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Re: Here's the thing... Larry Send a noteboard - 02/04/2010 10:31:56 PM

Well, Roberts is known for his snark in reviews, which I did note when I posted this thread originally :P

Can I claim RJ is known for his long winded stories, and that should be evident given the lengths of the books? :P


You could and I believe those familiar with epic fantasies would get the joke behind that comment as well :P

Snark is all very well, but when that all there is, calling his pieces reviews or commentaries seems silly to me. Its like submitting all those Goodkind threads on Westeros (I don't know why, but that comparison just keeps coming back to me) as a PhD thesis on The Sword of Truth!


I don't think that's all there is to it, or else I wouldn't have posted it here (or at best, it would have been posted with a disclaimer noting that it was nothing but snark, to be taken lightly). The issues he raises about the nature of the sex/violent scenes, the way the prose is constructed, the plot branches, character development (or perceived lack thereof) are issues that are worthy of discussion. How well he explores those issues is the matter of contention, I suppose.

And yes, some of his complaints are repetitive, but perhaps some of those are due to certain perceived "defects" cropping up throughout the series? The prose certainly never gets to the "sparkling" level at any point that I recall; it did feel a bit padded throughout, to be honest. That is something that could be raised as a point about each individual volume. Whether you agree with it or not is a different matter :P

Of course there are criticisms that will run common to all the books. If I were to review them, I'd have positive things to say that will repeat too. But the overall structure of review is more or less the same, with more or less the same set of complaints, with barely anything new being added by the reviewer. If the point being made is that all the books are padded, full of clumsy prose and completely lifted-off from various authors the reviewer has read, then why have 12 reviews? Wouldn't one review after all the books are done with be better?


Actually, I agree that a single overarching review would have worked better, but since he chose to review each of the 12 individually, I guess the main sticking points will be made over and over. But here's a question that just occurred to me - How much "growth" do we see in the series from a technical aspect? Is the structure of the prose and scenes relatively static, or do we see discernible shifts in how characters and situations are presented?

It isn't like there aren't other elements he cannot comment about. Even if he wants to be exclusively negative about the books, there are issues he has barely raised which many other readers have complained about. What about a look at the gender imbalances portrayed in the books? That is pretty glaringly obvious by this book. Is Jordan's whole premise ridiculous? Or is it just shoddy execution?


Those are indeed aspects I wonder if Roberts has seen. Perhaps it'll appear in a later review? If it doesn't, then I'd agree with you that it was a major oversight on his part.

What about the whole savior-as-destroyer aspect of Rand that becomes so obvious in this book? Far from Jordan's invention or anything, but certainly a departure from the Tolkein-spawn fantasies of the time.


I don't know if it's as much this book or it appears in the next two, though. But yes, this is an important issue. Question is, how well did Jordan execute this vision?


And for someone who admittedly read it hurriedly, that's grounds for dismissing his point that there are indeed those similarities? It's little different than reviewers of various epic fantasy works noting the similarities (and possible derivations) between works. Yes, it is quite likely RJ wanted to have those similarities in there to serve a different purpose than what Roberts appears to concede, but there are quite a few of them, if I recall.

Come, this is a ridiculous argument. If you gave a student a copy of the Silmarillion to review, and he skimmed through it and all he could say is that the whole fall of Morgoth story was similar to Paradise Lost, you're not going to excuse him are you?


I'd probably do what I've been trying to do online for years (and in the classroom), which is tease out elements of contention and then ask questions in such a way as to (hopefully) get the student to ask deeper questions without being told by me that s/he was wrong.

The Dune parallels are there. So are the parallels to the Jains, and a host of others. Almost certainly, some of these also played a part in Herbert's own portrayal of the Fremen. But Robert's chose the intellectually lazy way out and simply pointed out the easy parallel.


How many Anglo-Americans do you expect would make any sort of connection to the Jains? Sometimes, the xeroxed source becomes viewed as being the original source because of cultural differences/ignorance of other societies. Viewing this through the lens of privileged information makes interpreting his conclusions tricky. Yes, you are aware of those parallels, but for someone who is not and this being an issue where relatively few readers would be aware, are you interpreting his stance as being one that should reflect a deeper, more reflective understanding, an understanding that usually doesn't occur the first time something is read? It's the very fact that his WoT posts are so obviously that of someone who's never read the various arguments on the books' sources/influences that fascinates me - you don't often get that around forums like this...because oftentimes, some regulars are so used to their pet interpretations or have come to view neophyte reader interpretations as facile or just wrongheaded that sometimes they lash out at the new readers, often silencing them in the process.

Why then is his review in any way worthy of reading or commenting upon? The author clearly has no time for the book, no time to read it, no time to think about it a little before commenting. What then makes it different from the host of Amazon reviews out there except the length and the admittedly better language? Are we to read this because it is a good review, or because a Cambridge professor and author with a penchant for snark decided he needed a book to deride?


Not because of who he is and what he does, but because the perspective is different from those who post regularly on the topic. May not agree with some (or any) of it, but having such perspectives to consider from time to time can be invaluable in getting experienced readers to reflect back on their own development. Or at least I'd hope something like that would be taking place.


I think it's more of a case where there is a more graphic description of warfare and suffering (and quasi-bondage scenes later in the series) than there is a deeper exploration of the coming-of-age issues that the characters have. The emotional/romance/love parts are perhaps a weak PG compared to the PG-13 to almost R-rated violence. That is something that is interesting, to say the least. But it's probably been discussed to death here over the years, I guess?

Not really, because, as FT pointed out, in the new era of "gritty" fantasy, the Wheel of Time is fairly tame when it comes to violence.


Perhaps compared to those, but I'm comparing it to itself here.

The few times there is sex on screen, the issue is skirted about, yes. While it is certainly worth exploring why Jordan felt he needed to do that, while showing a greater (but nowhere close to gratuitous) level of detail with the violence, that is not what Robert's talks about at all. He is evidently bored by the fight scenes, which are way below the lofty levels in which his nose resides. But some raunchy sex would do very well, thank you.


I don't know if that's the case or not. Will be curious to see what he has to say to your blog comment, though.

It seems to me you are almost projecting your own (reasonable and more authentic, because you actually read the book) critique of the book on the Robert's review.


Who knows? I'm trying not to, but it may be a case where I'm downplaying certain aspects because I can see the point, even if I don't always agree with the delivery!
Illusions fall like the husk of a fruit, one after another, and the fruit is experience. - Narrator, Sylvie

Je suis méchant.
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Author Adam Roberts tackled the WoT. - 19/03/2010 09:30:25 PM 12466 Views
A question for Larry - 19/03/2010 09:40:37 PM 2937 Views
Roberto Bolaño - 19/03/2010 11:09:57 PM 2752 Views
I completely agree with his review. - 19/03/2010 11:11:17 PM 2884 Views
Ouch! Somebody pull that guy off RJ! *NM* - 20/03/2010 03:47:07 AM 1431 Views
Can't say that I really disagree. - 20/03/2010 05:19:26 AM 2203 Views
My problem with the reviews: - 20/03/2010 06:29:08 AM 2864 Views
Hear Hear !!! ....................... = ........................ *NM* - 20/03/2010 06:37:11 AM 1370 Views
I agree - 20/03/2010 11:19:29 AM 2322 Views
You know what else I'm finding annoying? - 07/04/2010 07:29:37 AM 2254 Views
Fully Agree *NM* - 21/06/2010 12:41:05 AM 1254 Views
well I agree and disagree - 20/03/2010 06:51:29 AM 2618 Views
Re: well I agree and disagree - 20/03/2010 02:12:43 PM 2134 Views
I'd say just The Eye of the World - 20/03/2010 05:26:19 PM 2186 Views
Indeed - 21/03/2010 12:34:19 AM 2107 Views
These reviews are pathetic - 20/03/2010 12:52:22 PM 2119 Views
I'm amused by some of the responses - 20/03/2010 07:20:03 PM 2545 Views
+1 *NM* - 20/03/2010 10:48:14 PM 1586 Views
Are you suggesting that we are unqualified to disagree with him ? - 20/03/2010 11:21:44 PM 2283 Views
No, I said rather that it's ridiculous to make such disparaging comments about his takes - 20/03/2010 11:37:56 PM 2286 Views
I considered doing so - 21/03/2010 12:27:27 AM 2146 Views
I will reply to myself: What's the problem McFly , chicken ? - 21/03/2010 12:29:36 AM 2107 Views
My sister called me chicken once - 10/04/2010 01:18:31 AM 2153 Views
what's wrong runt... are you yellah? *NM* - 10/04/2010 10:40:16 AM 1334 Views
NICE! *NM* - 10/04/2010 02:19:44 PM 1195 Views
Re: I'm amused by some of the responses - 23/03/2010 04:50:42 PM 2191 Views
And I'm even more amused by this response - 24/03/2010 01:11:50 AM 2119 Views
Re: And I'm even more amused by this response - 24/03/2010 03:03:28 AM 1988 Views
Nah, TGS was the only serious review of the series I've done - 24/03/2010 04:31:28 AM 2082 Views
On a completely unrelated note... - 24/03/2010 06:15:25 AM 1991 Views
Ha! - 24/03/2010 06:34:48 AM 2028 Views
My congratulations then . *NM* - 24/03/2010 06:36:11 AM 1939 Views
You say it as if I had been condemned to hell! - 24/03/2010 07:13:45 AM 1847 Views
No. Well, maybe. - 24/03/2010 06:52:28 PM 2029 Views
! - 24/03/2010 06:54:34 PM 2036 Views
Re: Author Adam Roberts tackled the WoT. - 22/03/2010 02:47:23 PM 2154 Views
Re: Author Adam Roberts tackled the WoT. - 23/03/2010 01:53:16 PM 2129 Views
Wow, you guys have completely missed the point of the Wheel of Time series - 22/03/2010 05:28:07 PM 2171 Views
There's a point to it? - 22/03/2010 06:47:12 PM 2139 Views
Yes, RJ has explained it at least a few times and the main sequence of each book invokes his message *NM* - 24/03/2010 02:09:01 AM 1334 Views
You're not taking me seriously now, are you? - 24/03/2010 02:54:37 AM 2084 Views
I meant the reason why RJ wrote WoT in the first place - 24/03/2010 06:39:47 AM 2063 Views
I thought the point was to write about a bunch of stuff happening? - 09/04/2010 03:42:49 PM 2131 Views
Re: Author Adam Roberts tackled the WoT. - 23/03/2010 04:54:38 PM 2092 Views
pfft wth-ever - 26/03/2010 12:35:53 AM 1963 Views
Dude's been up for more awards for his writing than RJ ever was - 26/03/2010 12:28:19 PM 2210 Views
bla bla bla - 29/03/2010 06:17:07 AM 2082 Views
Usually, it's spelled "blah" - 29/03/2010 07:03:51 AM 2054 Views
Wow. That post was more entertaining than Mr. Roberts' review. Thank you *NM* - 29/03/2010 08:23:41 AM 1510 Views
You must have low standards for entertainment - 29/03/2010 08:54:03 AM 2017 Views
Re: You must have low standards for entertainment - 29/03/2010 09:13:44 AM 2148 Views
I know you were, thus the at the least of my comment - 29/03/2010 09:19:30 AM 1965 Views
Unimpressed - 29/03/2010 10:50:07 PM 2415 Views
Thank you - 30/03/2010 12:35:39 AM 1866 Views
*Standing ovation for DomA* - 30/03/2010 07:36:59 AM 2158 Views
Yes. Also, Roberts is a wanker. *NM* - 05/04/2010 09:28:57 PM 1344 Views
Re: Dude's been up for more awards for his writing than RJ ever was - 29/03/2010 04:32:23 PM 2113 Views
Might want to re-read their Wikis again. - 29/03/2010 07:07:11 PM 1997 Views
Awards - 29/03/2010 07:42:03 PM 1958 Views
That link is out of date - 29/03/2010 07:54:56 PM 1945 Views
Re: That link is out of date - 29/03/2010 08:22:03 PM 2074 Views
This is a battle of win/lose? - 29/03/2010 08:47:54 PM 1993 Views
Re: This is a battle of win/lose? - 29/03/2010 09:03:07 PM 2023 Views
*considers employing the Chewbacca defense* - 29/03/2010 09:28:06 PM 1998 Views
Re: *considers employing the Chewbacca defense* - 29/03/2010 09:44:58 PM 2174 Views
The final point explains the "defense" - 30/03/2010 12:24:56 AM 1896 Views
Re: The final point explains the "defense" - 30/03/2010 01:33:04 PM 1884 Views
No, no, no - 30/03/2010 06:38:41 PM 1939 Views
Re: No, no, no - 30/03/2010 07:51:34 PM 2064 Views
Still continuing, huh? - 31/03/2010 02:10:13 AM 2008 Views
Re: Still continuing, huh? - 31/03/2010 03:56:57 PM 1975 Views
Those were polls - 31/03/2010 08:46:07 PM 1982 Views
Re: Those were polls - 05/04/2010 03:22:13 PM 1933 Views
Does it gives him right to insult me? - 13/04/2011 02:10:32 PM 1972 Views
I wouldn't know. Was he speaking directly to you? - 14/04/2011 11:28:16 PM 2077 Views
He's now reviewed the third book - 26/03/2010 12:27:16 PM 2199 Views
Well, this time I must disagree with him . - 29/03/2010 07:31:40 AM 1929 Views
I don't think he was claiming that RJ was alone in doing that - 29/03/2010 07:44:07 AM 1925 Views
Hah! - 29/03/2010 06:07:28 PM 1964 Views
Well... - 29/03/2010 06:52:10 PM 1860 Views
Differing perspectives, I guess. - 29/03/2010 07:58:13 PM 2032 Views
I suppose - 29/03/2010 08:50:43 PM 1953 Views
Re: I suppose - 30/03/2010 12:18:30 AM 2100 Views
True - 30/03/2010 12:23:28 AM 1934 Views
Hey, DomA, do you know why the Shienarans randomly speak in the Old Tongue? - 30/03/2010 12:52:01 AM 1902 Views
Re: Hey, DomA, do you know why the Shienarans randomly speak in the Old Tongue? - 30/03/2010 07:45:08 AM 2062 Views
But why only them? - 30/03/2010 08:07:00 AM 2000 Views
Re: But why only them? - 30/03/2010 03:56:54 PM 1950 Views
Re: But why only them? - 30/03/2010 08:29:37 PM 2061 Views
I really liked a lot of the minor characters in The Great Hunt. - 30/03/2010 12:49:03 AM 1978 Views
I barely thought twice about those, to be honest - 30/03/2010 06:39:55 PM 1997 Views
I can't wait what he's going to try to do with TFoH and beyond - 28/03/2010 08:18:59 PM 2086 Views
Glad you enjoyed it - 29/03/2010 09:33:43 PM 1906 Views
The Shadow Rising review - 02/04/2010 09:42:53 AM 2182 Views
I wonder if this borders on trolling - 02/04/2010 02:29:58 PM 10743 Views
You want complaining? You got it... - 02/04/2010 06:38:09 PM 2068 Views
That would be a mistake - 02/04/2010 09:16:25 PM 2196 Views
Re: That would be a mistake - 02/04/2010 10:28:56 PM 1948 Views
I agree, Roberts is more and more coming across to me as just bitter - 10/04/2010 01:24:52 AM 2072 Views
Little late to this one as well - 10/04/2010 11:12:04 AM 2091 Views
Perhaps you should have led with this bit - 10/04/2010 02:52:23 PM 2162 Views
Re: I wonder if this borders on trolling - 04/04/2010 09:16:22 AM 2054 Views
What review? I couldn't find one... - 02/04/2010 08:00:45 PM 2155 Views
Re: What review? I couldn't find one... - 02/04/2010 09:22:13 PM 2166 Views
See my comment below - 02/04/2010 09:32:54 PM 2220 Views
Re: See my comment below - 03/04/2010 09:31:22 AM 2570 Views
Sorry I'm late in responding, but I've been quite busy this week - 07/04/2010 09:45:48 PM 2409 Views
Yes, I can probably agree with what you say here. - 08/04/2010 12:29:16 AM 1873 Views
- 08/04/2010 12:32:53 AM 2015 Views
I agree completely. *NM* - 02/04/2010 09:53:44 PM 1237 Views
Speaking of irritation - 02/04/2010 10:50:04 PM 2127 Views
Commentary, then? - 02/04/2010 09:27:18 PM 1999 Views
Here's the thing... - 02/04/2010 10:11:18 PM 1942 Views
Re: Here's the thing... - 02/04/2010 10:31:56 PM 1790 Views
Re: Here's the thing... - 03/04/2010 01:34:05 AM 1852 Views
I somehow overlooked this last week, it seems - 10/04/2010 11:01:17 AM 2156 Views
Indeed - 02/04/2010 10:34:00 PM 1842 Views
Re: Commentary, then? - 05/04/2010 03:44:07 PM 1927 Views
for a man that bitterly complains about an author who is padding his work - 08/04/2010 09:41:07 PM 2131 Views
1400 words is long-winded? - 09/04/2010 10:07:41 AM 2166 Views
since you can sum up those 1400 words in about 25 yes that's longwinded - 09/04/2010 01:36:16 PM 2046 Views
Except I didn't really sum it up, as I left out quite a bit - 10/04/2010 11:15:42 AM 2078 Views
You are very defensive over this - 10/04/2010 01:54:15 PM 1890 Views
Nah, more of a devil's advocate than anything else - 12/04/2010 03:57:12 AM 1929 Views
Re: Nah, more of a devil's advocate than anything else - 12/04/2010 05:30:53 PM 1857 Views
You sound like a Goodkind webmaster from a couple of years ago - 12/04/2010 06:58:42 PM 1962 Views
You don't come across as a devil's advocate - 30/03/2011 03:07:32 PM 1941 Views
Well Larry I have started reading Gradsil by Adam Roberts - 07/04/2010 08:59:28 PM 2107 Views
I demand a paragraph by paragraph review, with footnotes! - 07/04/2010 09:50:39 PM 1973 Views
Re: I demand a paragraph by paragraph review, with footnotes! - 08/04/2010 01:06:20 PM 1822 Views
Which Invisible Man? - 09/04/2010 09:58:44 AM 2070 Views
Re: Which Invisible Man? - 09/04/2010 01:26:42 PM 2017 Views
I have a very different take on that book - 10/04/2010 11:17:13 AM 1895 Views
Re: I demand a paragraph by paragraph review, with footnotes! - 09/04/2010 01:45:44 PM 1976 Views
Hrmm... - 10/04/2010 11:19:01 AM 1813 Views
Re: Well Larry I have started reading Gradsil by Adam Roberts - 12/04/2010 05:37:36 PM 2044 Views
He brings up some interesting points, if in an unnecessarily rude manner - 08/04/2010 12:42:25 PM 2004 Views
To be honest, I doubt most readers of the series obsess over it that much - 09/04/2010 10:05:49 AM 1998 Views
Re: To be honest, I doubt most readers of the series obsess over it that much - 09/04/2010 01:28:17 PM 2544 Views
Re: To be honest, I doubt most readers of the series obsess over it that much - 10/04/2010 11:40:22 AM 2010 Views
why are you so bothered by people being unimpressed with Roberts? - 10/04/2010 02:19:08 PM 2031 Views
I don't understand it either - 11/04/2010 12:44:25 PM 1995 Views
right? - 11/04/2010 02:13:00 PM 2027 Views
Nah - 12/04/2010 04:13:44 AM 1816 Views
And in vol. 5, Roberts discovers the horrors of the circus - 09/04/2010 09:57:03 AM 1988 Views
5 reviews without saying more than "I hate the series" - 09/04/2010 01:31:13 PM 1841 Views
Basically he just states the "nothing happens"-argument... - 09/04/2010 03:26:02 PM 1886 Views
Well, what was really resolved here? - 10/04/2010 11:25:25 AM 1965 Views
Well... - 12/04/2010 05:05:20 PM 2046 Views
well exactly - 12/04/2010 05:33:11 PM 2113 Views
So very little was resolved and much was set into motion, then? - 12/04/2010 06:55:45 PM 2045 Views
Yes... - 12/04/2010 10:51:08 PM 1793 Views
Ever read Umberto Eco's How To Travel with a Salmon? - 12/04/2010 11:07:19 PM 2110 Views
I guess... - 13/04/2010 10:03:03 AM 2107 Views
Sounds like you value prolixity for the sake of prolixity, to be honest - 13/04/2010 04:41:07 PM 3226 Views
Nah... - 13/04/2010 05:29:34 PM 1800 Views
He's read and enjoyed Proust, among others - 13/04/2010 07:37:39 PM 1880 Views
Ah, well... - 13/04/2010 09:45:45 PM 1826 Views
Dismissive, much? - 13/04/2010 10:52:30 PM 2006 Views
About that bifurcation... - 14/04/2010 02:02:15 AM 1956 Views
I'm rather moderate - 14/04/2010 10:11:30 AM 1873 Views
I'm just a liberation theologist at heart - 15/04/2010 01:51:16 PM 2796 Views
So, if you don't mind... - 13/04/2010 05:51:06 AM 1986 Views
That's fine with me - 13/04/2010 06:31:41 AM 1957 Views
I'm sorry, but he's totally right. "The Circus" made me put down this series for 5 YEARS. - 09/04/2010 03:38:16 PM 2003 Views
I didn't find it quite that bad, but... - 11/04/2010 08:27:52 AM 1990 Views
LoC represented a sharp drop in quality!!? - 19/05/2010 03:27:21 PM 1988 Views
And ignores everything else... - 09/04/2010 05:10:00 PM 2035 Views
Inchoatus went offline a couple of years ago - 10/04/2010 11:42:26 AM 2926 Views
This guy is going to get what he deserves... - 09/04/2010 10:26:14 PM 1967 Views
I'm waiting with bated breath for his CoT review *NM* - 10/04/2010 01:00:59 PM 1309 Views
Just wanted to point out that he is not reviewing the series. - 16/04/2010 04:04:49 PM 1909 Views
Lord of Chaos commentary - 16/04/2010 03:39:39 PM 1960 Views
He has reached - The Hump. - 16/04/2010 03:55:51 PM 1922 Views
Re: He has reached - The Hump. - 18/04/2010 08:08:59 AM 2361 Views
No no. It was Lord of Heaven! - 16/04/2010 05:51:11 PM 1868 Views
Yeah, I noticed that - 16/04/2010 11:16:26 PM 1788 Views
I would love the see him review Goodkind... - 16/04/2010 11:51:07 PM 2008 Views
Finally re-read that post - 20/04/2010 09:35:45 PM 1994 Views
The magic items are mostly irrelevant... - 21/04/2010 03:37:36 AM 1961 Views
A Crown of Swords - or is it deco-porn? - 23/04/2010 08:36:17 AM 2068 Views
Re: A Crown of Swords - or is it deco-porn? - 29/04/2010 06:02:28 PM 1999 Views
I disagree - 29/04/2010 09:34:49 PM 1815 Views
I agree. - 29/04/2010 09:45:29 PM 2031 Views
Took me a moment to realize with whom you were agreeing - 29/04/2010 10:19:05 PM 1947 Views
Well, I did mention the necklines get overdone... - 06/05/2010 06:17:46 PM 2234 Views
Well, there's now also the tea to comment about - 07/05/2010 11:29:03 AM 2064 Views
A bit of a stumble this week - 30/04/2010 01:53:31 PM 2093 Views
The Path of Daggers commentary - 07/05/2010 10:39:03 AM 2134 Views
You'd think a Brit would like the tea... *NM* - 11/05/2010 04:05:42 PM 1178 Views
Maybe he's just a contrarian? - 11/05/2010 07:55:43 PM 1890 Views
Winter's Heart - 21/05/2010 12:46:14 PM 2110 Views
To be fair - 21/05/2010 01:56:49 PM 2226 Views
I think WH was my least favorite of the WoT novels I re-read - 21/05/2010 04:49:31 PM 1970 Views
Re: I think WH was my least favorite of the WoT novels I re-read - 25/05/2010 05:05:09 PM 2117 Views
WH was my least favorite novel in the series, and that is saying a lot. - 28/05/2010 03:15:13 PM 1983 Views
I completely agree with his KoD post. Here is my favorite quote: - 28/05/2010 03:08:31 PM 2293 Views
CoT, you mean (link to actual post included) - 28/05/2010 04:56:10 PM 2127 Views
Yep, I meant COT. *NM* - 28/05/2010 07:02:48 PM 1185 Views
Knife of Dreams - 18/06/2010 09:07:27 AM 1996 Views
Re: Knife of Dreams - 19/06/2010 05:49:38 AM 2077 Views
Agree... - 19/06/2010 05:08:44 PM 2012 Views
Roberts reflects back on WoT 1-11, with answers to questions asked of him - 25/06/2010 12:51:29 PM 2079 Views
This guy should be burned at the stake - 25/06/2010 03:22:34 PM 9519 Views
Are you done making a fool out of yourself, Mark? - 26/06/2010 06:53:37 PM 1992 Views
Oh come on... - 26/06/2010 09:06:01 PM 2094 Views
Well, the burning at the stake was a bit much... - 26/06/2010 10:19:40 PM 2086 Views
Well, really! You brought the comment to his notice... - 26/06/2010 11:34:08 PM 2094 Views
And your point is...? - 27/06/2010 12:37:00 AM 2096 Views
Well... - 27/06/2010 05:38:12 AM 2064 Views
Indeed... I think it's rather clear that Larry's goal has been to cause trouble - 27/06/2010 10:57:36 AM 2233 Views
There is no "borderline" about it. - 28/03/2011 05:17:15 PM 1924 Views
Ridiculous - 27/06/2010 06:38:46 AM 1997 Views
I like his FAQ and his overall musings on its' popularity. - 29/06/2010 06:35:10 PM 1994 Views
One year later... - 27/03/2011 03:40:29 AM 1925 Views
Re: One year later... - 28/03/2011 05:03:32 PM 2171 Views
I see you subconsciously support critical takes. - 28/03/2011 11:41:48 PM 2166 Views
No I conciously support telling you and him that you are pathetic, arrogent, & jelous. *NM* - 30/03/2011 01:40:36 PM 1242 Views
Jealous? - 30/03/2011 05:20:32 PM 1929 Views
I agree, I didn't even notice it was an old post, definitely did not deserve to be revived. *NM* - 30/03/2011 02:41:12 PM 1161 Views
Seconded. - 30/03/2011 04:04:36 PM 1875 Views
Now I notice as well that this is a year old. You're very silly, Larry, very silly. *NM* - 30/03/2011 04:13:38 PM 1288 Views
Yep! - 30/03/2011 05:16:38 PM 1873 Views
Jeez Larry, you're starting to sound like a GRRM detractor. - 31/03/2011 03:01:38 PM 2057 Views
Nah, no detractor - 01/04/2011 03:00:41 PM 2050 Views
Could a thread be locked? - 31/03/2011 07:48:26 PM 1914 Views
Re: One year later... - 01/04/2011 02:55:02 AM 2288 Views
Yep - 01/04/2011 02:57:52 PM 2054 Views
He's not an "author", he's just a stupid troll, do not feed him *NM* - 30/03/2011 02:39:19 PM 1173 Views

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