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That would be a mistake Larry Send a noteboard - 02/04/2010 09:16:25 PM

The author has made it clear he doesn't like the series. Should we subject our board to twelve highly negative reviews? The more I read his reviews, the more it's apparent that he's decided from the onset to tear the series to piece. There's no positive to the negative, and some of his criticisms are completely absurd.

I'm kind of hoping that lots of people complain about this thread so that I can lock it.


First, I've kept this all in this one post.

Second, there are some valid points contained within here. Do you want to shut down any discussion of his points just because you disagree with them?

Third, what are the "absurd" points? I think that might make for an interesting counterpoint discussion here.

Fourth, why would you "hope" that, Mark? Do you want me to stop posting about a different viewpoint to this series that another author is presenting elsewhere? Because I suppose I could blog about it and get a wider range of opinions from fans and non-fans alike than if there is a desire from the leadership here for there to be nothing but condemnation here.
Illusions fall like the husk of a fruit, one after another, and the fruit is experience. - Narrator, Sylvie

Je suis méchant.
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Author Adam Roberts tackled the WoT. - 19/03/2010 09:30:25 PM 9868 Views
A question for Larry - 19/03/2010 09:40:37 PM 2047 Views
Roberto Bolaño - 19/03/2010 11:09:57 PM 1815 Views
I completely agree with his review. - 19/03/2010 11:11:17 PM 1981 Views
Ouch! Somebody pull that guy off RJ! *NM* - 20/03/2010 03:47:07 AM 879 Views
Can't say that I really disagree. - 20/03/2010 05:19:26 AM 1365 Views
My problem with the reviews: - 20/03/2010 06:29:08 AM 1911 Views
Hear Hear !!! ....................... = ........................ *NM* - 20/03/2010 06:37:11 AM 854 Views
I agree - 20/03/2010 11:19:29 AM 1438 Views
You know what else I'm finding annoying? - 07/04/2010 07:29:37 AM 1377 Views
Fully Agree *NM* - 21/06/2010 12:41:05 AM 745 Views
well I agree and disagree - 20/03/2010 06:51:29 AM 1725 Views
Re: well I agree and disagree - 20/03/2010 02:12:43 PM 1273 Views
I'd say just The Eye of the World - 20/03/2010 05:26:19 PM 1265 Views
Indeed - 21/03/2010 12:34:19 AM 1279 Views
These reviews are pathetic - 20/03/2010 12:52:22 PM 1265 Views
I'm amused by some of the responses - 20/03/2010 07:20:03 PM 1619 Views
+1 *NM* - 20/03/2010 10:48:14 PM 839 Views
Are you suggesting that we are unqualified to disagree with him ? - 20/03/2010 11:21:44 PM 1436 Views
No, I said rather that it's ridiculous to make such disparaging comments about his takes - 20/03/2010 11:37:56 PM 1471 Views
I considered doing so - 21/03/2010 12:27:27 AM 1258 Views
I will reply to myself: What's the problem McFly , chicken ? - 21/03/2010 12:29:36 AM 1212 Views
My sister called me chicken once - 10/04/2010 01:18:31 AM 1258 Views
what's wrong runt... are you yellah? *NM* - 10/04/2010 10:40:16 AM 839 Views
NICE! *NM* - 10/04/2010 02:19:44 PM 696 Views
Re: I'm amused by some of the responses - 23/03/2010 04:50:42 PM 1353 Views
And I'm even more amused by this response - 24/03/2010 01:11:50 AM 1277 Views
Re: And I'm even more amused by this response - 24/03/2010 03:03:28 AM 1161 Views
Nah, TGS was the only serious review of the series I've done - 24/03/2010 04:31:28 AM 1199 Views
On a completely unrelated note... - 24/03/2010 06:15:25 AM 1066 Views
Ha! - 24/03/2010 06:34:48 AM 1220 Views
My congratulations then . *NM* - 24/03/2010 06:36:11 AM 1112 Views
You say it as if I had been condemned to hell! - 24/03/2010 07:13:45 AM 1036 Views
No. Well, maybe. - 24/03/2010 06:52:28 PM 1121 Views
! - 24/03/2010 06:54:34 PM 1176 Views
Re: Author Adam Roberts tackled the WoT. - 22/03/2010 02:47:23 PM 1233 Views
Re: Author Adam Roberts tackled the WoT. - 23/03/2010 01:53:16 PM 1242 Views
Wow, you guys have completely missed the point of the Wheel of Time series - 22/03/2010 05:28:07 PM 1296 Views
There's a point to it? - 22/03/2010 06:47:12 PM 1292 Views
I thought the point was to write about a bunch of stuff happening? - 09/04/2010 03:42:49 PM 1280 Views
Re: Author Adam Roberts tackled the WoT. - 23/03/2010 04:54:38 PM 1212 Views
pfft wth-ever - 26/03/2010 12:35:53 AM 1082 Views
Dude's been up for more awards for his writing than RJ ever was - 26/03/2010 12:28:19 PM 1319 Views
bla bla bla - 29/03/2010 06:17:07 AM 1188 Views
Usually, it's spelled "blah" - 29/03/2010 07:03:51 AM 1212 Views
Wow. That post was more entertaining than Mr. Roberts' review. Thank you *NM* - 29/03/2010 08:23:41 AM 1042 Views
You must have low standards for entertainment - 29/03/2010 08:54:03 AM 1173 Views
Re: You must have low standards for entertainment - 29/03/2010 09:13:44 AM 1285 Views
I know you were, thus the at the least of my comment - 29/03/2010 09:19:30 AM 1172 Views
Unimpressed - 29/03/2010 10:50:07 PM 1530 Views
Thank you - 30/03/2010 12:35:39 AM 1110 Views
*Standing ovation for DomA* - 30/03/2010 07:36:59 AM 1305 Views
Yes. Also, Roberts is a wanker. *NM* - 05/04/2010 09:28:57 PM 859 Views
Re: Dude's been up for more awards for his writing than RJ ever was - 29/03/2010 04:32:23 PM 1278 Views
Might want to re-read their Wikis again. - 29/03/2010 07:07:11 PM 1173 Views
Awards - 29/03/2010 07:42:03 PM 1152 Views
That link is out of date - 29/03/2010 07:54:56 PM 1125 Views
Re: That link is out of date - 29/03/2010 08:22:03 PM 1254 Views
This is a battle of win/lose? - 29/03/2010 08:47:54 PM 1181 Views
Re: This is a battle of win/lose? - 29/03/2010 09:03:07 PM 1237 Views
*considers employing the Chewbacca defense* - 29/03/2010 09:28:06 PM 1209 Views
Re: *considers employing the Chewbacca defense* - 29/03/2010 09:44:58 PM 1242 Views
The final point explains the "defense" - 30/03/2010 12:24:56 AM 1092 Views
Re: The final point explains the "defense" - 30/03/2010 01:33:04 PM 1088 Views
No, no, no - 30/03/2010 06:38:41 PM 1159 Views
Re: No, no, no - 30/03/2010 07:51:34 PM 1208 Views
Still continuing, huh? - 31/03/2010 02:10:13 AM 1208 Views
Re: Still continuing, huh? - 31/03/2010 03:56:57 PM 1131 Views
Those were polls - 31/03/2010 08:46:07 PM 1149 Views
Re: Those were polls - 05/04/2010 03:22:13 PM 1096 Views
Does it gives him right to insult me? - 13/04/2011 02:10:32 PM 1099 Views
I wouldn't know. Was he speaking directly to you? - 14/04/2011 11:28:16 PM 1265 Views
He's now reviewed the third book - 26/03/2010 12:27:16 PM 1321 Views
Well, this time I must disagree with him . - 29/03/2010 07:31:40 AM 1154 Views
I don't think he was claiming that RJ was alone in doing that - 29/03/2010 07:44:07 AM 1116 Views
Hah! - 29/03/2010 06:07:28 PM 1120 Views
Well... - 29/03/2010 06:52:10 PM 1106 Views
Differing perspectives, I guess. - 29/03/2010 07:58:13 PM 1181 Views
I suppose - 29/03/2010 08:50:43 PM 1119 Views
Re: I suppose - 30/03/2010 12:18:30 AM 1277 Views
True - 30/03/2010 12:23:28 AM 1114 Views
Hey, DomA, do you know why the Shienarans randomly speak in the Old Tongue? - 30/03/2010 12:52:01 AM 1025 Views
Re: Hey, DomA, do you know why the Shienarans randomly speak in the Old Tongue? - 30/03/2010 07:45:08 AM 1159 Views
But why only them? - 30/03/2010 08:07:00 AM 1192 Views
Re: But why only them? - 30/03/2010 03:56:54 PM 1136 Views
Re: But why only them? - 30/03/2010 08:29:37 PM 1222 Views
I really liked a lot of the minor characters in The Great Hunt. - 30/03/2010 12:49:03 AM 1201 Views
I barely thought twice about those, to be honest - 30/03/2010 06:39:55 PM 1178 Views
I can't wait what he's going to try to do with TFoH and beyond - 28/03/2010 08:18:59 PM 1215 Views
Glad you enjoyed it - 29/03/2010 09:33:43 PM 1057 Views
The Shadow Rising review - 02/04/2010 09:42:53 AM 1306 Views
I wonder if this borders on trolling - 02/04/2010 02:29:58 PM 9923 Views
You want complaining? You got it... - 02/04/2010 06:38:09 PM 1212 Views
That would be a mistake - 02/04/2010 09:16:25 PM 1385 Views
Re: That would be a mistake - 02/04/2010 10:28:56 PM 1100 Views
I agree, Roberts is more and more coming across to me as just bitter - 10/04/2010 01:24:52 AM 1243 Views
Little late to this one as well - 10/04/2010 11:12:04 AM 1286 Views
Perhaps you should have led with this bit - 10/04/2010 02:52:23 PM 1340 Views
Re: I wonder if this borders on trolling - 04/04/2010 09:16:22 AM 1188 Views
What review? I couldn't find one... - 02/04/2010 08:00:45 PM 1380 Views
Re: What review? I couldn't find one... - 02/04/2010 09:22:13 PM 1348 Views
See my comment below - 02/04/2010 09:32:54 PM 1342 Views
Re: See my comment below - 03/04/2010 09:31:22 AM 1766 Views
Sorry I'm late in responding, but I've been quite busy this week - 07/04/2010 09:45:48 PM 1565 Views
Yes, I can probably agree with what you say here. - 08/04/2010 12:29:16 AM 1068 Views
- 08/04/2010 12:32:53 AM 1160 Views
I agree completely. *NM* - 02/04/2010 09:53:44 PM 744 Views
Speaking of irritation - 02/04/2010 10:50:04 PM 1328 Views
Commentary, then? - 02/04/2010 09:27:18 PM 1161 Views
Here's the thing... - 02/04/2010 10:11:18 PM 1162 Views
Re: Here's the thing... - 02/04/2010 10:31:56 PM 1039 Views
Re: Here's the thing... - 03/04/2010 01:34:05 AM 1079 Views
I somehow overlooked this last week, it seems - 10/04/2010 11:01:17 AM 1360 Views
Indeed - 02/04/2010 10:34:00 PM 1030 Views
Re: Commentary, then? - 05/04/2010 03:44:07 PM 1124 Views
for a man that bitterly complains about an author who is padding his work - 08/04/2010 09:41:07 PM 1276 Views
1400 words is long-winded? - 09/04/2010 10:07:41 AM 1330 Views
since you can sum up those 1400 words in about 25 yes that's longwinded - 09/04/2010 01:36:16 PM 1192 Views
Except I didn't really sum it up, as I left out quite a bit - 10/04/2010 11:15:42 AM 1262 Views
You are very defensive over this - 10/04/2010 01:54:15 PM 1034 Views
Nah, more of a devil's advocate than anything else - 12/04/2010 03:57:12 AM 1109 Views
Re: Nah, more of a devil's advocate than anything else - 12/04/2010 05:30:53 PM 1041 Views
You sound like a Goodkind webmaster from a couple of years ago - 12/04/2010 06:58:42 PM 1125 Views
You don't come across as a devil's advocate - 30/03/2011 03:07:32 PM 1066 Views
Well Larry I have started reading Gradsil by Adam Roberts - 07/04/2010 08:59:28 PM 1224 Views
I demand a paragraph by paragraph review, with footnotes! - 07/04/2010 09:50:39 PM 1158 Views
Re: I demand a paragraph by paragraph review, with footnotes! - 08/04/2010 01:06:20 PM 1034 Views
Which Invisible Man? - 09/04/2010 09:58:44 AM 1230 Views
Re: Which Invisible Man? - 09/04/2010 01:26:42 PM 1138 Views
I have a very different take on that book - 10/04/2010 11:17:13 AM 1109 Views
Re: I demand a paragraph by paragraph review, with footnotes! - 09/04/2010 01:45:44 PM 1184 Views
Hrmm... - 10/04/2010 11:19:01 AM 995 Views
Re: Well Larry I have started reading Gradsil by Adam Roberts - 12/04/2010 05:37:36 PM 1208 Views
He brings up some interesting points, if in an unnecessarily rude manner - 08/04/2010 12:42:25 PM 1165 Views
To be honest, I doubt most readers of the series obsess over it that much - 09/04/2010 10:05:49 AM 1193 Views
Re: To be honest, I doubt most readers of the series obsess over it that much - 09/04/2010 01:28:17 PM 1708 Views
Re: To be honest, I doubt most readers of the series obsess over it that much - 10/04/2010 11:40:22 AM 1107 Views
why are you so bothered by people being unimpressed with Roberts? - 10/04/2010 02:19:08 PM 1226 Views
I don't understand it either - 11/04/2010 12:44:25 PM 1190 Views
right? - 11/04/2010 02:13:00 PM 1200 Views
Nah - 12/04/2010 04:13:44 AM 995 Views
And in vol. 5, Roberts discovers the horrors of the circus - 09/04/2010 09:57:03 AM 1121 Views
5 reviews without saying more than "I hate the series" - 09/04/2010 01:31:13 PM 1054 Views
Basically he just states the "nothing happens"-argument... - 09/04/2010 03:26:02 PM 1040 Views
Well, what was really resolved here? - 10/04/2010 11:25:25 AM 1055 Views
Well... - 12/04/2010 05:05:20 PM 1252 Views
well exactly - 12/04/2010 05:33:11 PM 1274 Views
So very little was resolved and much was set into motion, then? - 12/04/2010 06:55:45 PM 1216 Views
Yes... - 12/04/2010 10:51:08 PM 1010 Views
Ever read Umberto Eco's How To Travel with a Salmon? - 12/04/2010 11:07:19 PM 1216 Views
I guess... - 13/04/2010 10:03:03 AM 1266 Views
Sounds like you value prolixity for the sake of prolixity, to be honest - 13/04/2010 04:41:07 PM 2422 Views
Nah... - 13/04/2010 05:29:34 PM 1024 Views
He's read and enjoyed Proust, among others - 13/04/2010 07:37:39 PM 1065 Views
Ah, well... - 13/04/2010 09:45:45 PM 1041 Views
Dismissive, much? - 13/04/2010 10:52:30 PM 1189 Views
About that bifurcation... - 14/04/2010 02:02:15 AM 1160 Views
I'm rather moderate - 14/04/2010 10:11:30 AM 1070 Views
I'm just a liberation theologist at heart - 15/04/2010 01:51:16 PM 1994 Views
So, if you don't mind... - 13/04/2010 05:51:06 AM 1147 Views
That's fine with me - 13/04/2010 06:31:41 AM 1114 Views
I'm sorry, but he's totally right. "The Circus" made me put down this series for 5 YEARS. - 09/04/2010 03:38:16 PM 1128 Views
I didn't find it quite that bad, but... - 11/04/2010 08:27:52 AM 1037 Views
LoC represented a sharp drop in quality!!? - 19/05/2010 03:27:21 PM 1155 Views
And ignores everything else... - 09/04/2010 05:10:00 PM 1216 Views
Inchoatus went offline a couple of years ago - 10/04/2010 11:42:26 AM 2111 Views
This guy is going to get what he deserves... - 09/04/2010 10:26:14 PM 1119 Views
I'm waiting with bated breath for his CoT review *NM* - 10/04/2010 01:00:59 PM 833 Views
Just wanted to point out that he is not reviewing the series. - 16/04/2010 04:04:49 PM 1142 Views
Lord of Chaos commentary - 16/04/2010 03:39:39 PM 1147 Views
He has reached - The Hump. - 16/04/2010 03:55:51 PM 1110 Views
Re: He has reached - The Hump. - 18/04/2010 08:08:59 AM 1309 Views
No no. It was Lord of Heaven! - 16/04/2010 05:51:11 PM 1064 Views
Yeah, I noticed that - 16/04/2010 11:16:26 PM 985 Views
I would love the see him review Goodkind... - 16/04/2010 11:51:07 PM 1159 Views
Finally re-read that post - 20/04/2010 09:35:45 PM 1103 Views
The magic items are mostly irrelevant... - 21/04/2010 03:37:36 AM 1120 Views
A Crown of Swords - or is it deco-porn? - 23/04/2010 08:36:17 AM 1218 Views
Re: A Crown of Swords - or is it deco-porn? - 29/04/2010 06:02:28 PM 1116 Views
I disagree - 29/04/2010 09:34:49 PM 993 Views
I agree. - 29/04/2010 09:45:29 PM 1176 Views
Took me a moment to realize with whom you were agreeing - 29/04/2010 10:19:05 PM 1085 Views
Well, I did mention the necklines get overdone... - 06/05/2010 06:17:46 PM 1422 Views
Well, there's now also the tea to comment about - 07/05/2010 11:29:03 AM 1169 Views
A bit of a stumble this week - 30/04/2010 01:53:31 PM 1217 Views
The Path of Daggers commentary - 07/05/2010 10:39:03 AM 1199 Views
You'd think a Brit would like the tea... *NM* - 11/05/2010 04:05:42 PM 728 Views
Maybe he's just a contrarian? - 11/05/2010 07:55:43 PM 1054 Views
Winter's Heart - 21/05/2010 12:46:14 PM 1204 Views
To be fair - 21/05/2010 01:56:49 PM 1304 Views
I think WH was my least favorite of the WoT novels I re-read - 21/05/2010 04:49:31 PM 1106 Views
Re: I think WH was my least favorite of the WoT novels I re-read - 25/05/2010 05:05:09 PM 1289 Views
WH was my least favorite novel in the series, and that is saying a lot. - 28/05/2010 03:15:13 PM 1203 Views
I completely agree with his KoD post. Here is my favorite quote: - 28/05/2010 03:08:31 PM 1374 Views
CoT, you mean (link to actual post included) - 28/05/2010 04:56:10 PM 1220 Views
Yep, I meant COT. *NM* - 28/05/2010 07:02:48 PM 706 Views
Knife of Dreams - 18/06/2010 09:07:27 AM 1126 Views
Re: Knife of Dreams - 19/06/2010 05:49:38 AM 1199 Views
Agree... - 19/06/2010 05:08:44 PM 1184 Views
Roberts reflects back on WoT 1-11, with answers to questions asked of him - 25/06/2010 12:51:29 PM 1197 Views
This guy should be burned at the stake - 25/06/2010 03:22:34 PM 8589 Views
Are you done making a fool out of yourself, Mark? - 26/06/2010 06:53:37 PM 1158 Views
Oh come on... - 26/06/2010 09:06:01 PM 1284 Views
Well, the burning at the stake was a bit much... - 26/06/2010 10:19:40 PM 1269 Views
Well, really! You brought the comment to his notice... - 26/06/2010 11:34:08 PM 1225 Views
And your point is...? - 27/06/2010 12:37:00 AM 1302 Views
Well... - 27/06/2010 05:38:12 AM 1247 Views
Indeed... I think it's rather clear that Larry's goal has been to cause trouble - 27/06/2010 10:57:36 AM 1386 Views
There is no "borderline" about it. - 28/03/2011 05:17:15 PM 1129 Views
Ridiculous - 27/06/2010 06:38:46 AM 1158 Views
I like his FAQ and his overall musings on its' popularity. - 29/06/2010 06:35:10 PM 1225 Views
One year later... - 27/03/2011 03:40:29 AM 1137 Views
Re: One year later... - 28/03/2011 05:03:32 PM 1071 Views
I see you subconsciously support critical takes. - 28/03/2011 11:41:48 PM 1365 Views
No I conciously support telling you and him that you are pathetic, arrogent, & jelous. *NM* - 30/03/2011 01:40:36 PM 790 Views
Jealous? - 30/03/2011 05:20:32 PM 1122 Views
I agree, I didn't even notice it was an old post, definitely did not deserve to be revived. *NM* - 30/03/2011 02:41:12 PM 694 Views
Seconded. - 30/03/2011 04:04:36 PM 1022 Views
Now I notice as well that this is a year old. You're very silly, Larry, very silly. *NM* - 30/03/2011 04:13:38 PM 737 Views
Yep! - 30/03/2011 05:16:38 PM 1053 Views
Jeez Larry, you're starting to sound like a GRRM detractor. - 31/03/2011 03:01:38 PM 1159 Views
Nah, no detractor - 01/04/2011 03:00:41 PM 1277 Views
Could a thread be locked? - 31/03/2011 07:48:26 PM 1039 Views
Re: One year later... - 01/04/2011 02:55:02 AM 1306 Views
Yep - 01/04/2011 02:57:52 PM 1216 Views

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