And the author has read the comments, so I guess they weren't just to the masses.
I'm confused here. I'm certain you don't mean Roberts is allowed the mocking tone, but Sidious is not, simple because RJ cannot read Roberts' comments. Even if that were so, the author's attention was drawn to this comment by you, in a manner that I found less than savory.
I don't seem to recall any discussions of burning people at the stake in any of Roberts' posts. I would say that, mocking or not, that such a comment goes quite a bit beyond satire and toward the sort of comment that some of Terry Goodkind's more deluded fanatics have posted over the years.
As for your opinions on this, well...things do go more than one way.
If your aim was not the fan any fires, posting Roberts views here, and the reader's responses there was hardly the way to go about it. And your characterization of the comments here as repetitive and targeting you in a negative way is condescending. Quite a few people had excellent points regarding the repetitive nature of Roberts' views as well as the absence of the elements of what can be called a good review. You chose to defend him, vigorously at times, because your views are not very different from his.
I don't think "condescending" is the word to use here. When I originally posted this thread, it was to see what discussion might occur out of it, in the now vain hope that it'd be more substantive than what has been produced. So yes, after a while, the circular nature of the arguments on all sides (I didn't exclude myself from that comment, after all) became repetitive and I mostly just posted the links out of habit than anything else.
Its pure hypocrisy that you do so, while at the same time making critical comments about how people have defended RJ here in this post.
No, it's not hypocritical when I've been quite open about my thoughts for months now. After all, why else would I comment inside the blog posts and have links where people here could read it if they so chose? And here's a question to consider: why do some feel as those their (or the dead author's) honor has been besmirched? After all, mocking or not, no one makes comments about imbeciles and burning dissidents at the stake unless there's a wee bit too much attachment to something. It takes the "fan" part and restores the original, somewhat connotation of "fanatic" to me.
Perhaps I'm just too cynical to see the point in all this and should just bow out of such discussions in the future.
Illusions fall like the husk of a fruit, one after another, and the fruit is experience. - Narrator, Sylvie
Je suis méchant.
Je suis méchant.
Author Adam Roberts tackled the WoT.
- 19/03/2010 09:30:25 PM
13228 Views
Heh, While I agree with him about it being derivative, I still encourage people to read it.
- 20/03/2010 02:36:47 AM
2623 Views
My problem with the reviews:
- 20/03/2010 06:29:08 AM
3264 Views
Hear Hear !!!
.......................
=
........................ *NM*
- 20/03/2010 06:37:11 AM
1560 Views
.......................
=
........................ *NM*
- 20/03/2010 06:37:11 AM
1560 Views
well I agree and disagree
- 20/03/2010 06:51:29 AM
2966 Views
Re: well I agree and disagree
- 20/03/2010 02:12:43 PM
2509 Views
I'm amused by some of the responses
- 20/03/2010 07:20:03 PM
2919 Views
Are you suggesting that we are unqualified to disagree with him ?
- 20/03/2010 11:21:44 PM
2633 Views
No, I said rather that it's ridiculous to make such disparaging comments about his takes
- 20/03/2010 11:37:56 PM
2660 Views
I will reply to myself: What's the problem McFly , chicken ?
- 21/03/2010 12:29:36 AM
2460 Views
My sister called me chicken once
- 10/04/2010 01:18:31 AM
2518 Views
Re: I'm amused by some of the responses
- 23/03/2010 04:50:42 PM
2565 Views
And I'm even more amused by this response
- 24/03/2010 01:11:50 AM
2486 Views
- 24/03/2010 01:11:50 AM
2486 Views
On a completely unrelated note...
- 24/03/2010 06:15:25 AM
2386 Views
Ha!
- 24/03/2010 06:34:48 AM
2388 Views
- 24/03/2010 06:34:48 AM
2388 Views
My congratulations then
. *NM*
- 24/03/2010 06:36:11 AM
2321 Views
. *NM*
- 24/03/2010 06:36:11 AM
2321 Views
Wow, you guys have completely missed the point of the Wheel of Time series
- 22/03/2010 05:28:07 PM
2535 Views
- 22/03/2010 05:28:07 PM
2535 Views
There's a point to it?
- 22/03/2010 06:47:12 PM
2520 Views
- 22/03/2010 06:47:12 PM
2520 Views
Yes, RJ has explained it at least a few times and the main sequence of each book invokes his message *NM*
- 24/03/2010 02:09:01 AM
1500 Views
You're not taking me seriously now, are you?
- 24/03/2010 02:54:37 AM
2436 Views
- 24/03/2010 02:54:37 AM
2436 Views
I meant the reason why RJ wrote WoT in the first place
- 24/03/2010 06:39:47 AM
2436 Views
And which, arguably, could be viewed as being done in a hackneyed way
- 24/03/2010 07:15:55 AM
2487 Views
I thought the point was to write about a bunch of stuff happening?
- 09/04/2010 03:42:49 PM
2501 Views
pfft wth-ever
- 26/03/2010 12:35:53 AM
2308 Views
Dude's been up for more awards for his writing than RJ ever was
- 26/03/2010 12:28:19 PM
2569 Views
bla bla bla
- 29/03/2010 06:17:07 AM
2467 Views
Wow. That post was more entertaining than Mr. Roberts' review. Thank you
*NM*
- 29/03/2010 08:23:41 AM
1680 Views
*NM*
- 29/03/2010 08:23:41 AM
1680 Views
You must have low standards for entertainment
- 29/03/2010 08:54:03 AM
2410 Views
Re: You must have low standards for entertainment
- 29/03/2010 09:13:44 AM
2515 Views
I know you were, thus the
at the least of my comment
- 29/03/2010 09:19:30 AM
2336 Views
at the least of my comment
- 29/03/2010 09:19:30 AM
2336 Views
Unimpressed
- 29/03/2010 10:50:07 PM
2813 Views
Isn't that a bit uncharitable, Dom, considering how much you approved of what I did with CoT?
- 30/03/2010 12:03:48 AM
2810 Views
Re: Dude's been up for more awards for his writing than RJ ever was
- 29/03/2010 04:32:23 PM
2527 Views
Might want to re-read their Wikis again.
- 29/03/2010 07:07:11 PM
2355 Views
Awards
- 29/03/2010 07:42:03 PM
2317 Views
That link is out of date
- 29/03/2010 07:54:56 PM
2307 Views
Re: That link is out of date
- 29/03/2010 08:22:03 PM
2452 Views
This is a battle of win/lose?
- 29/03/2010 08:47:54 PM
2343 Views
Re: This is a battle of win/lose?
- 29/03/2010 09:03:07 PM
2383 Views
*considers employing the Chewbacca defense*
- 29/03/2010 09:28:06 PM
2371 Views
Re: *considers employing the Chewbacca defense*
- 29/03/2010 09:44:58 PM
2581 Views
The final point explains the "defense"
- 30/03/2010 12:24:56 AM
2280 Views
Re: The final point explains the "defense"
- 30/03/2010 01:33:04 PM
2237 Views
No, no, no
- 30/03/2010 06:38:41 PM
2304 Views
Re: No, no, no
- 30/03/2010 07:51:34 PM
2411 Views
Still continuing, huh?
- 31/03/2010 02:10:13 AM
2363 Views
Re: Still continuing, huh?
- 31/03/2010 03:56:57 PM
2330 Views
He's now reviewed the third book
- 26/03/2010 12:27:16 PM
2564 Views
Well, this time I must disagree with him
.
- 29/03/2010 07:31:40 AM
2277 Views
.
- 29/03/2010 07:31:40 AM
2277 Views
I don't think he was claiming that RJ was alone in doing that
- 29/03/2010 07:44:07 AM
2283 Views
Hah!
- 29/03/2010 06:07:28 PM
2296 Views
Well...
- 29/03/2010 06:52:10 PM
2207 Views
Differing perspectives, I guess.
- 29/03/2010 07:58:13 PM
2403 Views
I suppose
- 29/03/2010 08:50:43 PM
2310 Views
Re: I suppose
- 30/03/2010 12:18:30 AM
2449 Views
Hey, DomA, do you know why the Shienarans randomly speak in the Old Tongue?
- 30/03/2010 12:52:01 AM
2282 Views
Re: Hey, DomA, do you know why the Shienarans randomly speak in the Old Tongue?
- 30/03/2010 07:45:08 AM
2471 Views
But why only them?
- 30/03/2010 08:07:00 AM
2367 Views
The Shadow Rising review
- 02/04/2010 09:42:53 AM
2553 Views
I wonder if this borders on trolling
- 02/04/2010 02:29:58 PM
11099 Views
That would be a mistake
- 02/04/2010 09:16:25 PM
2567 Views
Re: That would be a mistake
- 02/04/2010 10:28:56 PM
2327 Views
I agree, Roberts is more and more coming across to me as just bitter
- 10/04/2010 01:24:52 AM
2434 Views
Little late to this one as well
- 10/04/2010 11:12:04 AM
2462 Views
Perhaps you should have led with this bit
- 10/04/2010 02:52:23 PM
2550 Views
I guess I just presumed that people would read the header to his blog
- 12/04/2010 03:54:10 AM
2368 Views
- 12/04/2010 03:54:10 AM
2368 Views
What review? I couldn't find one...
- 02/04/2010 08:00:45 PM
2520 Views
Re: What review? I couldn't find one...
- 02/04/2010 09:22:13 PM
2524 Views
See my comment below
- 02/04/2010 09:32:54 PM
2594 Views
Re: See my comment below
- 03/04/2010 09:31:22 AM
2922 Views
Sorry I'm late in responding, but I've been quite busy this week
- 07/04/2010 09:45:48 PM
2787 Views
Speaking of irritation
- 02/04/2010 10:50:04 PM
2488 Views
To be fair, even among the RaFOers there have been tons of posts that missed certain events
- 09/04/2010 03:47:30 PM
2364 Views
Commentary, then?
- 02/04/2010 09:27:18 PM
2365 Views
- 02/04/2010 09:27:18 PM
2365 Views
Here's the thing...
- 02/04/2010 10:11:18 PM
2320 Views
Re: Here's the thing...
- 02/04/2010 10:31:56 PM
2157 Views
Re: Commentary, then?
- 05/04/2010 03:44:07 PM
2275 Views
- 05/04/2010 03:44:07 PM
2275 Views
for a man that bitterly complains about an author who is padding his work
- 08/04/2010 09:41:07 PM
2496 Views
1400 words is long-winded?
- 09/04/2010 10:07:41 AM
2540 Views
- 09/04/2010 10:07:41 AM
2540 Views
since you can sum up those 1400 words in about 25 yes that's longwinded
- 09/04/2010 01:36:16 PM
2413 Views
Except I didn't really sum it up, as I left out quite a bit
- 10/04/2010 11:15:42 AM
2440 Views
You are very defensive over this
- 10/04/2010 01:54:15 PM
2244 Views
Nah, more of a devil's advocate than anything else
- 12/04/2010 03:57:12 AM
2302 Views
Well Larry I have started reading Gradsil by Adam Roberts
- 07/04/2010 08:59:28 PM
2473 Views
I demand a paragraph by paragraph review, with footnotes!
- 07/04/2010 09:50:39 PM
2353 Views
Re: I demand a paragraph by paragraph review, with footnotes!
- 08/04/2010 01:06:20 PM
2214 Views
Which Invisible Man?
- 09/04/2010 09:58:44 AM
2436 Views
He brings up some interesting points, if in an unnecessarily rude manner
- 08/04/2010 12:42:25 PM
2365 Views
To be honest, I doubt most readers of the series obsess over it that much
- 09/04/2010 10:05:49 AM
2371 Views
- 09/04/2010 10:05:49 AM
2371 Views
Re: To be honest, I doubt most readers of the series obsess over it that much
- 09/04/2010 01:28:17 PM
2900 Views
- 09/04/2010 01:28:17 PM
2900 Views
Re: To be honest, I doubt most readers of the series obsess over it that much
- 10/04/2010 11:40:22 AM
2377 Views
- 10/04/2010 11:40:22 AM
2377 Views
why are you so bothered by people being unimpressed with Roberts?
- 10/04/2010 02:19:08 PM
2376 Views
Not bothered as much as I am bemused by the ad hominems, to be honest
- 12/04/2010 04:11:12 AM
2698 Views
And in vol. 5, Roberts discovers the horrors of the circus
- 09/04/2010 09:57:03 AM
2358 Views
Basically he just states the "nothing happens"-argument...
- 09/04/2010 03:26:02 PM
2253 Views
Well, what was really resolved here?
- 10/04/2010 11:25:25 AM
2340 Views
Well...
- 12/04/2010 05:05:20 PM
2464 Views
So very little was resolved and much was set into motion, then?
- 12/04/2010 06:55:45 PM
2420 Views
Yes...
- 12/04/2010 10:51:08 PM
2158 Views
Ever read Umberto Eco's How To Travel with a Salmon?
- 12/04/2010 11:07:19 PM
2488 Views
I guess...
- 13/04/2010 10:03:03 AM
2468 Views
Sounds like you value prolixity for the sake of prolixity, to be honest
- 13/04/2010 04:41:07 PM
3609 Views
Nah...
- 13/04/2010 05:29:34 PM
2169 Views
He's read and enjoyed Proust, among others
- 13/04/2010 07:37:39 PM
2276 Views
Ah, well...
- 13/04/2010 09:45:45 PM
2212 Views
Dismissive, much?
- 13/04/2010 10:52:30 PM
2398 Views
- 13/04/2010 10:52:30 PM
2398 Views
About that bifurcation...
- 14/04/2010 02:02:15 AM
2369 Views
Sorry that I was busy yesterday and didn't have a chance to reply until now
- 15/04/2010 01:46:54 PM
2483 Views
I'm sorry, but he's totally right. "The Circus" made me put down this series for 5 YEARS.
- 09/04/2010 03:38:16 PM
2372 Views
Lord of Chaos commentary
- 16/04/2010 03:39:39 PM
2339 Views
No no. It was Lord of Heaven!
- 16/04/2010 05:51:11 PM
2234 Views
Yeah, I noticed that
- 16/04/2010 11:16:26 PM
2151 Views
- 16/04/2010 11:16:26 PM
2151 Views
I would love the see him review Goodkind...
- 16/04/2010 11:51:07 PM
2378 Views
I don't wish that on anyone who doesn't have copious amounts of alcohol
- 16/04/2010 11:57:41 PM
2275 Views
A Crown of Swords - or is it deco-porn?
- 23/04/2010 08:36:17 AM
2404 Views
Re: A Crown of Swords - or is it deco-porn?
- 29/04/2010 06:02:28 PM
2346 Views
I disagree
- 29/04/2010 09:34:49 PM
2174 Views
The Path of Daggers commentary
- 07/05/2010 10:39:03 AM
2495 Views
Winter's Heart
- 21/05/2010 12:46:14 PM
2472 Views
I think WH was my least favorite of the WoT novels I re-read
- 21/05/2010 04:49:31 PM
2327 Views
Re: I think WH was my least favorite of the WoT novels I re-read
- 25/05/2010 05:05:09 PM
2476 Views
WH was my least favorite novel in the series, and that is saying a lot.
- 28/05/2010 03:15:13 PM
2319 Views
I completely agree with his KoD post. Here is my favorite quote:
- 28/05/2010 03:08:31 PM
2644 Views
Roberts reflects back on WoT 1-11, with answers to questions asked of him
- 25/06/2010 12:51:29 PM
2448 Views
This guy should be burned at the stake
- 25/06/2010 03:22:34 PM
9921 Views
Are you done making a fool out of yourself, Mark?
- 26/06/2010 06:53:37 PM
2378 Views
Oh come on...
- 26/06/2010 09:06:01 PM
2451 Views
Well, the burning at the stake was a bit much...
- 26/06/2010 10:19:40 PM
2452 Views
Well, really! You brought the comment to his notice...
- 26/06/2010 11:34:08 PM
2449 Views
And your point is...?
- 27/06/2010 12:37:00 AM
2467 Views
Well...
- 27/06/2010 05:38:12 AM
2418 Views
Indeed... I think it's rather clear that Larry's goal has been to cause trouble
- 27/06/2010 10:57:36 AM
2592 Views
It's not about honour being beschmirched. It's about poor quality arguments. *NM*
- 30/03/2011 04:09:23 PM
1361 Views
One year later...
- 27/03/2011 03:40:29 AM
2280 Views
Re: One year later...
- 28/03/2011 05:03:32 PM
2517 Views
I see you subconsciously support critical takes.
- 28/03/2011 11:41:48 PM
2516 Views
No I conciously support telling you and him that you are pathetic, arrogent, & jelous. *NM*
- 30/03/2011 01:40:36 PM
1410 Views
Jealous?
- 30/03/2011 05:20:32 PM
2290 Views
You both are jelous of Jordan's tremendous succes.
- 30/03/2011 10:27:36 PM
2301 Views
Please learn how to spell the word "jealous" before tossing it about in the cavalier fashion you do
- 30/03/2011 10:54:36 PM
2334 Views
The fact that you teach is supposed to be a surprise?
- 31/03/2011 01:23:45 PM
2249 Views
After reading the standard-issue checklist of generic, tossabout pejoratives...
- 01/04/2011 03:06:18 PM
2408 Views
I agree, I didn't even notice it was an old post, definitely did not deserve to be revived. *NM*
- 30/03/2011 02:41:12 PM
1321 Views
Now I notice as well that this is a year old. You're very silly, Larry, very silly. *NM*
- 30/03/2011 04:13:38 PM
1443 Views
Yep!
- 30/03/2011 05:16:38 PM
2227 Views
- 30/03/2011 05:16:38 PM
2227 Views
He's not an "author", he's just a stupid troll, do not feed him *NM*
- 30/03/2011 02:39:19 PM
1333 Views

