 Views
Well, really! You brought the comment to his notice... - 26/06/2010 11:34:08 PM 2765 Views
And your point is...? - 27/06/2010 12:37:00 AM 2773 Views
Well... - 27/06/2010 05:38:12 AM 2706 Views
Indeed... I think it's rather clear that Larry's goal has been to cause trouble - 27/06/2010 10:57:36 AM 2876 Views
There is no "borderline" about it. - 28/03/2011 05:17:15 PM 2552 Views
Ridiculous - 27/06/2010 06:38:46 AM 2601 Views
I like his FAQ and his overall musings on its' popularity. - 29/06/2010 06:35:10 PM 2630 Views
One year later... - 27/03/2011 03:40:29 AM 2563 Views
Re: One year later... - 28/03/2011 05:03:32 PM 2845 Views
I see you subconsciously support critical takes. - 28/03/2011 11:41:48 PM 2803 Views
No I conciously support telling you and him that you are pathetic, arrogent, & jelous. *NM* - 30/03/2011 01:40:36 PM 1575 Views
Jealous? - 30/03/2011 05:20:32 PM 2601 Views
I agree, I didn't even notice it was an old post, definitely did not deserve to be revived. *NM* - 30/03/2011 02:41:12 PM 1477 Views
Seconded. - 30/03/2011 04:04:36 PM 2538 Views
Now I notice as well that this is a year old. You're very silly, Larry, very silly. *NM* - 30/03/2011 04:13:38 PM 1604 Views
Yep! - 30/03/2011 05:16:38 PM 2512 Views
Jeez Larry, you're starting to sound like a GRRM detractor. - 31/03/2011 03:01:38 PM 2723 Views
Nah, no detractor - 01/04/2011 03:00:41 PM 2713 Views
Could a thread be locked? - 31/03/2011 07:48:26 PM 2613 Views
Re: One year later... - 01/04/2011 02:55:02 AM 3034 Views
Yep - 01/04/2011 02:57:52 PM 2733 Views
He's not an "author", he's just a stupid troll, do not feed him *NM* - 30/03/2011 02:39:19 PM 1504 Views

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