Active Users:598 Time:21/12/2025 10:36:00 PM
Nah... Etzel Send a noteboard - 13/04/2010 05:29:34 PM
I also like to read stand-alone novels or shorter series. My point is that if the plot, the characters & the world interest me, I'm not scared of reading such a monster series, even if one has to deal with some slower parts, has to keep lots of plot-lines, characters, etc., in mind, and be rather patient for the resolutions.

On the other hand, I would argue that simply the length of a series like WoT is wearing Roberts down, especially if he normally reads shorter works with less details, perhaps has a shorter attention span and might be easily bored (as you said, he e.g. probably didn't even realize what the damn point of the plot in TFoH is). This is supported by Roberts' "reviews", which in my view become more and more sketchy, mediocre and contain mistakes, probably because he is only able to read the books very superficially. If he would devote just a bit more time to really read the books, he might eventually see some worth in WoT (and e.g. maybe even get why the 5th book is called "The Fires of Heaven"..). Of course, Roberts actually doesn't want to give WoT this chance, so his "reviews" might be mildly amusing in some parts, but overall they are pointless.
Reply to message
Author Adam Roberts tackled the WoT. - 19/03/2010 09:30:25 PM 13320 Views
A question for Larry - 19/03/2010 09:40:37 PM 3358 Views
Roberto BolaƱo - 19/03/2010 11:09:57 PM 3254 Views
I completely agree with his review. - 19/03/2010 11:11:17 PM 3308 Views
Ouch! Somebody pull that guy off RJ! *NM* - 20/03/2010 03:47:07 AM 1645 Views
Can't say that I really disagree. - 20/03/2010 05:19:26 AM 2614 Views
My problem with the reviews: - 20/03/2010 06:29:08 AM 3302 Views
Hear Hear !!! ....................... = ........................ *NM* - 20/03/2010 06:37:11 AM 1580 Views
I agree - 20/03/2010 11:19:29 AM 2756 Views
You know what else I'm finding annoying? - 07/04/2010 07:29:37 AM 2641 Views
Fully Agree *NM* - 21/06/2010 12:41:05 AM 1436 Views
well I agree and disagree - 20/03/2010 06:51:29 AM 3000 Views
Re: well I agree and disagree - 20/03/2010 02:12:43 PM 2545 Views
I'd say just The Eye of the World - 20/03/2010 05:26:19 PM 2632 Views
Indeed - 21/03/2010 12:34:19 AM 2514 Views
These reviews are pathetic - 20/03/2010 12:52:22 PM 2524 Views
I'm amused by some of the responses - 20/03/2010 07:20:03 PM 2965 Views
+1 *NM* - 20/03/2010 10:48:14 PM 1779 Views
Are you suggesting that we are unqualified to disagree with him ? - 20/03/2010 11:21:44 PM 2668 Views
No, I said rather that it's ridiculous to make such disparaging comments about his takes - 20/03/2010 11:37:56 PM 2709 Views
I considered doing so - 21/03/2010 12:27:27 AM 2550 Views
I will reply to myself: What's the problem McFly , chicken ? - 21/03/2010 12:29:36 AM 2504 Views
My sister called me chicken once - 10/04/2010 01:18:31 AM 2572 Views
what's wrong runt... are you yellah? *NM* - 10/04/2010 10:40:16 AM 1522 Views
NICE! *NM* - 10/04/2010 02:19:44 PM 1374 Views
Re: I'm amused by some of the responses - 23/03/2010 04:50:42 PM 2606 Views
And I'm even more amused by this response - 24/03/2010 01:11:50 AM 2538 Views
Re: And I'm even more amused by this response - 24/03/2010 03:03:28 AM 2409 Views
Nah, TGS was the only serious review of the series I've done - 24/03/2010 04:31:28 AM 2493 Views
On a completely unrelated note... - 24/03/2010 06:15:25 AM 2464 Views
Ha! - 24/03/2010 06:34:48 AM 2436 Views
My congratulations then . *NM* - 24/03/2010 06:36:11 AM 2369 Views
You say it as if I had been condemned to hell! - 24/03/2010 07:13:45 AM 2272 Views
No. Well, maybe. - 24/03/2010 06:52:28 PM 2438 Views
! - 24/03/2010 06:54:34 PM 2470 Views
Re: Author Adam Roberts tackled the WoT. - 22/03/2010 02:47:23 PM 2611 Views
Re: Author Adam Roberts tackled the WoT. - 23/03/2010 01:53:16 PM 2532 Views
Wow, you guys have completely missed the point of the Wheel of Time series - 22/03/2010 05:28:07 PM 2581 Views
There's a point to it? - 22/03/2010 06:47:12 PM 2565 Views
Yes, RJ has explained it at least a few times and the main sequence of each book invokes his message *NM* - 24/03/2010 02:09:01 AM 1525 Views
You're not taking me seriously now, are you? - 24/03/2010 02:54:37 AM 2476 Views
I meant the reason why RJ wrote WoT in the first place - 24/03/2010 06:39:47 AM 2477 Views
I thought the point was to write about a bunch of stuff happening? - 09/04/2010 03:42:49 PM 2537 Views
Re: Author Adam Roberts tackled the WoT. - 23/03/2010 04:54:38 PM 2523 Views
pfft wth-ever - 26/03/2010 12:35:53 AM 2348 Views
Dude's been up for more awards for his writing than RJ ever was - 26/03/2010 12:28:19 PM 2615 Views
bla bla bla - 29/03/2010 06:17:07 AM 2511 Views
Usually, it's spelled "blah" - 29/03/2010 07:03:51 AM 2458 Views
Wow. That post was more entertaining than Mr. Roberts' review. Thank you *NM* - 29/03/2010 08:23:41 AM 1699 Views
You must have low standards for entertainment - 29/03/2010 08:54:03 AM 2452 Views
Re: You must have low standards for entertainment - 29/03/2010 09:13:44 AM 2561 Views
I know you were, thus the at the least of my comment - 29/03/2010 09:19:30 AM 2374 Views
Unimpressed - 29/03/2010 10:50:07 PM 2853 Views
Thank you - 30/03/2010 12:35:39 AM 2286 Views
*Standing ovation for DomA* - 30/03/2010 07:36:59 AM 2565 Views
Yes. Also, Roberts is a wanker. *NM* - 05/04/2010 09:28:57 PM 1530 Views
Re: Dude's been up for more awards for his writing than RJ ever was - 29/03/2010 04:32:23 PM 2577 Views
Might want to re-read their Wikis again. - 29/03/2010 07:07:11 PM 2409 Views
Awards - 29/03/2010 07:42:03 PM 2360 Views
That link is out of date - 29/03/2010 07:54:56 PM 2343 Views
Re: That link is out of date - 29/03/2010 08:22:03 PM 2503 Views
This is a battle of win/lose? - 29/03/2010 08:47:54 PM 2372 Views
Re: This is a battle of win/lose? - 29/03/2010 09:03:07 PM 2424 Views
*considers employing the Chewbacca defense* - 29/03/2010 09:28:06 PM 2417 Views
Re: *considers employing the Chewbacca defense* - 29/03/2010 09:44:58 PM 2610 Views
The final point explains the "defense" - 30/03/2010 12:24:56 AM 2333 Views
Re: The final point explains the "defense" - 30/03/2010 01:33:04 PM 2272 Views
No, no, no - 30/03/2010 06:38:41 PM 2353 Views
Re: No, no, no - 30/03/2010 07:51:34 PM 2452 Views
Still continuing, huh? - 31/03/2010 02:10:13 AM 2393 Views
Re: Still continuing, huh? - 31/03/2010 03:56:57 PM 2375 Views
Those were polls - 31/03/2010 08:46:07 PM 2390 Views
Re: Those were polls - 05/04/2010 03:22:13 PM 2321 Views
Does it gives him right to insult me? - 13/04/2011 02:10:32 PM 2370 Views
I wouldn't know. Was he speaking directly to you? - 14/04/2011 11:28:16 PM 2479 Views
He's now reviewed the third book - 26/03/2010 12:27:16 PM 2595 Views
Well, this time I must disagree with him . - 29/03/2010 07:31:40 AM 2308 Views
I don't think he was claiming that RJ was alone in doing that - 29/03/2010 07:44:07 AM 2322 Views
Hah! - 29/03/2010 06:07:28 PM 2335 Views
Well... - 29/03/2010 06:52:10 PM 2254 Views
Differing perspectives, I guess. - 29/03/2010 07:58:13 PM 2444 Views
I suppose - 29/03/2010 08:50:43 PM 2348 Views
Re: I suppose - 30/03/2010 12:18:30 AM 2479 Views
True - 30/03/2010 12:23:28 AM 2332 Views
Hey, DomA, do you know why the Shienarans randomly speak in the Old Tongue? - 30/03/2010 12:52:01 AM 2326 Views
Re: Hey, DomA, do you know why the Shienarans randomly speak in the Old Tongue? - 30/03/2010 07:45:08 AM 2509 Views
But why only them? - 30/03/2010 08:07:00 AM 2410 Views
Re: But why only them? - 30/03/2010 03:56:54 PM 2385 Views
Re: But why only them? - 30/03/2010 08:29:37 PM 2478 Views
I really liked a lot of the minor characters in The Great Hunt. - 30/03/2010 12:49:03 AM 2365 Views
I barely thought twice about those, to be honest - 30/03/2010 06:39:55 PM 2394 Views
I can't wait what he's going to try to do with TFoH and beyond - 28/03/2010 08:18:59 PM 2476 Views
Glad you enjoyed it - 29/03/2010 09:33:43 PM 2331 Views
The Shadow Rising review - 02/04/2010 09:42:53 AM 2604 Views
I wonder if this borders on trolling - 02/04/2010 02:29:58 PM 11145 Views
You want complaining? You got it... - 02/04/2010 06:38:09 PM 2475 Views
That would be a mistake - 02/04/2010 09:16:25 PM 2622 Views
Re: That would be a mistake - 02/04/2010 10:28:56 PM 2370 Views
I agree, Roberts is more and more coming across to me as just bitter - 10/04/2010 01:24:52 AM 2482 Views
Little late to this one as well - 10/04/2010 11:12:04 AM 2495 Views
Perhaps you should have led with this bit - 10/04/2010 02:52:23 PM 2596 Views
Re: I wonder if this borders on trolling - 04/04/2010 09:16:22 AM 2470 Views
What review? I couldn't find one... - 02/04/2010 08:00:45 PM 2556 Views
Re: What review? I couldn't find one... - 02/04/2010 09:22:13 PM 2569 Views
See my comment below - 02/04/2010 09:32:54 PM 2636 Views
Re: See my comment below - 03/04/2010 09:31:22 AM 2970 Views
Sorry I'm late in responding, but I've been quite busy this week - 07/04/2010 09:45:48 PM 2826 Views
Yes, I can probably agree with what you say here. - 08/04/2010 12:29:16 AM 2284 Views
- 08/04/2010 12:32:53 AM 2428 Views
I agree completely. *NM* - 02/04/2010 09:53:44 PM 1419 Views
Speaking of irritation - 02/04/2010 10:50:04 PM 2526 Views
Commentary, then? - 02/04/2010 09:27:18 PM 2411 Views
Here's the thing... - 02/04/2010 10:11:18 PM 2354 Views
Re: Here's the thing... - 02/04/2010 10:31:56 PM 2206 Views
Re: Here's the thing... - 03/04/2010 01:34:05 AM 2259 Views
I somehow overlooked this last week, it seems - 10/04/2010 11:01:17 AM 2554 Views
Indeed - 02/04/2010 10:34:00 PM 2257 Views
Re: Commentary, then? - 05/04/2010 03:44:07 PM 2319 Views
for a man that bitterly complains about an author who is padding his work - 08/04/2010 09:41:07 PM 2546 Views
1400 words is long-winded? - 09/04/2010 10:07:41 AM 2578 Views
since you can sum up those 1400 words in about 25 yes that's longwinded - 09/04/2010 01:36:16 PM 2460 Views
Except I didn't really sum it up, as I left out quite a bit - 10/04/2010 11:15:42 AM 2482 Views
You are very defensive over this - 10/04/2010 01:54:15 PM 2284 Views
Nah, more of a devil's advocate than anything else - 12/04/2010 03:57:12 AM 2345 Views
Re: Nah, more of a devil's advocate than anything else - 12/04/2010 05:30:53 PM 2265 Views
You sound like a Goodkind webmaster from a couple of years ago - 12/04/2010 06:58:42 PM 2358 Views
You don't come across as a devil's advocate - 30/03/2011 03:07:32 PM 2382 Views
Well Larry I have started reading Gradsil by Adam Roberts - 07/04/2010 08:59:28 PM 2507 Views
I demand a paragraph by paragraph review, with footnotes! - 07/04/2010 09:50:39 PM 2400 Views
Re: I demand a paragraph by paragraph review, with footnotes! - 08/04/2010 01:06:20 PM 2258 Views
Which Invisible Man? - 09/04/2010 09:58:44 AM 2467 Views
Re: Which Invisible Man? - 09/04/2010 01:26:42 PM 2484 Views
I have a very different take on that book - 10/04/2010 11:17:13 AM 2350 Views
Re: I demand a paragraph by paragraph review, with footnotes! - 09/04/2010 01:45:44 PM 2380 Views
Hrmm... - 10/04/2010 11:19:01 AM 2225 Views
Re: Well Larry I have started reading Gradsil by Adam Roberts - 12/04/2010 05:37:36 PM 2452 Views
He brings up some interesting points, if in an unnecessarily rude manner - 08/04/2010 12:42:25 PM 2400 Views
To be honest, I doubt most readers of the series obsess over it that much - 09/04/2010 10:05:49 AM 2405 Views
Re: To be honest, I doubt most readers of the series obsess over it that much - 09/04/2010 01:28:17 PM 2944 Views
Re: To be honest, I doubt most readers of the series obsess over it that much - 10/04/2010 11:40:22 AM 2412 Views
why are you so bothered by people being unimpressed with Roberts? - 10/04/2010 02:19:08 PM 2411 Views
I don't understand it either - 11/04/2010 12:44:25 PM 2395 Views
right? - 11/04/2010 02:13:00 PM 2423 Views
Nah - 12/04/2010 04:13:44 AM 2244 Views
And in vol. 5, Roberts discovers the horrors of the circus - 09/04/2010 09:57:03 AM 2402 Views
5 reviews without saying more than "I hate the series" - 09/04/2010 01:31:13 PM 2256 Views
Basically he just states the "nothing happens"-argument... - 09/04/2010 03:26:02 PM 2293 Views
Well, what was really resolved here? - 10/04/2010 11:25:25 AM 2386 Views
Well... - 12/04/2010 05:05:20 PM 2504 Views
well exactly - 12/04/2010 05:33:11 PM 2496 Views
So very little was resolved and much was set into motion, then? - 12/04/2010 06:55:45 PM 2474 Views
Yes... - 12/04/2010 10:51:08 PM 2190 Views
Ever read Umberto Eco's How To Travel with a Salmon? - 12/04/2010 11:07:19 PM 2527 Views
I guess... - 13/04/2010 10:03:03 AM 2525 Views
Sounds like you value prolixity for the sake of prolixity, to be honest - 13/04/2010 04:41:07 PM 3640 Views
Nah... - 13/04/2010 05:29:34 PM 2209 Views
He's read and enjoyed Proust, among others - 13/04/2010 07:37:39 PM 2328 Views
Ah, well... - 13/04/2010 09:45:45 PM 2243 Views
Dismissive, much? - 13/04/2010 10:52:30 PM 2437 Views
About that bifurcation... - 14/04/2010 02:02:15 AM 2403 Views
I'm rather moderate - 14/04/2010 10:11:30 AM 2297 Views
I'm just a liberation theologist at heart - 15/04/2010 01:51:16 PM 3198 Views
So, if you don't mind... - 13/04/2010 05:51:06 AM 2435 Views
That's fine with me - 13/04/2010 06:31:41 AM 2390 Views
I'm sorry, but he's totally right. "The Circus" made me put down this series for 5 YEARS. - 09/04/2010 03:38:16 PM 2409 Views
I didn't find it quite that bad, but... - 11/04/2010 08:27:52 AM 2394 Views
LoC represented a sharp drop in quality!!? - 19/05/2010 03:27:21 PM 2399 Views
And ignores everything else... - 09/04/2010 05:10:00 PM 2491 Views
Inchoatus went offline a couple of years ago - 10/04/2010 11:42:26 AM 3324 Views
This guy is going to get what he deserves... - 09/04/2010 10:26:14 PM 2363 Views
I'm waiting with bated breath for his CoT review *NM* - 10/04/2010 01:00:59 PM 1487 Views
Just wanted to point out that he is not reviewing the series. - 16/04/2010 04:04:49 PM 2305 Views
Lord of Chaos commentary - 16/04/2010 03:39:39 PM 2386 Views
He has reached - The Hump. - 16/04/2010 03:55:51 PM 2327 Views
Re: He has reached - The Hump. - 18/04/2010 08:08:59 AM 2774 Views
No no. It was Lord of Heaven! - 16/04/2010 05:51:11 PM 2266 Views
Yeah, I noticed that - 16/04/2010 11:16:26 PM 2199 Views
I would love the see him review Goodkind... - 16/04/2010 11:51:07 PM 2425 Views
Finally re-read that post - 20/04/2010 09:35:45 PM 2393 Views
The magic items are mostly irrelevant... - 21/04/2010 03:37:36 AM 2364 Views
A Crown of Swords - or is it deco-porn? - 23/04/2010 08:36:17 AM 2443 Views
Re: A Crown of Swords - or is it deco-porn? - 29/04/2010 06:02:28 PM 2389 Views
I disagree - 29/04/2010 09:34:49 PM 2218 Views
I agree. - 29/04/2010 09:45:29 PM 2433 Views
Took me a moment to realize with whom you were agreeing - 29/04/2010 10:19:05 PM 2358 Views
Well, I did mention the necklines get overdone... - 06/05/2010 06:17:46 PM 2668 Views
Well, there's now also the tea to comment about - 07/05/2010 11:29:03 AM 2454 Views
A bit of a stumble this week - 30/04/2010 01:53:31 PM 2472 Views
The Path of Daggers commentary - 07/05/2010 10:39:03 AM 2538 Views
You'd think a Brit would like the tea... *NM* - 11/05/2010 04:05:42 PM 1361 Views
Maybe he's just a contrarian? - 11/05/2010 07:55:43 PM 2275 Views
Winter's Heart - 21/05/2010 12:46:14 PM 2514 Views
To be fair - 21/05/2010 01:56:49 PM 2620 Views
I think WH was my least favorite of the WoT novels I re-read - 21/05/2010 04:49:31 PM 2378 Views
Re: I think WH was my least favorite of the WoT novels I re-read - 25/05/2010 05:05:09 PM 2521 Views
WH was my least favorite novel in the series, and that is saying a lot. - 28/05/2010 03:15:13 PM 2364 Views
I completely agree with his KoD post. Here is my favorite quote: - 28/05/2010 03:08:31 PM 2689 Views
CoT, you mean (link to actual post included) - 28/05/2010 04:56:10 PM 2509 Views
Yep, I meant COT. *NM* - 28/05/2010 07:02:48 PM 1354 Views
Knife of Dreams - 18/06/2010 09:07:27 AM 2415 Views
Re: Knife of Dreams - 19/06/2010 05:49:38 AM 2472 Views
Agree... - 19/06/2010 05:08:44 PM 2421 Views
Roberts reflects back on WoT 1-11, with answers to questions asked of him - 25/06/2010 12:51:29 PM 2506 Views
This guy should be burned at the stake - 25/06/2010 03:22:34 PM 9970 Views
Are you done making a fool out of yourself, Mark? - 26/06/2010 06:53:37 PM 2419 Views
Oh come on... - 26/06/2010 09:06:01 PM 2486 Views
Well, the burning at the stake was a bit much... - 26/06/2010 10:19:40 PM 2486 Views
Well, really! You brought the comment to his notice... - 26/06/2010 11:34:08 PM 2487 Views
And your point is...? - 27/06/2010 12:37:00 AM 2511 Views
Well... - 27/06/2010 05:38:12 AM 2456 Views
Indeed... I think it's rather clear that Larry's goal has been to cause trouble - 27/06/2010 10:57:36 AM 2632 Views
There is no "borderline" about it. - 28/03/2011 05:17:15 PM 2307 Views
Ridiculous - 27/06/2010 06:38:46 AM 2365 Views
I like his FAQ and his overall musings on its' popularity. - 29/06/2010 06:35:10 PM 2381 Views
One year later... - 27/03/2011 03:40:29 AM 2313 Views
Re: One year later... - 28/03/2011 05:03:32 PM 2558 Views
I see you subconsciously support critical takes. - 28/03/2011 11:41:48 PM 2553 Views
No I conciously support telling you and him that you are pathetic, arrogent, & jelous. *NM* - 30/03/2011 01:40:36 PM 1426 Views
Jealous? - 30/03/2011 05:20:32 PM 2340 Views
I agree, I didn't even notice it was an old post, definitely did not deserve to be revived. *NM* - 30/03/2011 02:41:12 PM 1338 Views
Seconded. - 30/03/2011 04:04:36 PM 2298 Views
Now I notice as well that this is a year old. You're very silly, Larry, very silly. *NM* - 30/03/2011 04:13:38 PM 1462 Views
Yep! - 30/03/2011 05:16:38 PM 2275 Views
Jeez Larry, you're starting to sound like a GRRM detractor. - 31/03/2011 03:01:38 PM 2453 Views
Nah, no detractor - 01/04/2011 03:00:41 PM 2450 Views
Could a thread be locked? - 31/03/2011 07:48:26 PM 2349 Views
Re: One year later... - 01/04/2011 02:55:02 AM 2724 Views
Yep - 01/04/2011 02:57:52 PM 2471 Views
He's not an "author", he's just a stupid troll, do not feed him *NM* - 30/03/2011 02:39:19 PM 1350 Views

Reply to Message