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I somehow overlooked this last week, it seems Larry Send a noteboard - 10/04/2010 11:01:17 AM

You could and I believe those familiar with epic fantasies would get the joke behind that comment as well :P

And if that is all I have in my review? It'd be a lump of turd.


Of course, I think he had more to it than that, but opinions vary, it seems :P


I don't think that's all there is to it, or else I wouldn't have posted it here (or at best, it would have been posted with a disclaimer noting that it was nothing but snark, to be taken lightly). The issues he raises about the nature of the sex/violent scenes, the way the prose is constructed, the plot branches, character development (or perceived lack thereof) are issues that are worthy of discussion. How well he explores those issues is the matter of contention, I suppose.

But he hasn't raised any issue about sex and violence. His complaints about the absence of sex have nothing to do with his complaint that the good guy Trolloc battles are boring, except that the first comes immediately after the next.


Well, it seems he's elaborated a little bit on these two points in his latest review. Whether or not that actually addresses what you raise is an entirely different matter ;)

If he had tried to analyze this aspect of the book, it would have been very obvious because he'd have to go from treating RJ like some mindless drone who writes the first thing that comes to his mind to one who has a motive when he writes something.


Or someone who seems to write his fetishes into the plot? :P

The prose issues are certainly there, but only insofar, I think, as saying that this isn't anything great. For the most part, the prose is inoffensive, barely noticeable at all. That might be a complaint he could make, how usually drab it is, how Jordan seems to rarely try and come up with something beautiful, despite the fact that his story presents many opportunities for moments of great prose. But that isn't something Robert's is talking about.


I disagree about the prose being "inoffensive." I have read all but the prequel (well, the novel form of it) and that's despite the prose, which is horrendous. xx(

He made a close brush to actually talking about the characters when he (legitimately) criticized the romance in the novels. But what of other stuff? I'd argue that while Jordan never wrote complicated, characters, he does succeed more than most fantasy authors in creating memorable characters who grow and change in a realistic manner. Who they are, and their original beliefs affect their actions as much as the events of the books change them. And tSR is a good place to notice that, because this is the first time our bunch of heroes has stopped merely reacting to their enemies but actually have their own plans. Which is why they successfully defy Moiraine, and we are shown that what seemed great wisdom and power was but a show. A mention of at least some of these aspects would have made me take him seriously. But he bothered with none of it.


I differ with you on this, as I don't believe there's a good character development pattern to this series. Oh, the author may attempt to show this, but from what I recall (and my memory is fairly good, but 10 years' span from the last time I read books 1-9 is going to weaken it), the dialogues and internal monologues were rather monotonous and repetitive and did not show much in the way of the characters actively changing. But that's me on that, although I suspect that's an opinion that several readers of the series may share; I wouldn't really know for sure, though.



Actually, I agree that a single overarching review would have worked better, but since he chose to review each of the 12 individually, I guess the main sticking points will be made over and over. But here's a question that just occurred to me - How much "growth" do we see in the series from a technical aspect? Is the structure of the prose and scenes relatively static, or do we see discernible shifts in how characters and situations are presented?

I'd say there is a big shift. The first three books may be passable adventure novels, but they never manage to give the impression that what the characters are doing matters much to the world. As the characters were busy facing sundry threats, we never saw them contemplating how what they did could change the world.


OK, I could see that, even if "changing the world" is a rather presumptuous thing outside of heroic fantasies, I guess :P

That begins to change with this book, and it is best seen in what I like to call "study" scenes, where characters are in a room for the whole scene, and all that is happening is that they're talking. But, events of the world are revealed to the reader (not as info-dumps) as their relevance to the actions of the characters are discussed as well.


I think that got muddled a bit, particularly in the latter books, as I seem to recall thinking that it seemed they were repeating the same type of conversations, just with different supporting characters and that nothing had really changed.

Part of this is because our characters are moving up in the world. They are no longer sleeping in the loft worried about the cold. But more importantly, the focus of the story itself has shifted. What began as a "lets survive the villains, use our swords and magic, find the next object of power and save the day story" has morphed into something different, something closer to the political stories a lot of present day fantasies are. By the time LoC came out in 1994, I should think that there was no other fantasy series that concerned itself so much with the currents of politics, communication and perspective.


If you mean multi-volume epic/heroic fantasies, perhaps. I seem to recall there being quite a few works from that era that touched upon several of those elements. Michael Moorcock I know worked politics into several of his stories from the 1960s onwards and Ursula Le Guin most certainly covered the latter two in her Earthsea novels of the 1970s.

Another way this impacted the scenes is the way non-PoV characters were presented in a scene. In the earlier books, they are usually talking pieces of furniture. As the weight and importance of all of the major characters increases, so too do the conversations and the interactions between them seem better rounded, having more weight.


Seems to me, again based on memory recall, that those others became more like more ponderous pieces of furniture there :P


Those are indeed aspects I wonder if Roberts has seen. Perhaps it'll appear in a later review? If it doesn't, then I'd agree with you that it was a major oversight on his part.

Let's see.


Maybe in a week or two? :P


I don't know if it's as much this book or it appears in the next two, though. But yes, this is an important issue. Question is, how well did Jordan execute this vision?

It appears in this book, specifically in connection to the Aiel he so easily dismisses as pointless. With other Prophesies, there is wiggle room, but with the Aiel, it is made clear to Rand that he is going to massively shake them up, and destroy more than he can save. He even begins in this book.


But what meaning will this have? I never really got the sense of a looming tragedy here, to be honest.

If there is one aspect of the series that I think RJ handled well, it is this. This knowledge changes Rand, but slowly, each thing building to the next, till we see the events in tGS. RJ doesn't sugar coat this aspect of the story at all, and this has the important effect of keeping the readers sympathetic to Rand even when he descends into serious ass-holery. It is an area where I find most authors failing. The obvious cases like Goodkind, but also people like GRRM (with Jon Snow). All too often, the hero of the story finds sudden inspiration to be ultra-competent or some quickly resolved emotional crisis which leaves him emotionally stable and ready to face the future.


Don't quite get the Jon Snow reference, to be honest, as I remember him being fairly sympathetic throughout (but it's been 7-8 years since I last read a SOIAF book in full, so my memory in regards to that series is about as good as it may be for the earlier books of this one).

In some ways, perhaps, the is the best legacy of this series. I suspect Rand is, in a way, and inspiration for the "failed savior" who's the villain in Sanderson's first Mistborn novel. And maybe other such failed heroes.


Maybe for Sanderson, but I doubt it strongly for others, as that motif has been around for a long time. Even in genre fiction, Moorcock I know played with it in "Behold the Man," although that story was much more explicitly religious in tone.


I'd probably do what I've been trying to do online for years (and in the classroom), which is tease out elements of contention and then ask questions in such a way as to (hopefully) get the student to ask deeper questions without being told by me that s/he was wrong.

Nice one :) (and I believe you). But this is hardly something you expect to do when someone with experience in the field is writing a review, no?


The only thing I expect when I read a review is that the reviewer has a discernible point of view based on his/her experiences with the work at hand.


How many Anglo-Americans do you expect would make any sort of connection to the Jains? Sometimes, the xeroxed source becomes viewed as being the original source because of cultural differences/ignorance of other societies. Viewing this through the lens of privileged information makes interpreting his conclusions tricky. Yes, you are aware of those parallels, but for someone who is not and this being an issue where relatively few readers would be aware, are you interpreting his stance as being one that should reflect a deeper, more reflective understanding, an understanding that usually doesn't occur the first time something is read? It's the very fact that his WoT posts are so obviously that of someone who's never read the various arguments on the books' sources/influences that fascinates me - you don't often get that around forums like this...because oftentimes, some regulars are so used to their pet interpretations or have come to view neophyte reader interpretations as facile or just wrongheaded that sometimes they lash out at the new readers, often silencing them in the process.

Good point about the Jains not being an obvious reference. But while naming them may be beyond Robert's, the critical scene of this book, where Rand sees through the eyes of his Aiel ancestors into their non-violent past, should at least have clued him in to the fact that there are some very non-Fremen influences that have been woven into Aiel society.


Perhaps, or maybe the ancestral memory elements in the latter Dune novels would have come to mind here as well?

More importantly, those events make it abundantly clear to the blindest of readers what the importance of the Aiel is to the story, yet Robert's found no reason to comment upon it. The reason is probably that he skimmed through all this and got the significance of nothing, but that is hardly excusable.


To be honest, if the Aiel are that important to the story, then the author(s) perhaps should have spent more time with them after the fifth book, as for whole books, there's barely anything at all referencing their inner conflicts over what is happening.

Can't say I agree with your assessment of why his piece is worth a read though. Plenty of new people enter message boards with their own assessments and ideas of what the books mean. And while it will take time before they are seen as people worth reading and paying attention to (if they are good), there is no "drowning" out of interpretations. Not a month goes by without someone complaining about the pace of the books, or the women or a host of other things. And they are heard because they don't completely deride the books and then provide no concrete basis for their judgment.


While some here are close to being up at arms with me because I do have a few derisory comments and some concrete basis for them, even if most of the points are debatable (as they should be)? :P

I mean, look at his final list of "wise sayings". It is abundantly clear he read one that irked him, and to juice up his review, he randomly picked out sentences from the book and added them. As someone pointed out, some of those were normal dialogue, and none of those were as absurd as he implied them to be. It is the kind of thing I despise.


Interesting, as I recall reading some of them and finding them mildly irritating, but admittedly not worthy of dwelling on them.


Not because of who he is and what he does, but because the perspective is different from those who post regularly on the topic. May not agree with some (or any) of it, but having such perspectives to consider from time to time can be invaluable in getting experienced readers to reflect back on their own development. Or at least I'd hope something like that would be taking place.

That might have been the case if he had actually shown that he read the books, considered them, and then reviewed them. That is blatantly not the case.


I dunno. I do think he had some perceptive things to say, but what appeals to some is not going to appeal to others. Found it interesting how much he disliked the fifth book, though.


Perhaps compared to those, but I'm comparing it to itself here.

I was just explaining why it is not much discussed.


Ah, OK.

I haven't read them, but apparently some of RJ's other works had a lot more sex, so it doesn't seem like he's against it in writing or something. But certainly an interesting issue to discuss.


I wonder if those had quasi-fetish scenes in them as well :P


I don't know if that's the case or not. Will be curious to see what he has to say to your blog comment, though.

That should be fun to read.


Who knows? I'm trying not to, but it may be a case where I'm downplaying certain aspects because I can see the point, even if I don't always agree with the delivery!

I can see some of the points too. Which is why I said nothing at all when he reviewed the first three books. I don't think them as terrible as he does, but I can understand. Didn't stop me from noticing that he was getting repetitive, and failing to treat each book by its own merits.


Fair enough.
Illusions fall like the husk of a fruit, one after another, and the fruit is experience. - Narrator, Sylvie

Je suis méchant.
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Author Adam Roberts tackled the WoT. - 19/03/2010 09:30:25 PM 9853 Views
A question for Larry - 19/03/2010 09:40:37 PM 2043 Views
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You know what else I'm finding annoying? - 07/04/2010 07:29:37 AM 1373 Views
Fully Agree *NM* - 21/06/2010 12:41:05 AM 741 Views
well I agree and disagree - 20/03/2010 06:51:29 AM 1723 Views
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I'd say just The Eye of the World - 20/03/2010 05:26:19 PM 1260 Views
Indeed - 21/03/2010 12:34:19 AM 1275 Views
These reviews are pathetic - 20/03/2010 12:52:22 PM 1263 Views
I'm amused by some of the responses - 20/03/2010 07:20:03 PM 1614 Views
+1 *NM* - 20/03/2010 10:48:14 PM 836 Views
Are you suggesting that we are unqualified to disagree with him ? - 20/03/2010 11:21:44 PM 1433 Views
No, I said rather that it's ridiculous to make such disparaging comments about his takes - 20/03/2010 11:37:56 PM 1469 Views
I considered doing so - 21/03/2010 12:27:27 AM 1252 Views
I will reply to myself: What's the problem McFly , chicken ? - 21/03/2010 12:29:36 AM 1208 Views
My sister called me chicken once - 10/04/2010 01:18:31 AM 1253 Views
what's wrong runt... are you yellah? *NM* - 10/04/2010 10:40:16 AM 836 Views
NICE! *NM* - 10/04/2010 02:19:44 PM 691 Views
Re: I'm amused by some of the responses - 23/03/2010 04:50:42 PM 1350 Views
And I'm even more amused by this response - 24/03/2010 01:11:50 AM 1273 Views
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Nah, TGS was the only serious review of the series I've done - 24/03/2010 04:31:28 AM 1196 Views
On a completely unrelated note... - 24/03/2010 06:15:25 AM 1062 Views
Ha! - 24/03/2010 06:34:48 AM 1216 Views
My congratulations then . *NM* - 24/03/2010 06:36:11 AM 1106 Views
You say it as if I had been condemned to hell! - 24/03/2010 07:13:45 AM 1033 Views
No. Well, maybe. - 24/03/2010 06:52:28 PM 1118 Views
! - 24/03/2010 06:54:34 PM 1174 Views
Re: Author Adam Roberts tackled the WoT. - 22/03/2010 02:47:23 PM 1228 Views
Re: Author Adam Roberts tackled the WoT. - 23/03/2010 01:53:16 PM 1239 Views
Wow, you guys have completely missed the point of the Wheel of Time series - 22/03/2010 05:28:07 PM 1290 Views
There's a point to it? - 22/03/2010 06:47:12 PM 1284 Views
I thought the point was to write about a bunch of stuff happening? - 09/04/2010 03:42:49 PM 1276 Views
Re: Author Adam Roberts tackled the WoT. - 23/03/2010 04:54:38 PM 1207 Views
pfft wth-ever - 26/03/2010 12:35:53 AM 1077 Views
Dude's been up for more awards for his writing than RJ ever was - 26/03/2010 12:28:19 PM 1316 Views
bla bla bla - 29/03/2010 06:17:07 AM 1185 Views
Usually, it's spelled "blah" - 29/03/2010 07:03:51 AM 1207 Views
Wow. That post was more entertaining than Mr. Roberts' review. Thank you *NM* - 29/03/2010 08:23:41 AM 1037 Views
You must have low standards for entertainment - 29/03/2010 08:54:03 AM 1170 Views
Re: You must have low standards for entertainment - 29/03/2010 09:13:44 AM 1282 Views
I know you were, thus the at the least of my comment - 29/03/2010 09:19:30 AM 1170 Views
Unimpressed - 29/03/2010 10:50:07 PM 1525 Views
Thank you - 30/03/2010 12:35:39 AM 1108 Views
*Standing ovation for DomA* - 30/03/2010 07:36:59 AM 1302 Views
Yes. Also, Roberts is a wanker. *NM* - 05/04/2010 09:28:57 PM 855 Views
Re: Dude's been up for more awards for his writing than RJ ever was - 29/03/2010 04:32:23 PM 1275 Views
Might want to re-read their Wikis again. - 29/03/2010 07:07:11 PM 1170 Views
Awards - 29/03/2010 07:42:03 PM 1150 Views
That link is out of date - 29/03/2010 07:54:56 PM 1121 Views
Re: That link is out of date - 29/03/2010 08:22:03 PM 1252 Views
This is a battle of win/lose? - 29/03/2010 08:47:54 PM 1176 Views
Re: This is a battle of win/lose? - 29/03/2010 09:03:07 PM 1234 Views
*considers employing the Chewbacca defense* - 29/03/2010 09:28:06 PM 1206 Views
Re: *considers employing the Chewbacca defense* - 29/03/2010 09:44:58 PM 1239 Views
The final point explains the "defense" - 30/03/2010 12:24:56 AM 1089 Views
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No, no, no - 30/03/2010 06:38:41 PM 1156 Views
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Still continuing, huh? - 31/03/2010 02:10:13 AM 1204 Views
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Those were polls - 31/03/2010 08:46:07 PM 1146 Views
Re: Those were polls - 05/04/2010 03:22:13 PM 1086 Views
Does it gives him right to insult me? - 13/04/2011 02:10:32 PM 1096 Views
I wouldn't know. Was he speaking directly to you? - 14/04/2011 11:28:16 PM 1261 Views
He's now reviewed the third book - 26/03/2010 12:27:16 PM 1318 Views
Well, this time I must disagree with him . - 29/03/2010 07:31:40 AM 1150 Views
I don't think he was claiming that RJ was alone in doing that - 29/03/2010 07:44:07 AM 1112 Views
Hah! - 29/03/2010 06:07:28 PM 1115 Views
Well... - 29/03/2010 06:52:10 PM 1103 Views
Differing perspectives, I guess. - 29/03/2010 07:58:13 PM 1179 Views
I suppose - 29/03/2010 08:50:43 PM 1116 Views
Re: I suppose - 30/03/2010 12:18:30 AM 1275 Views
True - 30/03/2010 12:23:28 AM 1110 Views
Hey, DomA, do you know why the Shienarans randomly speak in the Old Tongue? - 30/03/2010 12:52:01 AM 1023 Views
Re: Hey, DomA, do you know why the Shienarans randomly speak in the Old Tongue? - 30/03/2010 07:45:08 AM 1156 Views
But why only them? - 30/03/2010 08:07:00 AM 1188 Views
Re: But why only them? - 30/03/2010 03:56:54 PM 1132 Views
Re: But why only them? - 30/03/2010 08:29:37 PM 1218 Views
I really liked a lot of the minor characters in The Great Hunt. - 30/03/2010 12:49:03 AM 1198 Views
I barely thought twice about those, to be honest - 30/03/2010 06:39:55 PM 1175 Views
I can't wait what he's going to try to do with TFoH and beyond - 28/03/2010 08:18:59 PM 1211 Views
Glad you enjoyed it - 29/03/2010 09:33:43 PM 1054 Views
The Shadow Rising review - 02/04/2010 09:42:53 AM 1302 Views
I wonder if this borders on trolling - 02/04/2010 02:29:58 PM 9919 Views
You want complaining? You got it... - 02/04/2010 06:38:09 PM 1206 Views
That would be a mistake - 02/04/2010 09:16:25 PM 1381 Views
Re: That would be a mistake - 02/04/2010 10:28:56 PM 1097 Views
I agree, Roberts is more and more coming across to me as just bitter - 10/04/2010 01:24:52 AM 1239 Views
Little late to this one as well - 10/04/2010 11:12:04 AM 1283 Views
Perhaps you should have led with this bit - 10/04/2010 02:52:23 PM 1336 Views
Re: I wonder if this borders on trolling - 04/04/2010 09:16:22 AM 1183 Views
What review? I couldn't find one... - 02/04/2010 08:00:45 PM 1376 Views
Re: What review? I couldn't find one... - 02/04/2010 09:22:13 PM 1344 Views
See my comment below - 02/04/2010 09:32:54 PM 1338 Views
Re: See my comment below - 03/04/2010 09:31:22 AM 1759 Views
Sorry I'm late in responding, but I've been quite busy this week - 07/04/2010 09:45:48 PM 1562 Views
Yes, I can probably agree with what you say here. - 08/04/2010 12:29:16 AM 1066 Views
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I agree completely. *NM* - 02/04/2010 09:53:44 PM 740 Views
Speaking of irritation - 02/04/2010 10:50:04 PM 1322 Views
Commentary, then? - 02/04/2010 09:27:18 PM 1158 Views
Here's the thing... - 02/04/2010 10:11:18 PM 1158 Views
Re: Here's the thing... - 02/04/2010 10:31:56 PM 1036 Views
Re: Here's the thing... - 03/04/2010 01:34:05 AM 1075 Views
I somehow overlooked this last week, it seems - 10/04/2010 11:01:17 AM 1357 Views
Indeed - 02/04/2010 10:34:00 PM 1026 Views
Re: Commentary, then? - 05/04/2010 03:44:07 PM 1121 Views
for a man that bitterly complains about an author who is padding his work - 08/04/2010 09:41:07 PM 1273 Views
1400 words is long-winded? - 09/04/2010 10:07:41 AM 1325 Views
since you can sum up those 1400 words in about 25 yes that's longwinded - 09/04/2010 01:36:16 PM 1188 Views
Except I didn't really sum it up, as I left out quite a bit - 10/04/2010 11:15:42 AM 1257 Views
You are very defensive over this - 10/04/2010 01:54:15 PM 1029 Views
Nah, more of a devil's advocate than anything else - 12/04/2010 03:57:12 AM 1104 Views
Re: Nah, more of a devil's advocate than anything else - 12/04/2010 05:30:53 PM 1039 Views
You sound like a Goodkind webmaster from a couple of years ago - 12/04/2010 06:58:42 PM 1123 Views
You don't come across as a devil's advocate - 30/03/2011 03:07:32 PM 1064 Views
Well Larry I have started reading Gradsil by Adam Roberts - 07/04/2010 08:59:28 PM 1217 Views
I demand a paragraph by paragraph review, with footnotes! - 07/04/2010 09:50:39 PM 1155 Views
Re: I demand a paragraph by paragraph review, with footnotes! - 08/04/2010 01:06:20 PM 1031 Views
Which Invisible Man? - 09/04/2010 09:58:44 AM 1227 Views
Re: Which Invisible Man? - 09/04/2010 01:26:42 PM 1135 Views
I have a very different take on that book - 10/04/2010 11:17:13 AM 1106 Views
Re: I demand a paragraph by paragraph review, with footnotes! - 09/04/2010 01:45:44 PM 1181 Views
Hrmm... - 10/04/2010 11:19:01 AM 989 Views
Re: Well Larry I have started reading Gradsil by Adam Roberts - 12/04/2010 05:37:36 PM 1205 Views
He brings up some interesting points, if in an unnecessarily rude manner - 08/04/2010 12:42:25 PM 1159 Views
To be honest, I doubt most readers of the series obsess over it that much - 09/04/2010 10:05:49 AM 1190 Views
Re: To be honest, I doubt most readers of the series obsess over it that much - 09/04/2010 01:28:17 PM 1706 Views
Re: To be honest, I doubt most readers of the series obsess over it that much - 10/04/2010 11:40:22 AM 1099 Views
why are you so bothered by people being unimpressed with Roberts? - 10/04/2010 02:19:08 PM 1224 Views
I don't understand it either - 11/04/2010 12:44:25 PM 1188 Views
right? - 11/04/2010 02:13:00 PM 1196 Views
Nah - 12/04/2010 04:13:44 AM 989 Views
And in vol. 5, Roberts discovers the horrors of the circus - 09/04/2010 09:57:03 AM 1118 Views
5 reviews without saying more than "I hate the series" - 09/04/2010 01:31:13 PM 1051 Views
Basically he just states the "nothing happens"-argument... - 09/04/2010 03:26:02 PM 1035 Views
Well, what was really resolved here? - 10/04/2010 11:25:25 AM 1052 Views
Well... - 12/04/2010 05:05:20 PM 1248 Views
well exactly - 12/04/2010 05:33:11 PM 1270 Views
So very little was resolved and much was set into motion, then? - 12/04/2010 06:55:45 PM 1213 Views
Yes... - 12/04/2010 10:51:08 PM 1004 Views
Ever read Umberto Eco's How To Travel with a Salmon? - 12/04/2010 11:07:19 PM 1213 Views
I guess... - 13/04/2010 10:03:03 AM 1263 Views
Sounds like you value prolixity for the sake of prolixity, to be honest - 13/04/2010 04:41:07 PM 2419 Views
Nah... - 13/04/2010 05:29:34 PM 1021 Views
He's read and enjoyed Proust, among others - 13/04/2010 07:37:39 PM 1060 Views
Ah, well... - 13/04/2010 09:45:45 PM 1036 Views
Dismissive, much? - 13/04/2010 10:52:30 PM 1187 Views
About that bifurcation... - 14/04/2010 02:02:15 AM 1153 Views
I'm rather moderate - 14/04/2010 10:11:30 AM 1066 Views
I'm just a liberation theologist at heart - 15/04/2010 01:51:16 PM 1989 Views
So, if you don't mind... - 13/04/2010 05:51:06 AM 1142 Views
That's fine with me - 13/04/2010 06:31:41 AM 1110 Views
I'm sorry, but he's totally right. "The Circus" made me put down this series for 5 YEARS. - 09/04/2010 03:38:16 PM 1125 Views
I didn't find it quite that bad, but... - 11/04/2010 08:27:52 AM 1035 Views
LoC represented a sharp drop in quality!!? - 19/05/2010 03:27:21 PM 1148 Views
And ignores everything else... - 09/04/2010 05:10:00 PM 1210 Views
Inchoatus went offline a couple of years ago - 10/04/2010 11:42:26 AM 2109 Views
This guy is going to get what he deserves... - 09/04/2010 10:26:14 PM 1115 Views
I'm waiting with bated breath for his CoT review *NM* - 10/04/2010 01:00:59 PM 830 Views
Just wanted to point out that he is not reviewing the series. - 16/04/2010 04:04:49 PM 1139 Views
Lord of Chaos commentary - 16/04/2010 03:39:39 PM 1142 Views
He has reached - The Hump. - 16/04/2010 03:55:51 PM 1107 Views
Re: He has reached - The Hump. - 18/04/2010 08:08:59 AM 1306 Views
No no. It was Lord of Heaven! - 16/04/2010 05:51:11 PM 1060 Views
Yeah, I noticed that - 16/04/2010 11:16:26 PM 982 Views
I would love the see him review Goodkind... - 16/04/2010 11:51:07 PM 1152 Views
Finally re-read that post - 20/04/2010 09:35:45 PM 1095 Views
The magic items are mostly irrelevant... - 21/04/2010 03:37:36 AM 1114 Views
A Crown of Swords - or is it deco-porn? - 23/04/2010 08:36:17 AM 1212 Views
Re: A Crown of Swords - or is it deco-porn? - 29/04/2010 06:02:28 PM 1109 Views
I disagree - 29/04/2010 09:34:49 PM 985 Views
I agree. - 29/04/2010 09:45:29 PM 1170 Views
Took me a moment to realize with whom you were agreeing - 29/04/2010 10:19:05 PM 1077 Views
Well, I did mention the necklines get overdone... - 06/05/2010 06:17:46 PM 1415 Views
Well, there's now also the tea to comment about - 07/05/2010 11:29:03 AM 1164 Views
A bit of a stumble this week - 30/04/2010 01:53:31 PM 1211 Views
The Path of Daggers commentary - 07/05/2010 10:39:03 AM 1193 Views
You'd think a Brit would like the tea... *NM* - 11/05/2010 04:05:42 PM 723 Views
Maybe he's just a contrarian? - 11/05/2010 07:55:43 PM 1048 Views
Winter's Heart - 21/05/2010 12:46:14 PM 1200 Views
To be fair - 21/05/2010 01:56:49 PM 1296 Views
I think WH was my least favorite of the WoT novels I re-read - 21/05/2010 04:49:31 PM 1102 Views
Re: I think WH was my least favorite of the WoT novels I re-read - 25/05/2010 05:05:09 PM 1285 Views
WH was my least favorite novel in the series, and that is saying a lot. - 28/05/2010 03:15:13 PM 1196 Views
I completely agree with his KoD post. Here is my favorite quote: - 28/05/2010 03:08:31 PM 1370 Views
CoT, you mean (link to actual post included) - 28/05/2010 04:56:10 PM 1214 Views
Yep, I meant COT. *NM* - 28/05/2010 07:02:48 PM 701 Views
Knife of Dreams - 18/06/2010 09:07:27 AM 1120 Views
Re: Knife of Dreams - 19/06/2010 05:49:38 AM 1194 Views
Agree... - 19/06/2010 05:08:44 PM 1179 Views
Roberts reflects back on WoT 1-11, with answers to questions asked of him - 25/06/2010 12:51:29 PM 1191 Views
This guy should be burned at the stake - 25/06/2010 03:22:34 PM 8579 Views
Are you done making a fool out of yourself, Mark? - 26/06/2010 06:53:37 PM 1154 Views
Oh come on... - 26/06/2010 09:06:01 PM 1279 Views
Well, the burning at the stake was a bit much... - 26/06/2010 10:19:40 PM 1264 Views
Well, really! You brought the comment to his notice... - 26/06/2010 11:34:08 PM 1220 Views
And your point is...? - 27/06/2010 12:37:00 AM 1298 Views
Well... - 27/06/2010 05:38:12 AM 1242 Views
Indeed... I think it's rather clear that Larry's goal has been to cause trouble - 27/06/2010 10:57:36 AM 1379 Views
There is no "borderline" about it. - 28/03/2011 05:17:15 PM 1126 Views
Ridiculous - 27/06/2010 06:38:46 AM 1151 Views
I like his FAQ and his overall musings on its' popularity. - 29/06/2010 06:35:10 PM 1220 Views
One year later... - 27/03/2011 03:40:29 AM 1134 Views
Re: One year later... - 28/03/2011 05:03:32 PM 1069 Views
I see you subconsciously support critical takes. - 28/03/2011 11:41:48 PM 1361 Views
No I conciously support telling you and him that you are pathetic, arrogent, & jelous. *NM* - 30/03/2011 01:40:36 PM 787 Views
Jealous? - 30/03/2011 05:20:32 PM 1119 Views
I agree, I didn't even notice it was an old post, definitely did not deserve to be revived. *NM* - 30/03/2011 02:41:12 PM 692 Views
Seconded. - 30/03/2011 04:04:36 PM 1019 Views
Now I notice as well that this is a year old. You're very silly, Larry, very silly. *NM* - 30/03/2011 04:13:38 PM 733 Views
Yep! - 30/03/2011 05:16:38 PM 1049 Views
Jeez Larry, you're starting to sound like a GRRM detractor. - 31/03/2011 03:01:38 PM 1152 Views
Nah, no detractor - 01/04/2011 03:00:41 PM 1275 Views
Could a thread be locked? - 31/03/2011 07:48:26 PM 1036 Views
Re: One year later... - 01/04/2011 02:55:02 AM 1301 Views
Yep - 01/04/2011 02:57:52 PM 1212 Views

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